Can Gobbledygook be graded? 0

[Turtle]

Hello,

For the last 10 years or so, I've been told that CGC will not grade Mirage Studio's Gobbledygook #1&2, citing the reason that since they're Xeroxed, hand-stapled, and extremely limited, they are too difficult to authenticate. 

Did that policy change?  If so, what prompted the change?

I came across these in an upcoming Heritage Auction and it piqued my curiosity. 

Graded Gobbledygook #1

Graded Gobbledygook #2

Thanks!

[JonnySnyder]

Grader response: Yes, we will grade them. We actually started grading them around 2017. However, before they get submitted they must first be brought to Kevin Eastman himself and verified of its authenticity in front of a CGC representative or a CGC Signature Series witness.

[Turtle]

On ‎2‎/‎10‎/‎2020 at 11:20 AM, JonnySnyder said:

Grader response: Yes, we will grade them. We actually started grading them around 2017. However, before they get submitted they must first be brought to Kevin Eastman himself and verified of its authenticity in front of a CGC representative or a CGC Signature Series witness.

Thanks for the information.  It's good to know.

I notice that all the copies on the census are Signature Series.  To be clear, you're not requiring Kevin to sign them, correct?  He just needs to authenticate them...the signature would be optional?

Also, I realize Kevin Eastman is much more publicly accessible, but would CGC also accept verification from Peter Laird in front of a CGC representative or SS Witness?

Thanks @JonnySnyder!

[cbmitch]

So do all copies of Cerebus #1 go before Dave Sim before CGC will determine if the copy is a genuine or fake?  Then exactly what are we paying CGC for?  A label and slab but not authenticity?  Millions of copies of book have been slabbed without going in front of the creators for authenticity.  What about a TMNT #1 which has known fakes?  Does Kevin have to determine these also?  So when it is "easy" you can determine a books authenticity but when it is "hard" you cannot?  A gobbledygook is a photo copy of the original drawn art.  A fake gobbledygook therefore is a copy of a copy.  So you are telling all of us that you will authenticate million dollar books but you can't tell a copy of a copy?!?  You need Kevin Eastman to do this?  I'm pretty sure most people can tell a copy of a copy or maybe Kevin is the designated expert of spotting a copy of a copy vs a copy of an original.  Sheesh...I've heard it all now.

Here is what is on your main web page:  "Certified Guaranty Company^® (CGC^®) revolutionized the comic book marketplace when it was founded in 2000 by providing clear, objective and impartial assessments of authenticity and grade."

Edited February 16, 2020 by cbmitch

[Ryan.]

[Expaperboy]

On 2/5/2020 at 12:58 PM, Turtle said:

Hello,

For the last 10 years or so, I've been told that CGC will not grade Mirage Studio's Gobbledygook #1&2, citing the reason that since they're Xeroxed, hand-stapled, and extremely limited, they are too difficult to authenticate. 

Did that policy change?  If so, what prompted the change?

I came across these in an upcoming Heritage Auction and it piqued my curiosity. 

Graded Gobbledygook #1

Graded Gobbledygook #2

Thanks!

This is the listing where I bought my Gobbledygook from Pedigree.  It was a gamble but i rolled the dice.  This copy was the 1st graded by CGC(9.2).  It took me about 8 months to come up with the plan to get the book verified as authentic.  Ultimately setting up a meeting with Kevin Eastman and his bride at the 2017 SDCC after hours.  2 weeks before the event I finally convinced CGC execs to attend the meeting.  Kevin explained there were 5 points of difference to confirm a Gobbledygook #1 and #2 were authentic.  BTW, they were both printed at the same time, approximately 50 copies of each.  The meeting went well and CGC took my comic back to Florida to be verified.  It took about 4 months for that to happen as the President of CGC had doubts.  Luckily Kevin had also drawn a image for my son and I declaring my find as real.  I had to fedex the image to CGC to complete the process.  The staff of CGC was great to work with and were true professionals.  The process was exhilarating for sure.  3 months later I got a call from Kevin he had 1 last copy of #2 and we did the process all over again.  That's how the 1st copy of Gobbledygook #2(9.0) got graded.  I'll post images at some point but I wanted to get the story out.

Gobbledygook #1 CGC NM 9.4 White

Sold:

Grade

NM 9.4

Page Quality

White

Pedigree

none

CGC Serial Number

 

Census Rank

0

Publish Date

1984

Category

Mirage Studios

Description

BEST EXISTING COPY!! This is a true NM example of this highly sought after book. Features a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles appearance on the full page back cover ad!! First ever mention of the TMNT. VERY RARE in any grade as this book was limited to just approximately 50 copies! Easily the nicest copy you will ever see and a strict NM with snow white pages. CGC does not certify Gobbledygook #1 and #2. The best and nicest looking copies from auctions past have only been as high as VF/NM. This almost perfect one blows any of those away. We have seen 2 other Gobbledygook #1's and one was a VF+ while the other was a VF/NM. That VF/NM copy sold at auction in 2011 for over $11,000! This is an unread, gorgeous copy of this landmark issue that also features the first appearance of Fugitoid. No TMNT collection is complete without Gobbledygook #1 and #2. We are erring on the side of caution in calling this blazer a NM as many dealers would call it a NM+. It has 2 teeny, tiny faint nicks on the spine (seen only from the front cover) and one tiny stress line (seen only from the front cover) and nothing else!! Take a nice, long look at this incredible copy as you will NEVER see another one like it again.

[cbmitch]

Check out these going in for grading.  The gold sigs really pop on the black and white cover

https://www.instagram.com/p/CG-vcM2Blty/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

 

Edited October 31, 2020 by cbmitch
misspelled words

[WESTCOASTOG]

Hello,i found both of these in a folder at an estate sale and the estate was the estate of dale luciano who was an author,cartoon columnist and worked for the comics journal in the 80s. In the box where i found these there were many folders with different cartoonist sample comics and letters. i am 100 percent these are original and authentic and i am really confused on ho to get them graded with cgc. Do i need to have kevin eastmasn authenticate them before i send them t cgc? thank you for any helpful info