Popular Post Bookery Posted February 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2020 (edited) I think it's appropriate to promote one's new publication here (if not, the Mods can move it). The new Bookery Guide to Pulps has just been released (first one in 15 years!). This is published by Ivy Press and can be ordered through Heritage Auctions here (https://www.ha.com/information/bookery-guide-to-pulps-related-magazines.s?type=surl-bookery). Heritage did a great job on the look and internal design, much improved over previous editions. I also made some improvements to the layout of the listings, which should make it easier to locate specific issues, and there are new paragraphs describing most of the pulp titles. This is the culmination of about 30 years of work, so for better or worse, it's here (finally). Edited May 13, 2020 by Bookery 1950's war comics, porcupine48, GACollectibles and 32 others 31 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFury Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Great news, Tim! Congratulations on the new edition. I just ordered a copy. Todd Larryw7 and Bookery 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 +1 How long until Heritage “convinces” CGC to slab pulps??? misterrmystery, lpsunburst and RedFury 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bookery Posted February 7, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 7, 2020 12 minutes ago, Robot Man said: +1 How long until Heritage “convinces” CGC to slab pulps??? While I'm not a huge slab-person generally (though see a definite use when it comes to high-grades, restoration checks, etc.), in some ways I can see slabs being even more useful for pulps than comics. Almost all early pulp content is public domain (likely available at Project Gutenberg and elsewhere), and the classics (Burroughs, Chandler, Hammett, Bradbury, Heinlein, etc., etc.) are all easily available in multiple inexpensive reprints. The Shadow, Doc, and other hero pulps have had extensive reprints. So slabbing pulps isn't really preventing the ability to access the reading material. But pulps are so fragile, that maybe slabbing them is the one way to keep them intact for posterity. Plus, with there being a couple of hundred or so issues so rare they probably exist in fewer than 2-dozen copies, it might be nice to make sure they stay preserved. But the logistics for CGC might prove to be a nightmare. Pulps come in so many varied sizes and thicknesses it would be difficult to accommodate them all. Plus you need to have an expert on hand that knows about overhang, and counting 200 pages or more to make sure they are complete could be a major hassle. And then, there are fewer pulps out there than comics (by far). Comics are still being printed, and people send new issues to be graded every day. There are a finite number of extant pulps, and it's possible there aren't enough copies to merit the initial overhead of designing slabs, hiring experts, etc. But... they slab carded toys, baseballs, and other things... so it's not impossible to design slabs for them... just maybe not cost-effective? batman_fan, PopKulture, porcupine48 and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Really excited for this Tim. Thanks for letting us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Robot Man said: +1 How long until Heritage “convinces” CGC to slab pulps??? A birdie said "very soon". Action252Kid, RedFury and PopKulture 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopKulture Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 31 minutes ago, MrBedrock said: A birdie said "very soon". That would be sad news for many of us that have enjoyed pulps for decades. The influx of speculative money will no doubt chase many of the old-timers out of the hobby. Only my heirs will cheer such news. jimjum12 and waaaghboss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OtherEric Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Will be picking this up once I get paid this weekend. Nice choice on the cover art, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookery Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, OtherEric said: Will be picking this up once I get paid this weekend. Nice choice on the cover art, by the way. The folks at Heritage designed the cover. I believe they had the original art in their auction at one point. OtherEric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopKulture Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 I'm psyched to get my copy as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfing Alien Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, PopKulture said: That would be sad news for many of us that have enjoyed pulps for decades. The influx of speculative money will no doubt chase many of the old-timers out of the hobby. Only my heirs will cheer such news. Or for us bottom feeders who just started again I guess I gotta accelerate my buying while I still can! Great news about the book though, I'll be getting one sagii and PopKulture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricksneatstuff Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Ordered a few hours ago. Can't wait to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Is Heritage the only place you can buy one? There must be other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookery Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 6 hours ago, Randall Dowling said: Is Heritage the only place you can buy one? There must be other options. Not that I'm aware of. I don't know if they have plans to eventually sub-distribute through other venues or not. From what I understand, they will be setting up at the Windy Show Pulp Show and should have copies available there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 23 hours ago, Bookery said: I think it's appropriate to promote one's new publication here (if not, the Mods can move it). The new Bookery Guide to Pulps has just been released (first one in 15 years!). This is published by Ivy Press and can be ordered through Heritage Auctions here (https://www.ha.com/information/bookery-guide-to-pulps-related-magazines.s?type=surl-bookery). Heritage did a great job on the look and internal design, much improved over previous editions. I also made some improvements to the layout of the listings, which should make it easier to locate specific issues, and there are new paragraphs describing most of the pulp titles. This is the culmination of about 30 years of work, so for better or worse, it's here (finally). Thank you for your great service to the collecting community. Pulps have appeared side by side with comics at the early conventions and there always was a connection. It is great to get the new guide, I will be purchasing one as well. Cong... Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detective35 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 (edited) The pulps that do not have overhangs certaily could be a slabbed, But the majority of them have large overhangs either on the bottom or the top, or sides. Right now you can’t even slab Comics if they have a bad cut, but every pulp is got a different cut with different size overhangs either the top or the bottom of the right sides. People that I know nothing about pulps and (just slapping or comics) say it can be done, but putting them in a slab is going to destroy these overhangs no matter what you do. You would have to custom make a slab for each different size overhang and custom make them why did the overhang is on the top the right side left side where ever it is a large I have to custom make a slab for each different size overhang and custom make them whether the overhang is on the top the right side left side wherever it is, plus overhang issues on the back covers as well No chance I would put my high-grade pulps with overhangs in a slab. Edited February 8, 2020 by detective35DF PopKulture and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 26 minutes ago, detective35 said: The pulps that do not have overhangs certaily could be a slabbed, But the majority of them have large overhangs either on the bottom or the top, or sides. Right now you can’t even slab Comics if they have a bad cut, but every pulp is got a different cut with different size overhangs either the top or the bottom of the right sides. People that I know nothing about pulps and (just slapping or comics) say it can be done, but putting them in a slab is going to destroy these overhangs no matter what you do. You would have to custom make a slab for each different size overhang and custom make them why did the overhang is on the top the right side left side where ever it is a large I have to custom make a slab for each different size overhang and custom make them whether the overhang is on the top the right side left side wherever it is, plus overhang issues on the back covers as well No chance I would put my high-grade pulps with overhangs in a slab. The only way I could see it happening is if they made a slab that had a concave center, the opposite of the creep engine slabs, which would hold the book in place with pressure. However, given how brittle pulps can be I don't think that would be feasible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookery Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 1 hour ago, detective35 said: The pulps that do not have overhangs certaily could be a slabbed, But the majority of them have large overhangs either on the bottom or the top, or sides. Right now you can’t even slab Comics if they have a bad cut, but every pulp is got a different cut with different size overhangs either the top or the bottom of the right sides. People that I know nothing about pulps and (just slapping or comics) say it can be done, but putting them in a slab is going to destroy these overhangs no matter what you do. You would have to custom make a slab for each different size overhang and custom make them why did the overhang is on the top the right side left side where ever it is a large I have to custom make a slab for each different size overhang and custom make them whether the overhang is on the top the right side left side wherever it is, plus overhang issues on the back covers as well No chance I would put my high-grade pulps with overhangs in a slab. The thing is, the majority of pulps being sold are already in mylar bags, and thus the overhangs are already being squeezed. In theory, bagged pulps are supposed to be stored flat... but few do it, and it's not generally feasible to take them to shows and sell them that way. The pulps only have overhangs because the publishers were too cheap to pay for the trimming. But over the long haul, I don't see the majority of these overhangs being preserved. Collectors will someday just have to deal with either cleanly trimmed pulps, or ones with varying degrees of overhang damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detective35 Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 Sorry But I disagree. If pulps are stored in golden age backing boards and super-gold mylite 2’s, then with further protection use magazine backing boards in a magazine Mylar, and in conjunction with storing them in proper climate, the overhangs will stay full and preserved. Forcing them into a slab with an inner and outer chamber....well you will see (especially because many store slabs upright) Certainly storing the books flat will be the easiest on overhangs. You can display them for a short period of time on an upright angle in a double bag system and they should be OK. 99% of the 500+ high grade pulps in my collection have full overhangs, and will remain like that for as long as they are stored properly. in the past overhangs were destroyed as people either stored them upright with no bags or in those cheap regular mylites or polypropylene bags with backing boards the size of the books, will certainly destroy the overhangs. Dwight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookery Posted February 8, 2020 Author Share Posted February 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, detective35 said: Sorry But I disagree. If pulps are stored in golden age backing boards and super-gold mylite 2’s, then with further protection use magazine backing boards in a magazine Mylar, and in conjunction with storing them in proper climate, the overhangs will stay full and preserved. Forcing them into a slab with an inner and outer chamber....well you will see (especially because many store slabs upright) Certainly storing the books flat will be the easiest on overhangs. You can display them for a short period of time on an upright angle in a double bag system and they should be OK. 99% of the 500+ high grade pulps in my collection have full overhangs, and will remain like that for as long as they are stored properly. in the past overhangs were destroyed as people either stored them upright with no bags or in those cheap regular mylites or polypropylene bags with backing boards the size of the books, will certainly destroy the overhangs. Dwight Maybe so. At any rate, I suspect it's all moot. For reasons already cited, I don't see pulps being slabbed. Not everything can be slabbed-- they aren't going to do hardback books either. In fact, I can foresee vintage paperbacks being slabbed before pulps ever are (and it's even unlikely for them). So interesting from a speculation standpoint, but probably not a real concern. BTW -- nice looking ad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
