Greatest American comic book artists of all time. 2 2

[aardvark88]

2 hours ago, Bax77 said:

Humberto Ramos top five easy.

I would add Don Heck as part of top 10 Worst USA comic artists.

Add Jae Lee as part of top 50 Best USA comic artists.

[Ken Aldred]

3 hours ago, aardvark88 said:

I would add Don Heck as part of top 10 Worst USA comic artists.

Always going to be a polarising choice as some of his Iron Man / TOS artwork is excellent.

Edited April 24, 2020 by Ken Aldred

[jjonahjameson11]

On 4/22/2020 at 11:02 PM, Electricmastro said:

Who do you think are some of the greatest American comic book artists of all time? My choices:

Jack Kirby
Will Eisner
Neal Adams
Carl Barks
Harvey Kurtzman
Wally Wood
Frank Frazetta
Steve Ditko
Bernard Krigstein
Lou Fine
Alex Toth
Al Williamson
Gil Kane
Joe Kubert
Barry Windsor-Smith
John Romita Sr.
Jim Steranko
John Buscema
Jack Cole
Reed Crandall
Johnny Craig
Frank Miller
Mac Raboy
Basil Wolverton
Gene Colan
Jack Davis
John Severin
George Perez
Dave Stevens
Brian Bolland
Michael Kaluta
Gray Morrow
Mort Meskin
Mike Mignola
George Evans
Russ Heath
Curt Swan
Graham Ingels
Bill Sienkiewicz
P. Craig Russell
Arthur Adams
John Stanley
Syd Shores
Alex Schomburg
Joe Shuster
Everett Raymond Kinstler
Paul Smith
Joe Maneely
Walter Simonson
Alex Ross
Jim Lee
John Romita Jr.
Jerry Robinson
Mike Ploog
Jack Burnley
Paul Gulacy
Al McWilliams
Bernard Baily
Jackson Guice
Angelo Torres
Bernie Wrightson
Charles Vess
Steve Rude
Murphy Anderson
Carmine Infantino
Mark Schultz
Russ Manning
Doug Wildey
John Byrne
Matt Baker
L. B. Cole
Bill Elder
Bob Kane
Joe Orlando
Bill Everett

I would add:

Marshall Rogers.  When I think of the definitive Batman, I think of his incredible work in ‘Tec.  His work on Mister Miracle was also excellent and a welcomed upgrade from Kirby’s work on the title.

Dale Keown is missing from the list- best Hulk artist ever!

Mike Grell’s work on Warlord and Jon Sable is far superior to many of the artists on the OP’s list and he should be included.

Frank Brunner is another great artist who should be included on the list

Don Rosa, the heir apparent to Carl Barks, wrote and illustrated some excellent Ducks stories in his own right, but he also wrote and illustrated the greatest origin story of all time: The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck.  If you haven’t read it yet, do yourself a favour and pick up a copy.  You’ll be glad you did. It’s a timeless tale for kids of all ages.  

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by jjonahjameson11

[kav]

21 hours ago, aardvark88 said:

Do tell. Worst USA comic artist:

1. Frank Robbins

2. Rob Liefeld ?

3. Sal Buscema

4. JR Jr.

5. ...HUMBERTO RAMOS

 

[kav]

8 hours ago, Bax77 said:

Humberto Ramos top five easy.

just saw this 

[catman76]

Take Bob Kane off that list. The guy just signed his name to other people's work.

D-ick Sprang

Sheldon Moldoff

Basil Wolverton

H.G. Peter

Robert Crumb

Kim Deitch

Jim Woodring

Charles Burns

Al Feldstein

Gil Fox

Owen Fitzgerald

Boody Rogers

Dan DeCarlo

Harry Lucey

Chester Gould

Henry Boltinoff

Howie Post

Spain Rodriguez

Robert Williams

Chris Ware

Dave Cooper

Dan Clowes

 

Edited April 24, 2020 by catman76
I can't even write the name D-ick on here? Really? Pathetic.

[kav]

5 minutes ago, catman76 said:

Take Bob Kane off that list. The guy just signed his name to other people's work.

D-ick Sprang

Sheldon Moldoff

Basil Wolverton

H.G. Peter

Robert Crumb

Kim Deitch

Jim Woodring

Charles Burns

Al Feldstein

Gil Fox

Owen Fitzgerald

Boody Rogers

Dan DeCarlo

Harry Lucey

Chester Gould

Henry Boltinoff

Howie Post

Spain Rodriguez

Robert Williams

Chris Ware

Dave Cooper

Dan Clowes

 

Thx for the Dave Cooper.  genius most here never heard of.  SPINNING FLAMING BUDDHA WITH ZYCROBE ACTION!!!

[James J Johnson]

Frank R. Paul

A major influence for many that followed

 

[oakman29]

On 4/23/2020 at 5:43 PM, aardvark88 said:

Do tell. Worst USA comic artist:

1. Frank Robbins

2. Rob Liefeld ?

3. Sal Buscema

4. JR Jr.

5. ...

Now that's a list I could get on board with. 

The worst. Leifeld #1

[kav]

41 minutes ago, oakman29 said:

Now that's a list I could get on board with. 

The worst. Leifeld #1

Liefeld draws like his hand got stung by swarm of bees.  And this makes him draw everyone like their entire body stung by bee swarm and puffed up.

Edited April 25, 2020 by kav

[Electricmastro]

5 hours ago, catman76 said:

Basil Wolverton

 

Indeed, and Basil Wolverton wasn’t just good with drawing the grotesque, but also drawing large-scale and profound art, as seen with his Spacehawk work from the early 40s:

[jjonahjameson11]

On 4/23/2020 at 8:43 PM, aardvark88 said:

Do tell. Worst USA comic artist:

1. Frank Robbins

2. Rob Liefeld ?

3. Sal Buscema

4. JR Jr.

5. ...

I would remove JR Jr from the list and add the following:

1. Don Heck

2. Erik Larsen

3. Humberto Ramos

4. Paul Pope

5. Vince Colletta

[Buzzetta]

I think it is in the eye of the beholder.  

Yes we can agree that it is possible to determine 'bad art' in the case of Liefeld's early depictions of feet. 

But to say that you hate Humberto Ramos?  I may not like Ramos' style on certain characters but he draws well for the style that he is using.  I personally like Wally Wood, Romita Sr and a few others more than Kirby's art.  I can appreciate Kirby's art but if I had the ability to pick up a classic Kirby cover or a classic Wood EC cover, I would buy the Kirby cover so I could immediately sell it and buy the Wood Cover and a few other things. 

Of the modern artists though?  I really dig Jim Lee's stuff. in my opinion. Lee's take on Batman was possibly the best take on the character, I've seen in years. 

[jjonahjameson11]

3 hours ago, Buzzetta said:

I think it is in the eye of the beholder.  

Yes we can agree that it is possible to determine 'bad art' in the case of Liefeld's early depictions of feet. 

But to say that you hate Humberto Ramos?  I may not like Ramos' style on certain characters but he draws well for the style that he is using.  I personally like Wally Wood, Romita Sr and a few others more than Kirby's art.  I can appreciate Kirby's art but if I had the ability to pick up a classic Kirby cover or a classic Wood EC cover, I would buy the Kirby cover so I could immediately sell it and buy the Wood Cover and a few other things. 

Of the modern artists though?  I really dig Jim Lee's stuff. in my opinion. Lee's take on Batman was possibly the best take on the character, I've seen in years. 

Nobody said ‘hate’...they said worst.

[Buzzetta]

18 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Nobody said ‘hate’...they said worst.

Fair enough... not in this thread. 

But I have heard it said numerous times across various discussions of Ramos. 

[nriccijr]

Eastman & Laird?

[Buzzetta]

1 hour ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Nobody said ‘hate’...they said worst.

 

9 minutes ago, Bax77 said:

I hate him. If I had unlimited funds I would offer him lots of money to never draw a DC or Marvel character again. 

...and there we have it.  

apologies to @jjonahjameson11

[jjonahjameson11]

Just now, Buzzetta said:

 

...and there we have it.  

apologies to @jjonahjameson11

Yup, there’s always one bad apple in the bunch. Sigh...

[Ken Aldred]

Just now, Bax77 said:

Ramos makes Frank Robbins look like Frank Frazetta.

To incite still further, was Robbins really so bad when you compare him to a certain ‘creator’ mentioned in the all-time best list; the infinitely overrated Bob Kane? 
 

[Whizzer]

Some artists are suited more to one genre than another. The example that springs to mind is Joe Kubert. On war or jungle books he is a master. On super-hero books he would be in my don't like list.