• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

[CLOSED] All 5 copies of Seduction of the Innocent sold, BUT SOTI comics, plus Baker, Jughead as Elvis STILL AVAILABLE!
10 10

74 posts in this topic

True Love Problems and Advice Illustrated #11.  CGC 7.5, cream to off-white pages.

Not noted on the label, but this is one's mentioned in SOTI.  No GPA sales in the last 15 years.  Not sure of the timeline, but I think that one GPA sale was back before I discovered and reported that this is a SOTI book.

$225

IMG_5167.thumb.jpg.8a6a23ee758ed378d7066317a5252e96.jpg

 

IMG_5169.thumb.jpg.5a8aab36e039ebef54a30f29a3897ae3.jpg

IMG_5170.thumb.jpg.47e6543ec26d5c8215bf1df5d6dce343.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Including my standard eBay writeup this time.  

About this copy of Seduction of the Innocent:

First edition, first print, second state (meaning the bibliography has been removed), with dust jacket.  I have taken numerous pictures and provided a thorough description, but I also welcome your questions if you’d like to know something more specific.

Book:  Unmarked except for pencil writing on front free end paper "April 19-54" and "50".  Slight bleaching of the reds inside FC and inside BC.  Some tan spots on the title page (I have no idea what this discoloration is from.  See photos.) Some white spots on the black tape along the spine and FC/BC.  Spine is snug, but there is a break along rear hinge (see photo).   No bibliography.  All typical pages present, including 16 pages of illustrations.  

Dust jacket:   Fading to red text on spine.  Some paper loss at top of spine and edges.

 $200  SOLD Comical_Situations

About Seduction of the Innocent, in general:

This is the book that nearly killed the American comic book industry in the 1950’s.  It’s hard to overstate the impact this book had on the comic book industry.  Dr. Fredric Wertham was a respected psychiatrist at the time, and he operated a mental hygiene clinic for children.  In 1948, he first published his findings that determined comic books were harmful to kids.  He embarked on a years-long crusade to stop the pernicious influence of comic books.  There were comic book burnings in various American cities, and a number of cities banned comic books.  The anti-comics hysteria reached its apex with the 1954 publication of Seduction of the Innocent, and a United States Senate investigation into the dangers of comic books.  Parents were genuinely afraid that comic books would rot their little kiddies’ minds, and within a couple years the end result was that dozens of publishers were forced out of business, talented writers and artists were unable to find work, the publishing of horror comics was effectively ended, and EC comics had stopped publishing everything but Mad Magazine.  While Wertham’s goal was to keep comics out of the hands of young children, one effect of the anti-comics hysteria that he whipped up was the 1954 creation of the Comics Code Authority. It was this organization that for years thoroughly neutered comic book content, ensuring that comics would be seen by the American public as strictly as kids’ fare.

There are many comic books and comic-like books that have a profound influence on the comic book industry: Action Comics #1, Amazing Fantasy #15, A Contract with God, and the list goes on.  However, it would be easy to make the case that SOTI has had a more dramatic impact on the American comic book industry than any non-comic book in history.

Before you buy a copy of SOTI, from me or from anybody, be sure you know what you are getting.

The first few editions of SOTI were:

1)      First Edition, First Print, First State (Rinehart, 1954). Published with a dust jacket.  Originally, SOTI was printed with a bibliography leaf (pp. 399-400). A few copies of the book were released with this leaf intact. A first printing is distinguishable by the R colophon on the publication page.

2)      First Edition, First Print, Second State (Rinehart, 1954).  Published with a dust jacket.  The book’s publisher demanded that the bibliography leaf be excised, fearing lawsuits from comic book publishers.  Most copies of the first print have no bibliography leaf; if you inspect one of these carefully, you can see a stub where pp. 399-400 should be.

3)      First Edition, Second Print (Rinehart, 1954 or 1955).  Published with a dust jacket.  The first printing of SOTI sold out, so a second printing was created.  The bibliography page was excised from all copies of the second printing.  A second printing has two distinguishing characteristics: the R colophon is absent from the publication page, and the dust jacket reads “SECOND PRINTING” at the top left of the dust jacket’s front flap.

4)      First UK printing (Museum Press, 1955).  Published with a dust jacket, and printed without a bibliography.

5)      Second US edition (Kennikat Press, 1972).  Published without a dust jacket.  This is the first edition that had the bibliography page intentionally included by the publisher.

6)      Later editions (Amereon Ltd./Main Road Books). There are numerous later editions of SOTI, each claiming to be part of a limited print run of 220 copies.  Don’t be fooled by this claim.  While it’s possible that each printing is actually only 220 copies, the printings are extremely numerous.  Every time the publisher sells out, they seem to print another “limited” batch of 220.  That seems like “unlimited” to me. 

IMG_5174.thumb.jpg.98fc17b18284624172a397a96226ac74.jpg

IMG_5175.thumb.jpg.3fbf7456162f671b52961880aea270a0.jpg

IMG_5177.thumb.jpg.3897910eb7715721f9f16477db392579.jpg

IMG_5178.thumb.jpg.4d725b5e699a5fb7c1309a65a4d73397.jpg

IMG_5179.thumb.jpg.881088645a61c1b61d55432b65e6d3fc.jpg

IMG_5180.thumb.jpg.c84fdab35711c51da638f8fba6fc1ce9.jpg

IMG_5181.thumb.jpg.24c1b8008d20822d2c380b4e49a3b4ae.jpg

IMG_5183.thumb.jpg.87e8b3727e73182588f0f78a1b85c960.jpg

IMG_5184.thumb.jpg.f07840215a0e5763d6b8d609a461785c.jpg

 

 

 

Edited by SOTIcollector
Oops! Forgot to add the price!
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, SOTIcollector said:

  Am Including my standard eBay writeup this time.  

About this copy of Seduction of the Innocent:

First edition, first print, second state (meaning the bibliography has been removed), with dust jacket.  I have taken numerous pictures and provided a thorough description, but I also welcome your questions if you’d like to know something more specific.

Book:  Unmarked except for pencil writing on front free end paper "April 19-54" and "50".  Slight bleaching of the reds inside FC and inside BC.  Some tan spots on the title page (I have no idea what this discoloration is from.  See photos.) Some white spots on the black tape along the spine and FC/BC.  Spine is snug, but there is a break along rear hinge (see photo).   No bibliography.  All typical pages present, including 16 pages of illustrations.  

Dust jacket:   Fading to red text on spine.  Some paper loss at top of spine and edges.

 $200

About Seduction of the Innocent, in general:

This is the book that nearly killed the American comic book industry in the 1950’s.  It’s hard to overstate the impact this book had on the comic book industry.  Dr. Fredric Wertham was a respected psychiatrist at the time, and he operated a mental hygiene clinic for children.  In 1948, he first published his findings that determined comic books were harmful to kids.  He embarked on a years-long crusade to stop the pernicious influence of comic books.  There were comic book burnings in various American cities, and a number of cities banned comic books.  The anti-comics hysteria reached its apex with the 1954 publication of Seduction of the Innocent, and a United States Senate investigation into the dangers of comic books.  Parents were genuinely afraid that comic books would rot their little kiddies’ minds, and within a couple years the end result was that dozens of publishers were forced out of business, talented writers and artists were unable to find work, the publishing of horror comics was effectively ended, and EC comics had stopped publishing everything but Mad Magazine.  While Wertham’s goal was to keep comics out of the hands of young children, one effect of the anti-comics hysteria that he whipped up was the 1954 creation of the Comics Code Authority. It was this organization that for years thoroughly neutered comic book content, ensuring that comics would be seen by the American public as strictly as kids’ fare.

There are many comic books and comic-like books that have a profound influence on the comic book industry: Action Comics #1, Amazing Fantasy #15, A Contract with God, and the list goes on.  However, it would be easy to make the case that SOTI has had a more dramatic impact on the American comic book industry than any non-comic book in history.

Before you buy a copy of SOTI, from me or from anybody, be sure you know what you are getting.

The first few editions of SOTI were:

1)      First Edition, First Print, First State (Rinehart, 1954). Published with a dust jacket.  Originally, SOTI was printed with a bibliography leaf (pp. 399-400). A few copies of the book were released with this leaf intact. A first printing is distinguishable by the R colophon on the publication page.

2)      First Edition, First Print, Second State (Rinehart, 1954).  Published with a dust jacket.  The book’s publisher demanded that the bibliography leaf be excised, fearing lawsuits from comic book publishers.  Most copies of the first print have no bibliography leaf; if you inspect one of these carefully, you can see a stub where pp. 399-400 should be.

3)      First Edition, Second Print (Rinehart, 1954 or 1955).  Published with a dust jacket.  The first printing of SOTI sold out, so a second printing was created.  The bibliography page was excised from all copies of the second printing.  A second printing has two distinguishing characteristics: the R colophon is absent from the publication page, and the dust jacket reads “SECOND PRINTING” at the top left of the dust jacket’s front flap.

4)      First UK printing (Museum Press, 1955).  Published with a dust jacket, and printed without a bibliography.

5)      Second US edition (Kennikat Press, 1972).  Published without a dust jacket.  This is the first edition that had the bibliography page intentionally included by the publisher.

6)      Later editions (Amereon Ltd./Main Road Books). There are numerous later editions of SOTI, each claiming to be part of a limited print run of 220 copies.  Don’t be fooled by this claim.  While it’s possible that each printing is actually only 220 copies, the printings are extremely numerous.  Every time the publisher sells out, they seem to print another “limited” batch of 220.  That seems like “unlimited” to me. 

IMG_5174.thumb.jpg.98fc17b18284624172a397a96226ac74.jpg

IMG_5175.thumb.jpg.3fbf7456162f671b52961880aea270a0.jpg

IMG_5177.thumb.jpg.3897910eb7715721f9f16477db392579.jpg

IMG_5178.thumb.jpg.4d725b5e699a5fb7c1309a65a4d73397.jpg

IMG_5179.thumb.jpg.881088645a61c1b61d55432b65e6d3fc.jpg

IMG_5180.thumb.jpg.c84fdab35711c51da638f8fba6fc1ce9.jpg

IMG_5181.thumb.jpg.24c1b8008d20822d2c380b4e49a3b4ae.jpg

IMG_5183.thumb.jpg.87e8b3727e73182588f0f78a1b85c960.jpg

IMG_5184.thumb.jpg.f07840215a0e5763d6b8d609a461785c.jpg

 

 

 

first print but I don't see the R Colophon?  Am I missing it?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Here's a cool one.  How a Marvel book from about 1950 that you've never seen?   Not a SOTI book, but a really cool rarity.

As I can tell, there are no CGC'd copies and it's not listed in Overstreet.  I've never seen one for sale online.  It LOOKS like an uncut version of the Wisco/Klarer comics, featuring Marvel characters.  But this one was actually intended to be distributed as it is, as you can tell from the back cover.

Interesting to see the political incorrectness.  "Here are some unfriendly Indians.  Let's pretend to murder them.  The penalty for being deemed unfriendly:  genocide."

Yes, it's in rough shape.  But just try finding another.

$225

 IMG_5152.thumb.jpg.f34dabaaefd03aedfa6a0eb271205743.jpg

IMG_5153.thumb.jpg.d89cc6e18b9fb13935f4e897e5406ca1.jpg

IMG_5154.thumb.jpg.cd261799a44900685a088680a0763e05.jpg

IMG_5155.thumb.jpg.3895c3caed9273231315cacd59809923.jpg

IMG_5156.thumb.jpg.8c258d18f9bc6b4eda6cd1548185cce1.jpg

 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Next... I was going to post a raw VG Dagar #19. Then I saw that JBPEZ has a thread with a beautiful CGC 5.0 copy at a price I can't beat.  So instead, I'll just post, for your entertainment, some interior pictures from that book.  Enjoy!

IMG_5214.thumb.jpg.eaa3639d8888ca64c5e49be1a6476116.jpg

IMG_5215.thumb.jpg.40856776b3f790803eee037c1ee9fd5a.jpg

IMG_5216.thumb.jpg.527f07d7d90137e91e79ec5321073dbf.jpg

This image looks like it may have been inspired by the classic cover to Dagar #14.

IMG_5217.thumb.jpg.c8a1bdc506bdd9a306f6fa1fd229d957.jpg

IMG_5218.thumb.jpg.a5432d114029c3c37796ebcc3a21a956.jpg

IMG_5219.thumb.jpg.e92cc1fdffbd258baeaa78e384e58665.jpg

 

IMG_5220.thumb.jpg.ada35533303b59e6d2f027db5d351be9.jpg

IMG_5221.thumb.jpg.87b625e01ee06a1f09d61857dc332939.jpg

IMG_5223.thumb.jpg.8c1cf9b94b16538bbcaf112364e1e6d0.jpg

IMG_5224.thumb.jpg.b5ff844dffcb6de119a6dfdedf9b413b.jpg

IMG_5225.thumb.jpg.c4b07d2fe25c52ac13cc1fa2782a88a1.jpg

IMG_5226.thumb.jpg.c809ec8299cc44aaeaf1c76942a68c83.jpg

IMG_5227.thumb.jpg.9a20cb5445b43baae2e5494c1d8466b6.jpg

 

 

IMG_5222.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 hours ago, JollyComics said:
23 hours ago, bounty_coder said:

I’m just glad it had nothing to do with the clown. :insane:

Me?

Yes - it is the @ssclown

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, SOTIcollector said:

Including my standard eBay writeup this time.  

About this copy of Seduction of the Innocent:

First edition, first print, second state (meaning the bibliography has been removed), with dust jacket.  I have taken numerous pictures and provided a thorough description, but I also welcome your questions if you’d like to know something more specific.

Book:  Unmarked except for pencil writing on front free end paper "April 19-54" and "50".  Slight bleaching of the reds inside FC and inside BC.  Some tan spots on the title page (I have no idea what this discoloration is from.  See photos.) Some white spots on the black tape along the spine and FC/BC.  Spine is snug, but there is a break along rear hinge (see photo).   No bibliography.  All typical pages present, including 16 pages of illustrations.  

Dust jacket:   Fading to red text on spine.  Some paper loss at top of spine and edges.

 $200

About Seduction of the Innocent, in general:

This is the book that nearly killed the American comic book industry in the 1950’s.  It’s hard to overstate the impact this book had on the comic book industry.  Dr. Fredric Wertham was a respected psychiatrist at the time, and he operated a mental hygiene clinic for children.  In 1948, he first published his findings that determined comic books were harmful to kids.  He embarked on a years-long crusade to stop the pernicious influence of comic books.  There were comic book burnings in various American cities, and a number of cities banned comic books.  The anti-comics hysteria reached its apex with the 1954 publication of Seduction of the Innocent, and a United States Senate investigation into the dangers of comic books.  Parents were genuinely afraid that comic books would rot their little kiddies’ minds, and within a couple years the end result was that dozens of publishers were forced out of business, talented writers and artists were unable to find work, the publishing of horror comics was effectively ended, and EC comics had stopped publishing everything but Mad Magazine.  While Wertham’s goal was to keep comics out of the hands of young children, one effect of the anti-comics hysteria that he whipped up was the 1954 creation of the Comics Code Authority. It was this organization that for years thoroughly neutered comic book content, ensuring that comics would be seen by the American public as strictly as kids’ fare.

There are many comic books and comic-like books that have a profound influence on the comic book industry: Action Comics #1, Amazing Fantasy #15, A Contract with God, and the list goes on.  However, it would be easy to make the case that SOTI has had a more dramatic impact on the American comic book industry than any non-comic book in history.

Before you buy a copy of SOTI, from me or from anybody, be sure you know what you are getting.

The first few editions of SOTI were:

1)      First Edition, First Print, First State (Rinehart, 1954). Published with a dust jacket.  Originally, SOTI was printed with a bibliography leaf (pp. 399-400). A few copies of the book were released with this leaf intact. A first printing is distinguishable by the R colophon on the publication page.

2)      First Edition, First Print, Second State (Rinehart, 1954).  Published with a dust jacket.  The book’s publisher demanded that the bibliography leaf be excised, fearing lawsuits from comic book publishers.  Most copies of the first print have no bibliography leaf; if you inspect one of these carefully, you can see a stub where pp. 399-400 should be.

3)      First Edition, Second Print (Rinehart, 1954 or 1955).  Published with a dust jacket.  The first printing of SOTI sold out, so a second printing was created.  The bibliography page was excised from all copies of the second printing.  A second printing has two distinguishing characteristics: the R colophon is absent from the publication page, and the dust jacket reads “SECOND PRINTING” at the top left of the dust jacket’s front flap.

4)      First UK printing (Museum Press, 1955).  Published with a dust jacket, and printed without a bibliography.

5)      Second US edition (Kennikat Press, 1972).  Published without a dust jacket.  This is the first edition that had the bibliography page intentionally included by the publisher.

6)      Later editions (Amereon Ltd./Main Road Books). There are numerous later editions of SOTI, each claiming to be part of a limited print run of 220 copies.  Don’t be fooled by this claim.  While it’s possible that each printing is actually only 220 copies, the printings are extremely numerous.  Every time the publisher sells out, they seem to print another “limited” batch of 220.  That seems like “unlimited” to me. 

IMG_5174.thumb.jpg.98fc17b18284624172a397a96226ac74.jpg

IMG_5175.thumb.jpg.3fbf7456162f671b52961880aea270a0.jpg

IMG_5177.thumb.jpg.3897910eb7715721f9f16477db392579.jpg

IMG_5178.thumb.jpg.4d725b5e699a5fb7c1309a65a4d73397.jpg

IMG_5179.thumb.jpg.881088645a61c1b61d55432b65e6d3fc.jpg

IMG_5180.thumb.jpg.c84fdab35711c51da638f8fba6fc1ce9.jpg

IMG_5181.thumb.jpg.24c1b8008d20822d2c380b4e49a3b4ae.jpg

IMG_5183.thumb.jpg.87e8b3727e73182588f0f78a1b85c960.jpg

IMG_5184.thumb.jpg.f07840215a0e5763d6b8d609a461785c.jpg

 

 

 

take it please

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, vaillant said:

@SOTIcollector: I must remember to link you when i will be able to prepare my WW2 "wartime" sales thread, as I have a rare SOTI-related German item from the postwar. (thumbsu

Thanks, @Valliant, I'd very much appreciate that.  I have lots of US related items and a couple UK ones, but I have nothing SOTI-related from Germany.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 4/24/2020 at 1:05 PM, SOTIcollector said:

Next copy, second printing of SOTI, with dust jacket.  You can tell the second print because

1) It doesn't have the R colophon on the publication page and 

2) The dust jacket reads "SECOND PRINTING" at the top of the front flap.

Dust jacket worn with some edge chipping, and some paper loss at the spine.  Protected in a Brodart-style protector.

Book is sharp and unmarked. Photocopy of the bibliography page included.

$200 shipped via Media Mail; Add $12 for Priority.

 

 

One big price drop on this one.  Now $150.  SOLD JRBaxter

 

Edited by SOTIcollector
sold
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Crimes by Women #9. 

This is one of Fox's sleaziest titles.  Sure, around this time period Victor Fox got some amazing talent, like Feldstein, Kamen and of course Baker.  This book, like many of Fox's other books, did not have top talent working on it.  That's part of the charm of this series.  Feast your peepers on the horrid artwork and sleaze that is Crimes by Women #9.

Low grade book, as you can see.  Snug centerfold and cover seems to be attached solidly at the staples.  Ragged edges, a bunch of tape on the spine, FC hole near the spine, a BC hole, and the list of defects goes on.  But, hey, it's a Crimes by Women, a series that has picked up a lot of steam in the last few years.

$40.  SOLD Black Bat

IMG_5249.thumb.jpg.e21a1aebe2eac844ad166ff9f35a8a74.jpg

IMG_5258.thumb.jpg.87ef839dae860343af6d751582aa4fd8.jpg

IMG_5259.thumb.jpg.6dba608049c13d8d84aa0c9135133e43.jpg

IMG_5260.thumb.jpg.fe23d09a7ffcf8d04324e06807147e38.jpg

IMG_5261.thumb.jpg.2c1278afc8ce9381656a1c44cd31a833.jpg

IMG_5250.thumb.jpg.5a5bdf2998707b03d4ee19d110dbc117.jpg

IMG_5251.thumb.jpg.fd4a7a2b45f5cbb34b740446d977c783.jpg

IMG_5252.thumb.jpg.98171a24710576e5e994eb99d34ef52e.jpg

IMG_5253.thumb.jpg.e922ff86f253a4a92713a1185744e50d.jpg

IMG_5254.thumb.jpg.9ccfb21816a17112417926be0bedba61.jpg

IMG_5255.thumb.jpg.ceae7d283148b98cdc4caaff89ec63be.jpg

IMG_5257.thumb.jpg.cbc59d3c54795fc2fb944b6a39cb3209.jpg

IMG_5262.thumb.jpg.1946ac28ec607bc07ab5df55936f5bff.jpg

IMG_5263.thumb.jpg.05a3239fefef0ce97e2e3e1abcc661ad.jpg

IMG_5265.thumb.jpg.5d836f59582c7259f3ce545a9059364d.jpg

IMG_5266.thumb.jpg.4c9711bc9a7b694a31b0233563c72fae.jpg

IMG_5268.thumb.jpg.a1fc1660ea3c8fb2a10ce4da1ea86f5c.jpg

 

 

 

 

Edited by SOTIcollector
sold
Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, SOTIcollector said:

Crimes by Women #9. 

This is one of Fox's sleaziest titles.  Sure, around this time period Victor Fox got some amazing talent, like Feldstein, Kamen and of course Baker.  This book, like many of Fox's other books, did not have top talent working on it.  That's part of the charm of this series.  Feast your peepers on the horrid artwork and sleaze that is Crimes by Women #9.

Low grade book, as you can see.  Snug centerfold and cover seems to be attached solidly at the staples.  Ragged edges, a bunch of tape on the spine, FC hole near the spine, a BC hole, and the list of defects goes on.  But, hey, it's a Crimes by Women, a series that has picked up a lot of steam in the last few years.

$40.

IMG_5249.thumb.jpg.e21a1aebe2eac844ad166ff9f35a8a74.jpg

take-i love this thread!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
10 10