Why it is a 9.4 but not a 8.5? 1 1

[Nicholaslo]

Few days ago, I bought a AMS300 graded at 9.4. When I received it, I found there are around 6-7 spin ticks and a one long color break the the open side. Once I got the slab, I thought it is a 8.5 since there are long color break on the open side. Can anyone please kindly give me some suggestion? Is this book worth for 9.4 instead of 8.5? is the grader just miss that long color break? 
 

here are some photo for your easy reference.

[Nicholaslo]

Two more high resolution photo 

[silversurfer275]

looks fine to me

[Chaos_in_Canada]

Return the 9.4 if you think it's overgraded.

You obviously want a nicer ASM300.

Same manufacturing wrinkle, better grade.

 

 

[Keys_Collector]

It is a 9.4, not a 9.8 plus grading is subjective and manufacturing defects are not counted against it.  Buy the book, not the grade. I would ask that you learn a bit more about inspecting before a purchase and grading before buying more graded books and running into similar issues.

[comicginger1789]

1 hour ago, Keys_Collector said:

It is a 9.4, not a 9.8 plus grading is subjective and manufacturing defects are not counted against it.  Buy the book, not the grade. I would ask that you learn a bit more about inspecting before a purchase and grading before buying more graded books and running into similar issues.

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Looks fine to me. Printer's crease is a manufacturing thing. You obviously want a nicer looking 9.4 so you should request lotsa pics in order to be happy. 

[picon3]

I have a few of these books in my collection.  I think they are referred to as "printer's veins" in which the paper slightly overlaps a bit during printing.  I have one, Astonishing Tales #28 with multiple veins on both the back and front of the cover.  Paul~

[theCapraAegagrus]

2 hours ago, Keys_Collector said:

It is a 9.4, not a 9.8 plus grading is subjective and manufacturing defects are not counted against it.  Buy the book, not the grade. I would ask that you learn a bit more about inspecting before a purchase and grading before buying more graded books and running into similar issues.

[Deadpoolica]

4 hours ago, Keys_Collector said:

It is a 9.4, not a 9.8 plus grading is subjective and manufacturing defects are not counted against it.  Buy the book, not the grade. I would ask that you learn a bit more about inspecting before a purchase and grading before buying more graded books and running into similar issues.

[Shoomanfoo]

Book looks nice.

thats a printing defect common with this book and it’s a 9.4

8.5 no way in hell.

i think you want a 9.8 for 9.4 price

[Math Teacher]

5 minutes ago, Shoomanfoo said:

i think you want a 9.8 for 9.4 price

Don't we all?

[Myowncollector]

It's not a 9.4 to me, but as far as grading companies are concerned it is. Like others said manufacturing defect, look at pictures before buying if you aren't going to trust a grading company's grading. 

[Myowncollector]

 

[Xenosmilus]

11 hours ago, Keys_Collector said:

It is a 9.4, not a 9.8 plus grading is subjective and manufacturing defects are not counted against it. 

You learn something everyday. It is what it is but I would think a manufacturing defect should count against the grade but that's my . I mean as an extreme example if the printer cut off part of the cover that wolud count as a manufacturing error and most people  wouldn't want the book.

Edited May 19, 2020 by Xenosmilus

[William-James88]

9.4 allows for all sorts of factory defects and that's where all those colour breaks are coming from. It makes for a flawed looking book but still a near mint one.

An 8.5 probably would not look much different, you are right, but the defects (like slight colour breaks) would come from wear and tear after it was produced and not from flaws during production.

[William-James88]

28 minutes ago, Xenosmilus said:

You learn something everyday. It is what it is but I would think a manufacturing defect should count against the grade but that's my . I mean as an extreme example if the printer cut off part of the cover that wolud count as a manufacturing error and most people  wouldn't want the book.

Not all books are equal. I collect golden age and come across a bunch of miscut books all the time. I have one where you clearly see the inner wraps were not cut preperly so part of one wrap is still on another page. So one page ends up having these pieces removed from the margin (but those same pieces are found elsewhere). But it's a great looking book that survived 70 years looking almost the same as the day it was made. I see no reason for the defect to go against the grade. 

[JollyComics]

CGC knows how to grade ASM 300 with their affirmatively experience....

[Chaos_in_Canada]

Here's an ASM300 9.8w with the manufacturing wrinkle (not mine...but I do own a 9.8w) 

 

[JollyComics]

34 minutes ago, Chaos_in_Canada said:

Here's an ASM300 9.8w with the manufacturing wrinkle (not mine...but I do own a 9.8w) 

 

About 8 years ago, I sold two 9.8 copies with the ragged right edge.

[The Lions Den]

On 5/24/2020 at 1:32 PM, JollyComics said:

CGC knows how to grade ASM 300 with their affirmatively experience....

Not exactly rare, is it?