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Zack Snyder's JUSTICE LEAGUE on HBO Max (2021)
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9 minutes ago, Callaway29 said:

Couldn’t finish it. Supremely annoying...does he end up saying something meaningful?

Tyrone's just an excited Snyder fanboy. It's tough to contain such excitement after years of haters incorrectly telling you, "it doesn't exist", "it's never going to happen", etc. 2c

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29 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

Tyrone's just an excited Snyder fanboy. It's tough to contain such excitement after years of haters incorrectly telling you, "it doesn't exist", "it's never going to happen", etc. 2c

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Jason Momoa claims he also experienced mistreatment on the set of Justice League. After Ray Fisher's bombshell allegations about interim director Joss Whedon's toxic behavior, while working on the project, which was supposedly enabled by Geoff Johns and Jon Berg, people have come out to support the actor. Arguably the biggest and most critical of the bunch is Momoa's backing, who now also says that he, too, maltreated while working on the project.

 

For context, Whedon was brought in to finish Justice League after original director Zack Snyder had to step away from the project due to a personal tragedy. Instead of simply completing the initial vision for the project, however, he manned extensive reshoots and cut a much-different movie that watered down Snyder's story plans for the film and beyond it. This became apparent when the film hit theaters back in 2017, paving the rise of the Release the Snyder Cut movement, which demanded Warner Bros. to release Snyder's work. More than two years of campaigning turned out to be worth it as Zack Snyder's Justice League is now slated to release on HBO Max next year.

 

On the heels of this massive development, Fisher has come out to reveal his supposed experience on the set of Justice League when Whedon took over. Now, Momoa fully backs up these claims, demanding accountability from Warner Bros., adding that he also had a bad experience as they finished the movie following Snyder's exit.

 

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So it appears WB Studios may have contracted Umberto Gonzalez (studio reporter known to chase tires for any credibility) to write a hit piece to discredit Ray Fisher.

Fortunately, people saw through this when it was clear who wrote the article, along with how it tagged Fisher to make it clear if he didn't back off he would get more of this.

This is killing the WB brand further after all that Zack Snyder's Justice League good will as a few senior executives hide behind the brands to attack their accuser. Ugly!

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17 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said:

does WB still exist under this new plan with HBO?

I'm not sure if I understand the question correctly. Are you asking in reference to Warner Max? If so - Warner Max is simply the brand that the streaming service films/shows will be branded under. Warner Bros is still its own media production conglomerate.

So, Netflix and HBO Max are streaming services. "Netflix Original" is one brand's original content and "Warner Max" is the other's.

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45 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

I'm not sure if I understand the question correctly. Are you asking in reference to Warner Max? If so - Warner Max is simply the brand that the streaming service films/shows will be branded under. Warner Bros is still its own media production conglomerate.

So, Netflix and HBO Max are streaming services. "Netflix Original" is one brand's original content and "Warner Max" is the other's.

From what I have read, WarnerMedia is what used to be considered Time-Warner as the parent company. So all sub-divisions fall under that header as the parent company.

A link to the WarnerMedia announcement the previous month how it was restructuring the organization.

WarnerMedia Organization Update (as of August 2020)

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  1. We are elevating HBO Max in the organization and expanding its scope globally.
  2. We are simplifying how we organize our studios.
  3. We are creating a consolidated International unit focused on scale and efficiency.
  4. We are bringing our key commercial activities into one group to allow us to operate more strategically.
  5. We are making other structural changes that will help us operate more effectively and efficiently.

Andy Forssell, General Manager of HBO Max, will now be leading a newly created HBO Max operating business unit and report to me. Andy and his team will be responsible for the product, marketing, consumer engagement and global rollout of HBO Max. 

 

Ann Sarnoff, Warner Bros. Chair and CEO, will be leading our newly created Studios and Networks Group, combining original production (content studios) and programming capabilities currently spread across Warner Bros., HBO, HBO Max, TNT, TBS and TruTV.  This group will oversee all WarnerMedia television series and motion picture development, production and programming, partnering with Andy to ensure HBO Max is successful globally. 

 

Casey Bloys, President HBO Programming, will also be taking on original content responsibilities for HBO Max and the domestic linear networks TNT, TBS, and TruTV. Casey will report to Ann. Casey and the HBO team have done an incredible job over the last several decades delighting consumers with HBO original programming and I am excited for Casey and this expanded team to have an even greater impact on the world.


The Warner Bros. Motion Pictures Group continues to be led by Chairman Toby Emmerich.

 

Warner Bros. Television Studios group continues to be led by Chairman Peter Roth.

 

Warner Bros. Interactive remains part of the Studios and Networks group, along with our Global Brands and Franchises team including DC led by Pam Lifford, and our Kids, Young Adults and Classics business led by Tom Ascheim, all focused on engaging fans with our brands and franchises through games and other interactive experiences. 


Gerhard Zeiler, currently Chief Revenue Officer, will now be leading a newly integrated international group comprised of the international operations of Warner Bros., HBO and Turner Networks. This group will be responsible for local execution of all WarnerMedia linear businesses, commercial activities, and regional programming for HBO Max.

 

Tony Goncalves, CEO of Otter and a key leader of HBO Max, will lead the new commercial unit that combines the U.S. advertising sales and distribution groups with our home entertainment and content licensing so that all commercial activities are strategically managed across internal and external customers. 

 

Christy Haubegger, Chief Enterprise Inclusion Officer, will now also oversee the global marketing and communications team including branding and corporate social responsibility, as we bring together all of our efforts around equity and inclusion throughout our business. 

 

Jeff Zucker continues as Chairman of WarnerMedia News and Sports. Pascal Desroches (CFO), Rich Tom (CTO), Jim Cummings (CHRO), Priya Dogra (EVP, Strategy and Corporate Development) and Jim Meza (EVP, General Counsel) continue to report to me.

 

Simplifying our approach and narrowing our focus goes beyond, for example, having one content organization vs two. It also means that we will be reducing the size of our teams, our layers, and our overall workforce. These reductions are not in any way a reflection of the quality of the people impacted nor their work. It is simply a function of the above changes I believe are necessary for WarnerMedia and our collective ability to best serve customers. This is the part that is painful and very hard. It is difficult to find the appropriate words here to say other than that I am very sorry. These are talented, admired leaders and beloved colleagues.

 

Three of those talented, admired leaders who will be leaving the company are Bob Greenblatt, Kevin Reilly and Keith Cocozza. I want to thank Bob and Kevin for getting us to this point with the integration of HBO and the legacy Turner Networks and launch of HBO Max. It has been such an impressive sequence of events, and we are so much better for it. I also owe a tremendous amount of gratitude and thanks to Keith, for not only helping me navigate these last few months at the company - and with the media - but more importantly for his 19 years at the company through its evolution. I have never met a kinder, more collaborative executive in my career. I can’t wait to see how each of these leaders change the world in the years to come.

 

I realize this is a lot to take in. And none of us should expect the above changes to be easy. That said, we are successfully navigating a pandemic together and I know that, however challenging the above changes may be, we will also successfully navigate them as well. As each of you take some time to digest the above, I hope that you become more and more energized by how, together, we are boldly leaning into the future and this historic opportunity that is right in front of us. It is an honor to be on this team with each of you.

 

Jason

 

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Fans of director Zack Snyder have raised over $250,000 for the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. In honor of the director’s late daughter, the fandom has routinely come together over the last three years to raise money and awareness for AFSP. This initiative did not simply stop with the announcement of Zack Snyder’s Justice League for HBO MAX, it only grew.

 

The relationship between fan and filmmaker has seen an evolution in recent years, but none have the bond that Zack Snyder has built with his fans. Following the release of Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, the director began interacting with his fans through the social media platform, Vero. Over the next few years, he would chat with fans around the world about his work, allowing unprecedented access to the director’s process in creating his films. Whether it was sharing a storyboard, or hinting at stories to come, this relationship quickly became unique in the industry.

 

In 2017, Zack Snyder lost his daughter, Autumn Snyder, to suicide and stepped down from Justice League. The announcement broke the hearts of the fandom and rallied them around the filmmaker during his grief. It was not long before the fandom began to donate to AFSP in honor of her and the Snyder family.

 

The #ReleaseTheSnyderCut movement was never truly centralized in its efforts to raise money for AFSP, and that is exactly what made it so special. By and large, the fans were always open and willing to launch their own projects to raise money for the common goal. From fan-driven t-shirt campaigns, flyover banners, YouTube streams, and charity screenings, it took individuals from around the world to open their hearts and wallets to fight for suicide prevention. This was coupled with larger organized events for both SDCC and NYCC, including shirts, GoFundMe’s, and billboards to raise awareness for the film while donating and matching all money earned towards AFSP.

 

The director himself joined the fans with charity campaigns of his own, generating large sums of money for awareness and suicide prevention. In 2019, Snyder released a ‘Justice League’ T-Shirt which raised over $85,000 on its own. Later in the same year, Snyder launched a ‘Zack Snyder’s Justice League’ t-shirt and hoodie campaign, which also has raised tens of thousands of dollars since then.

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In October, director Zack Snyder will roll cameras for his extended cut of Justice League, working for WarnerMedia’s HBO Max division on restoring his version of the maligned 2017 movie that he exited because of a family tragedy. The shoot, which will turn the “Snyder Cut” into a four-episode limited series, is expected to bring back Ben Affleck as Batman, Henry Cavill as Superman and Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman for new scenes. Also set to appear on the call sheet for what is expected to be a week- or so- long shoot is Ray Fisher as Cyborg.

 

The latter is noteworthy because Fisher is in a public dispute with sister WarnerMedia division Warner Bros., which he accuses of permitting Joss Whedon, the director who took over from Snyder, to engage in misconduct and abuse while reshooting Justice League. Fisher also claimed that executives Jon Berg and Geoff Johns, who both have since left the studio, enabled Whedon’s behavior. (Warner Bros. declined comment. WarnerMedia remains in business with Whedon, whose new show, HBO sci-fi drama The Nevers, is back in production in London.)

 

For Fisher, being cast as superhero Cyborg by Snyder was supposed to be the break of a lifetime. The actor went from theatre work and one episode of television to land the character, who was first introduced in Snyder’s Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) then showcased more predominantly in Justice League. Cyborg was also get his own standalone movie, which was slated for 2020. But all that was years ago. Justice League disappointed at the box office and a DC Films shake up saw Johns and Berg let go, to be replaced Walter Hamada, an executive from Warners' sister arm New Line.

 

Fisher’s dissatisfaction came to light June 29 when he shared a video clip of himself at 2017’s San Diego Comic-Con praising Whedon but writing on Twitter he’d like to “retract every bit of this statement.” On July 1, the actor elaborated, calling Whedon’s behavior on set “gross, abusive, unprofessional and completely unacceptable.” Fisher’s remarks pushed WarnerMedia to investigate the claims, and on Aug. 20, he announced the company was looking into them. That led to a back and forth between WarnerMedia and Fisher about whether he was cooperating with the investigation (they claimed he wasn’t, but he said he was).

 

On Sept. 4, Fisher tweeted that Hamada, who had no connection to the previous Warners or DC film regime, had privately disparaged Whedon and Berg to him, in an effort to spare Johns.  The studio responded with a statement of its own, claiming Fisher had not cooperated with the investigation, and Fisher fired back with a screenshot of an email that seemed to show he had indeed met with an investigator. He also wrote Warners "has escalated this to an entirely different level, but I’m ready to meet the challenge." On Sept. 14, Aquaman’s Jason Momoa reignited Fisher’s claims of misconduct, writing on Instagram, “It needs to be investigated and people need to be held accountable.” Momoa's wading into the delicate issue is said to have caught both the studio and his own team off-guard as the actor and studio are preparing to shoot Aquaman 2 early next year.

 

Insiders recall to THR that the Justice League reshoots conducted by Whedon were a messy and hastily assembled affair. Snyder left the project in May 2017, ahead of a November release date. Whedon had to cram an extensive rewrite and reshoot and take over postproduction. One person present at the reshoots describes a set filled with tension and says the director was difficult with actors. But this person also says they did not witness physical or other abuse. Johns and Berg were under pressure, another insider notes, as they were trying to deliver a tentpole and knew their jobs were on the line. Whedon did jettison many of Fisher’s scenes, according to sources, and his directing style is described as the opposite of Snyder’s collaborative approach. It also is unclear if Fisher filed a complaint at the time.

 

Fisher is in talks with Warner Bros. to make a cameo in The Flash, a Justice League spinoff movie due to shoot next year. He has options negotiated for future appearances, including cameos, beyond the initial film. But in earlier drafts of the Flash -script, Cyborg was a much more active player than the one in the current -script. Sources say the studio exercised its option for Flash, even upping its negotiated price for what’s described as a three-scene appearance. Fisher’s side countered with a figure doubling that. Warners turned that down, and negotiations have remained stalled for weeks.

 

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Zack Snyder’s Justice League will be released as a four-part miniseries in 2021. The format is a smart choice, helping both Snyder and HBO Max as it keeps viewers engaged on the platform, but also keeps Justice League as a topic of conversation. AT&T and Warner Media likely would not put in any investment if it was simply a “one-time deal.” On the contrary, if Zack Snyder’s Justice League takes off as expected, there is always room for more.

 

The average Game of Thrones episode had a production budget in the $10 million to $15 million range. Now, let’s apply this to the Justice League. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman alone have an IP value higher than most in entertainment. Throw in the bonus of having Gal Gadot, Jason Momoa and Ezra Miller, each with major roles on the theatrical side of Warner Bros Pictures, creates extra synergy between the brand. Henry Cavill’s Superman and Ben Affleck’s Batman continue to prove they are fan favorites, routinely trending on their own. Each of these actors have spoken highly of Zack Snyder, with a source pointing out that they would do anything for the director.

 

Having a dedicated miniseries for Snyder’s vision and these core group of characters could give HBO Max a solid edge in the streaming wars. Zack Snyder has strongly teased that his complete vision exists as a five-movie arc. After the Snyder Cut is translated into a miniseries, that still leaves the last two parts of Snyder’s Justice League story up for grabs. Pending that all the actors agree, WarnerMedia should jump at the chance of having potentially two more seasons of Justice League specifically for HBO Max. For Marvel fans, imagine having Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Evans on Disney+ for their own Avengers series.

 

Zack Snyder’s Justice League will be out in 2021 and if the fans show up to watch this thing the way they campaigned for it, they could be enjoying more of the Snyderverse for years to come, and the director can show them just how deep his DC Comics rabbit hole goes.

 

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