Wayne-Tec Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Hypothetically, if the CGC 9.2 copy became available for sale/auction, or another high grade Tec #27, and it set a new world record for the sale of a single comic book... Would Tec #27s in all/most grades then jump ahead of Action #1 to become the No. 1 FMV book in the hobby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northwest Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The distribution of collectors at each level might be distinct. In other words, each auction has its own dynamics, bidder pool and signals. Plus, the Church Action 1 abides.  Gotham Kid, jimjum12 and littledoom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I don't think so. I think it would raise the value of action 1 further, to be honest. littledoom, zosocane, Readcomix and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 My guess is no. Uber HG comics are in a league of their own. littledoom, Larryw7 and telerites 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Batman 1's would undoubtedly experience a bump. Larryw7, Gotham Kid and littledoom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 33 minutes ago, Northwest said: The distribution of collectors at each level might be distinct. In other words, each auction has its own dynamics, bidder pool and signals. Plus, the Church Action 1 abides.  Ya that will be a killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, Wayne-Tec said: Hypothetically, if the CGC 9.2 copy became available for sale/auction, or another high grade Tec #27, and it set a new world record for the sale of a single comic book... Would Tec #27s in all/most grades then jump ahead of Action #1 to become the No. 1 FMV book in the hobby? If so it would be for illogical reasons, because, among other facts, it wouldn't change the fact there is a Mile High Action 1 out there which is probably 9.2. But the behavior of people is not always logical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Great topic for discussion. I think it would take 2 high sales of comparable grades to knock it from the top spot without argument. We also so don’t know if the Church would grade a 9.2 or 9.4.would beat it. With 2 9.0’s begins the Church I think that makes the 9.2 Tec thst much more special. Next highest graded ? 8.0 ? 8.5 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledoom Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I don't think a new record would undo AC1 as the holiest grail.. it's been lauded that way for decades even before Tec27 was considered that expensive.. AC1 has a lot going for it .. all these are understatements of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 If a high grade Spawn 1 did, would you expect the same? That should give you the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-Tec Posted May 24, 2020 Author Share Posted May 24, 2020 So long as the Church Action #1 remains raw, we can only speculate. 9.2-9.4 may be a very real possibility, but it wouldn't take much to knock it down to 9.0-9.2 if the book is being handled raw. This happens to books all the time, ones that aren't as old as Action #1. We also don't know how well the 9.2 Tec #27 presents. It would be interesting to see the two books side by side to see which looks better. But my question has just as much to do with the future of both two books as it does specific high grade copies. I've long suspected that a shift in FMV may happen when the generation that grew up loving Batman (and feeling less enthusiastic about Superman) grows old enough to dominate the high-end GA market. That's not going to happen for another 15-30 years or so. But seeing a new world record set with the sale of a Tec #27 might give that shift an early push. With the two books holding somewhat similar value today, some may be hesitant to pay more for book 1-A than book 1-B. If a precedent is set in the high grade, it may trickle down to the lower grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince G Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 While theoretically there may be a higher grade raw copy (its certainly not the Church), what we do know for sure is that there is a graded 9.2. Is the raw one (Allentown) nicer than that? Maybe, but it's not far fetched to say there is also the distinct possibility that it is not... Chicago Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 22 hours ago, Wayne-Tec said: So long as the Church Action #1 remains raw, we can only speculate. 9.2-9.4 may be a very real possibility, but it wouldn't take much to knock it down to 9.0-9.2 if the book is being handled raw. This happens to books all the time, ones that aren't as old as Action #1. We also don't know how well the 9.2 Tec #27 presents. It would be interesting to see the two books side by side to see which looks better. But my question has just as much to do with the future of both two books as it does specific high grade copies. I've long suspected that a shift in FMV may happen when the generation that grew up loving Batman (and feeling less enthusiastic about Superman) grows old enough to dominate the high-end GA market. That's not going to happen for another 15-30 years or so. But seeing a new world record set with the sale of a Tec #27 might give that shift an early push. With the two books holding somewhat similar value today, some may be hesitant to pay more for book 1-A than book 1-B. If a precedent is set in the high grade, it may trickle down to the lower grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 1 minute ago, woowoo said: The book seems over-sized. Is it a treasury edition? zosocane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 29 minutes ago, comicdonna said: The book seems over-sized. Is it a treasury edition? treasury edition don't have the sig or the 2nd chimney on the right and the roof tops are blue comicdonna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Vince G said: While theoretically there may be a higher grade raw copy (its certainly not the Church), what we do know for sure is that there is a graded 9.2. Is the raw one (Allentown) nicer than that? Maybe, but it's not far fetched to say there is also the distinct possibility that it is not... Reputedly it's much nicer than a 9.2. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 18 minutes ago, tth2 said: Reputedly it's much nicer than a 9.2. MUCH nicer than a Certified 9.2. W// White pages ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detective35 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) Somebody very prominent in grading has seen both books and said he felt the Action Church 1 would be Closer to a 9.4 than a 9.2, so let’s assume 9.4, while the Allentown Tec 27 he said is a lock at at least a 9.6! Edited May 25, 2020 by detective35DF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, detective35 said: Somebody very prominent in grading has seen both books and said he felt the Action Church 1 would be Closer to a 9.4 than a 9.2, so let’s assume 9.4, while the Allentown Tec 27 he said is a lock at at least a 9.6! If the Tec 27 is a cgc 9.6 it will blow the church Action 1 away at 9.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detective35 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) No, even though I like Tec 27 more, in my opinion, the Church Action 1 is the King, and would command top dollar! Edited May 25, 2020 by detective35DF comicdonna, jimjum12, Superman2006 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
