Encapsulation question for the masses 0

[Sensei Ryan]

Hey everyone!

I have a unique question.  I saw a post in the 'ask CGC' forum where a recent submitter had a book rejected because the pages were loose in one of his books he subbed.  His response from a CGC rep was that they do not grade books with detached pages:

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My question is, I've seen numerous slabs with the centerfold detached, cover detached, multiple inner wraps detached, etc...so am I crazy in thinking that this book that the submitter had rejected wasn't for that reason but for a different reason entirely maybe?  I've also seen slabs with a front cover - missing back, etc...so I thought I'd ask the group for their thoughts and insight...

[theCapraAegagrus]

7 hours ago, Sensei Ryan said:

Hey everyone!

I have a unique question.  I saw a post in the 'ask CGC' forum where a recent submitter had a book rejected because the pages were loose in one of his books he subbed.  His response from a CGC rep was that they do not grade books with detached pages:

Thread in question

My question is, I've seen numerous slabs with the centerfold detached, cover detached, multiple inner wraps detached, etc...so am I crazy in thinking that this book that the submitter had rejected wasn't for that reason but for a different reason entirely maybe?  I've also seen slabs with a front cover - missing back, etc...so I thought I'd ask the group for their thoughts and insight...

The comic in the thread you referenced is both detached and incomplete (missing back cover).

I can't recall if I've ever seen a graded comic with covers or wraps completely detached at all staples.

[joeypost]

Years ago I remember a low grade AF 15 with no staples that was graded. Maybe they changed their stance since then. 

[newshane]

13 hours ago, Sensei Ryan said:

Hey everyone!

I have a unique question.  I saw a post in the 'ask CGC' forum where a recent submitter had a book rejected because the pages were loose in one of his books he subbed.  His response from a CGC rep was that they do not grade books with detached pages:

Thread in question

My question is, I've seen numerous slabs with the centerfold detached, cover detached, multiple inner wraps detached, etc...so am I crazy in thinking that this book that the submitter had rejected wasn't for that reason but for a different reason entirely maybe?  I've also seen slabs with a front cover - missing back, etc...so I thought I'd ask the group for their thoughts and insight...

I admit that I haven't read the link to the thread...

but CGC will reject books with overhang. This is most commonly seen in older books (pre-silver). 

From my understanding, if they think the encapsulation process will in anyway damage a book (like one with overhang), they will refuse to grade it. 

Edited June 2, 2020 by newshane

[Sensei Ryan]

4 hours ago, newshane said:

I admit that I haven't read the link to the thread...

but CGC will reject books with overhang. This is most commonly seen in older books (pre-silver). 

From my understanding, if they think the encapsulation process will in anyway damage a book (like one with overhang), they will refuse to grade it. 

In the original post the CGC rep states that they won't grade anything with detached pages that could move around in the holder - I haven't seen his book so maybe missing the back cover as well its why they wouldn't grade it but I just sold a golden age book that the interior was entirely detached and completely split with brittle pages, to boot.  To me, why would they encapsulate that book (the one I sold) and not the OP of the other thread?  I'm assuming I'd have to see his book in person to understand it but it just made me wonder why it could have been rejected...