Popular Post KCOComics Posted June 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 7, 2020 I just spent 45 minutes of my life reading 7 pages of posts in this thread. It was the most enjoyable 45 minutes in recent memory. OP - you are 100% right, it's perfectly reasonable to expect people to grade books without seeing them. Thank you for not spoon feeding these corrupt CGC loyalist. Since I hope not to be owned by a day 1 noob like everyone else here, I'll grade your book using only the graders notes. Before reading the notes I thought it was a 9.8, after reading them I would say 6.0! Disgraceful! On a slightly more serious note, one of the first times I submitted a book to CGC, I was expecting a F / VF and got a 4.0 PLOD. I was pretty upset. I even got CGC on the phone to explain where the resto was.... it was a bad experience, but it forced me to learn about grading and spotting restoration. If you care to learn, you should share pictures with these guys and ask questions. There is a ton of knowledge here when your not to busy owning everyone. 1950's war comics, comicquant, theCapraAegagrus and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Randall Ries said: Mully79 is a troll and best ignored. Who needs the aggravation? I hope his books fall in the tub of water he can soak his head in. The waters great! Dive on in.. Yes a lot of times trolls are only good for ignoring , others it provides hours or in this case pages of entertainment. Besides I think the only one truly aggravated was the OP.. Edited June 8, 2020 by onlyweaknesskryptonite The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 So, when will the real boardie fess up re: the shill account Mully79? Comics4All 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightning55 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 It's too bad things progressed the way they did. The OP was expecting people to beat him up for his over-grading, so did not want to present any info beyond grader notes on a book we can't see. I realize he can't show the photos because the book hasn't even been received back yet, and he probably wouldn't have known to take photos before shipping. But I think he would have gotten an equal amount of empathy and criticism. There are a lot of us who sent stuff in with high expectations, only to be mortally wounded. And the graders can be off now and then, a bit. But he was so defensive, and then offensive, that nothing good came of it. I send large bunches of books in, so my hopes are not riding on a single comic only. I don't photograph them ahead, as most are not crazy-expensive to begin with, but I do keep a log of what grade I THINK they should get. The results usually get divided into 3 roughly equal segments: a third a bit lower, a third a bit higher, a third dead on. That's probably the best I am going to get. So far, the worst has been a projected 9.2 that came back 8.0, and I think that was due to some areas of light foxing that I didn't give enough weight to. The best was a projected 7.5 that came back 9.6. What I was taking points off for probably turned out to be considered a manufacturing defect, so not counted so much. You have to take the bad with the good. onlyweaknesskryptonite, Keys_Collector and The Lions Den 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, Lightning55 said: It's too bad things progressed the way they did. The OP was expecting people to beat him up for his over-grading, so did not want to present any info beyond grader notes on a book we can't see. I realize he can't show the photos because the book hasn't even been received back yet, and he probably wouldn't have known to take photos before shipping. But I think he would have gotten an equal amount of empathy and criticism. There are a lot of us who sent stuff in with high expectations, only to be mortally wounded. And the graders can be off now and then, a bit. But he was so defensive, and then offensive, that nothing good came of it. I send large bunches of books in, so my hopes are not riding on a single comic only. I don't photograph them ahead, as most are not crazy-expensive to begin with, but I do keep a log of what grade I THINK they should get. The results usually get divided into 3 roughly equal segments: a third a bit lower, a third a bit higher, a third dead on. That's probably the best I am going to get. So far, the worst has been a projected 9.2 that came back 8.0, and I think that was due to some areas of light foxing that I didn't give enough weight to. The best was a projected 7.5 that came back 9.6. What I was taking points off for probably turned out to be considered a manufacturing defect, so not counted so much. You have to take the bad with the good. great post. Perhaps the OP can learn from this fine example. onlyweaknesskryptonite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 13 hours ago, Artboy99 said: Perhaps the OP can learn Doubtful. The-Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mec3437 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Got two pages in and this dumbest mess I've read in a while, and I've read Dazzler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) On 6/7/2020 at 10:39 AM, joeypost said: I often wondered about this. Many times I have sent in invoices that I thought were identical in grade (these were pre-screens). One invoice has few failures while the next has 25% or more. I find that I get a pass rate of at least 50% on my pre-screen failures the second time around. Thank you for your insight, it has helped clear up things in my mind. You're certainly welcome! Of course, a pre-screen can be tricky as well. In fact, I remember approaching those a bit differently due to the sheer volume that can be involved. Since the strategy is to eliminate any books that fall below the desired grade (let's say the desired grade is 9.8), I found it easier to quickly reject books that were obviously not 9.8's due to a noticeable flaw or flaws on the front cover---there's no need to look any further. Once that was accomplished, I'd go through the remaining books in a more methodical fashion, gradually narrowing down the invoice until only the best candidates remained. Since time is always of the essence at CGC, this method seemed more efficient than trying to actually grade every book in the prescreen. If memory serves, the books that pass the initial prescreen aren't actually graded then---that happens later, and often by someone else. My feeling is that if a grader attempts to grade every book in a large prescreen, they're often likely to experience a sense of frustration, because they'll eventually start second guessing themselves. That can lead to a heightened sense of urgency to move through the prescreen quickly, and consequently certain books can be rejected which may have made the cut on a different day. This could also explain why some of the books you've submitted are initially rejected but ultimately approved the second time around. Looking at books a second time can offer a completely different perspective... Edited June 16, 2020 by The Lions Den onlyweaknesskryptonite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crops068 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Wow, I needed a dose of mind vomit. This certainly didn't disappoint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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silversurfer275 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 damn that guy was a mega clown im 100 percent sure he never graded anything he just wanted to be a clown I hate people like that Deadpoolica 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmat Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 He was clearly expecting a 10.0 but got a 8.0 instead The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 (edited) Mully's back with a new thread for all us mental deficients. Edited June 10, 2020 by Jeffro. Dave2739 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crops068 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Jeffro. said: Mully's back with a new thread for all us mental deficients. Thanks for the heads up. I am now caught up. This is like watching Days of Our Lives with my mom 30+ years ago. Now I just need the popcorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood1892 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Crops068 said: Thanks for the heads up. I am now caught up. This is like watching Days of Our Lives with my mom 30+ years ago. Now I just need the popcorn. I wouldnt waste a bowl of popcorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crops068 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said: I wouldnt waste a bowl of popcorn Well to be fair, I don't eat popcorn so there is that. Hollywood1892 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Crops068 said: 4 hours ago, Jeffro. said: Mully's back with a new thread for all us mental deficients. Thanks for the heads up. I am now caught up. This is like watching Days of Our Lives with my mom 30+ years ago. Now I just need the popcorn. Can't wait for his next appearance. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crops068 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 20 hours ago, Jeffro. said: Can't wait for his next appearance. Well the other post has been yoinked by Mods. Wonder if this one will get the same? 1950's war comics and Comics4All 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crops068 said: Well the other post has been yoinked by Mods. Wonder if this one will get the same? I hope so, because we'll see @Mully79 come back on an even bigger warpath (assuming the mods don't also send him to the chair). Should make for plenty of continued amusement. Keys_Collector and theCapraAegagrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 20 minutes ago, Crops068 said: Well the other post has been yoinked by Mods. Wonder if this one will get the same? Sorry about that. I found the AI guy's information fascinating, and the ridiculous attempts to shut him up infuriating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
