Slyde Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Very large tear in cover that had been taped (see 2nd photo). MVS is intact. Trying to determine if it makes any sense to send this in for grading. Thanks! Edited December 9, 2020 by Slyde Galen130 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 I think this could be a 1.5. What I wonder is if it would be considered restored or not. Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1.8 IMO. Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1.0 to 1.5 I don't think that's considered restored. You could send to CCS and have them take a look. Possibly remove the tape and do conservation? Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys_Collector Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1.5 and i'd send it in to get slabbed. Shouldn't be restored and should be a blue label 1.5 with notes of tape on inside cover. Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 Reader copy...1.0/1.5. Getting slabbed isn't a bad idea. I'd see if any restoration is possible...IMO. Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1.0 Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos_in_Canada Posted July 8, 2020 Share Posted July 8, 2020 1.0 Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyde Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 I guess the cover tear was too much.... Here's my question: If the Marvel Value Stamp was missing (it isn't), would this likely have been a Purple label 0.5? Grader Notes:light staining to covermoderate bends to covermoderate creasing to coverthree fourths piece re-attached with tape cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Wow. .5 seems awfully harsh. I thought that was reserved for books with entire page(s) missing. ThothAmon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Yeah, 0.5 doesn't seem correct here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Slyde said: I guess the cover tear was too much.... Here's my question: If the Marvel Value Stamp was missing (it isn't), would this likely have been a Purple label 0.5? Grader Notes:light staining to covermoderate bends to covermoderate creasing to coverthree fourths piece re-attached with tape cover Qualified Label, not Restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 The 0.5 is leading me to question: Is the tape archival/conservation quality? If not, they may be treating it as though the cover is 3/4 detached? Although, that doesn't make any more sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slyde Posted December 12, 2020 Author Share Posted December 12, 2020 General question: If this was your book, what would you do with it at this point? Just leave it alone? or would you look into restoration and re-submit? It's not like the tear is the only problem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I would leave it alone, and call it the nicest .5 on the planet. Glassman10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicginger1789 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Ya I’d leave it! It looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunsicker Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 On 12/9/2020 at 5:20 AM, WPPJames said: Wow. .5 seems awfully harsh. I thought that was reserved for books with entire page(s) missing. On 12/8/2020 at 9:50 PM, Slyde said: I guess the cover tear was too much.... Here's my question: If the Marvel Value Stamp was missing (it isn't), would this likely have been a Purple label 0.5? Grader Notes:light staining to covermoderate bends to covermoderate creasing to coverthree fourths piece re-attached with tape cover CGC's current policy on tape is to grade as if the tape isn't there. Without the tape holding the 3/4 of the cover on it would be missing 3/4 of the front cover, ergo the .5 grade. If the tear wasn't complete it would probably have gotten the 1.0-1.8 everyone was guessing. Slyde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, thunsicker said: CGC's current policy on tape is to grade as if the tape isn't there. Without the tape holding the 3/4 of the cover on it would be missing 3/4 of the front cover, ergo the .5 grade. If the tear wasn't complete it would probably have gotten the 1.0-1.8 everyone was guessing. That makes sense. With the tape on I just viewed it as a really large tear. But I now see that its all the way across and that section would be completely detached if not for the tape. Edited December 12, 2020 by WPPJames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 I was thinking 0.5. For a comp here is my book with a large fc tear (which is smaller than the IH181 here and less noticeable). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WPPJames Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, The-Collector said: It's amazing how a lot of the defects seem to be minimized once hidden in a slab. The IH #181 is a perfect example. Looking at the front cover photo pre-slab and afterwards almost looks like two different books. The-Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
