Popular Post The Lions Den Posted July 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 20, 2020 17 hours ago, telerites said: I agree that companies start employees at lower levels. My first day I was put on the front desk trying to answer questions about unemployment insurance, employment, research statistics. Granted, I would hope CGC gave more training than that and also when I started with state government, it was in the mid 80s so things have changed. Regardless though, I would hope a graded with similar standards (albeit with the recognition of subjectivity) and hopefully graders are assessed on their grading based on their job specifications. I am not saying CGC doesn't do this nor am I saying that CGC grading is tighter now but I do think based on anecdotal observations and the chart shown that grading has fluctuated. If the inference is that one needs to submit at a higher tier (even though items qualify at lower tiers) to receive more consistent grading, I do feel that is appropriate. One should expect the same level of service across the organization. Does this happen, of course not, and it usually always a work in progress for proactive companies which i hope CGC is. CGC is the only choice for me for several reasons but that doesn't mean I think they are perfect and have no room for improvement. Thanks for the insightful reply. I have worked a variety of different jobs, but working for CGC was totally unique. Even though I knew how to grade (or at least, I thought I did) working there as a grader was very different from any other experience I've ever had. It was very challenging on a number of different levels. One thing I remember thinking is that it's one of those jobs that's a lot harder than it sounds. And to be honest, I was so immersed in it that I really didn't have much time for anything else. I'm happy to be able to relate at least some of the things I've learned to my fellow board members. I hope it's helpful for you to hear about things from a grader's perspective. It does sadden me when I hear of so many of you being disappointed with the grading lately. One thing I can tell you is that grading does tend to fluctuate. I used to call this "the ebb and flow" of the grading room. From my perspective, sitting in a room with a bunch of other graders can be a rather daunting task. For instance, if your grades are off, you will definitely receive feedback from other graders, often immediately. No one likes it when one of the graders is off...I suppose the subliminal fear is that it could be contagious. My hope is that this problem will be quickly corrected and things will return to where they were before. Time will tell... telerites, Larryw7, csaag and 8 others 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, The Lions Den said: Thanks for the insightful reply. I have worked a variety of different jobs, but working for CGC was totally unique. Even though I knew how to grade (or at least, I thought I did) working there as a grader was very different from any other experience I've ever had. It was very challenging on a number of different levels. One thing I remember thinking is that it's one of those jobs that's a lot harder than it sounds. And to be honest, I was so immersed in it that I really didn't have much time for anything else. I'm happy to be able to relate at least some of the things I've learned to my fellow board members. I hope it's helpful for you to hear about things from a grader's perspective. It does sadden me when I hear of so many of you being disappointed with the grading lately. One thing I can tell you is that grading does tend to fluctuate. I used to call this "the ebb and flow" of the grading room. From my perspective, sitting in a room with a bunch of other graders can be a rather daunting task. For instance, if your grades are off, you will definitely receive feedback from other graders, often immediately. No one likes it when one of the graders is off...I suppose the subliminal fear is that it could be contagious. My hope is that this problem will be quickly corrected and things will return to where they were before. Time will tell... Yes it will. Edited July 20, 2020 by joeypost The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/17/2020 at 12:01 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said: On 7/15/2020 at 5:24 PM, Red_Hood said: I should clarify though, when I say books are being slammed... I'm getting 9.6 and 9.4 when I damn well know these are 9.8's @Red_Hood Throw some of those books into the Grading Forum and let the masses determine the grades. @Red_Hood So you can't show us the 9.4s that you think should have been 9.8s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: @Red_Hood So you can't show us the 9.4s that you think should have been 9.8s? It's not a matter of can't..... It's a matter of won't..... As I mentioned on the first page of this thread...there are too many projects to deal with each day and there's not enough time in a day. I'm not about to undertake another project to appease a couple people, I focus my time on things that generate money. I'm not alone, the opinion of many other people in this thread speaks volumes about the under grading. jjonahjameson11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 9:12 PM, TDKR said: Hi folks i was curious about the books that were submitted from other companies to cgc. Those books were sent in their respective cases? If so i read that cgc states that you are not guaranteed the same grade and that the grade may come back lower. Isnt that a bit arrogant on their part? I dont think i would submit those books in their cases. I would just crack them out and submit them. It seems like they are purposely grading them lower so that in peoples minds they see the lower grades and think that these other companies do not grade accurately. It is like a punishment. The graders aren't aware that books were in cases from a different company, or their given grades. all they see is a raw book to grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazingbob Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 52 minutes ago, comicdonna said: The graders aren't aware that books were in cases from a different company, or their given grades. all they see is a raw book to grade. I don't believe that for one second. If I am sending them a CBCS book to crossover it is out of the holder already. There is a "underlying assumption" that the book is over graded if it is still in the CBCS holder. The Lions Den, Red_Hood and Tedsaid 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, blazingbob said: I don't believe that for one second. If I am sending them a CBCS book to crossover it is out of the holder already. There is a "underlying assumption" that the book is over graded if it is still in the CBCS holder. oooooooohhhhh, you so nasssssssty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastandpresentcomics Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 I recently submitted 25 books from 1991 X-men series. Issues 1-5, All were original store stock in storage for 29 years. They all came back 9.6-9.8 except issue 3. I talked to a rep at CGC but he was no help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 1 minute ago, pastandpresentcomics said: I recently submitted 25 books from 1991 X-men series. Issues 1-5, All were original store stock in storage for 29 years. They all came back 9.6-9.8 except issue 3. I talked to a rep at CGC but he was no help. Well there's your problem.... you only sent them corner pieces and spine pieces.... it should have gotten a .5 incomplete Seriously though, I feel your pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastandpresentcomics Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 What's weird is all five issues of #3 came back 8.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted July 20, 2020 Author Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, pastandpresentcomics said: What's weird is all five issues of #3 came back 8.0 and no grader's notes for any of them?!?!? The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazingbob Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 Here you go - https://www.eyebuydirect.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, pastandpresentcomics said: I recently submitted 25 books from 1991 X-men series. Issues 1-5, All were original store stock in storage for 29 years. They all came back 9.6-9.8 except issue 3. I talked to a rep at CGC but he was no help. There must be a fairly significant flaw for a book that looks like a 9.6 to be downgraded to an 8.0. No grading notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 maybe rust Larryw7 and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 12 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: maybe rust That is certainly a possibility... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Lions Den said: That is certainly a possibility... would have been included in the grader's notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastandpresentcomics Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said: would have been included in the grader's notes. No rust. No visible flaws and no graders notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 what's the label # i find it hard to believe there are no grader notes for an 8.0. for 9.4-9.8 i see it all the time but not for a 8.0 The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, pastandpresentcomics said: No rust. No visible flaws and no graders notes. No notes? Sheesh... You paid good money for a service, that's just lazy...or perhaps strategic (someone sees an 8.0 presenting as a 9.X, checks notes...nothing there to deter him/her from a resub). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastandpresentcomics Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, Callaway29 said: No notes? Sheesh... You paid good money for a service, that's just lazy...or perhaps strategic (someone sees an 8.0 presenting as a 9.X, checks notes...nothing there to deter him/her from a resub). Unfortunately there's not enough of a value jump to resubmit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
