John E. Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Varanis said: Why framed art? Can’t it just be unframed? Not all art, and I’d err that most framed art, is framed in a conservation manner. This is to say that you don’t know if the art has been glued to the matte (with a non-archival glue, I’m sure) and on a acid matte and now you have 1) damaged art; 2) art that is troublesome to reframe (because now you’re stuck with a cheesy matte) 3) a conservation bill you weren’t expecting. Many (most, all??!) sellers don’t disclose how the art was framed in their listings, or just don’t know at all. Then you have to pay a premium to have that cheesy, bulky frame shipped to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShallowDan Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 43 minutes ago, pemart1966 said: I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss coloured pieces. Hogarth hand coloured some Tarzan Sundays; Outcault partially hand coloured some Buster Browns; and King hand coloured some Gasoline Alley Sundays - to name a few. Hand coloured by the artist doesn't bother me in the least. Yep. I've seen some hand-colored pieces that hold up amazingly well (like George Herriman Krazy Kat's), but there seems to have been a trend towards using markers for a while in the 60s/70s and a lot of that stuff generally hasn't held up at all. Edited July 20, 2020 by ShallowDan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter L Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1. Personalizations to someone else is a deal breaker 2. Hand colored pieces done after the fact 3. Mold or fungus because I would be concerned it could spread to other art I own. 4. Alterations after the fact like the fake paste ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Judas Hel Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 1) Excessive damage to the art 2) Signatures within the artwork (no problem outside the panel borders but I dislike them inside the actual artwork itself) 3) Pencil only pieces (I’m an inked pieces only collector) 4) DC Comic Art (no knock on DC artists/art but I grew up reading Marvel Comics only so that is the only art I am interested in collecting) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 6 hours ago, kbmcvay said: What things make you stop considering a piece you would otherwise be interested in? For me: 1. Damage: Mold, water damage, being colored by hand, etc. are all things that make me not interested in a piece. I've seen plenty of these pages with issues priced at close to FMV. Not sure why anybody would pay that when you can get a comparable page with no damage for close to the same price. 2. Price increases on a page that a dealer has owned for years. If a dealer has a page on their site for 6 years at $5,000 and then they take it down for a few weeks/months and then relist it for sale at $8,000 why would I (or anyone else) pay that? Excessive commission fee + excessive shipping & 'handling' fees + Duties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinupcartooncollector Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 1. A wonky bit of anatomy that I can't unsee. 2. Artist is a jerk. Edited July 20, 2020 by pinupcartooncollector spelling Will_K and Unstoppablejayd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abe5M Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 "Historic piece" in the title description of the art and the art isn't really historic. Also for sale pieces with no price listed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eewwnuk Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Seller NC101 and Rick2you2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Benedict Judas Hel said: 1) Excessive damage to the art 2) Signatures within the artwork (no problem outside the panel borders but I dislike them inside the actual artwork itself) 3) Pencil only pieces (I’m an inked pieces only collector) 4) DC Comic Art (no knock on DC artists/art but I grew up reading Marvel Comics only so that is the only art I am interested in collecting) No “pencils only” art, huh? This is the only way you can buy “Lady Mechanika” published story pages by Joe Benitez: Edited July 21, 2020 by PhilipB2k17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedict Judas Hel Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, PhilipB2k17 said: No “pencils only” art, huh? This is the only way you can buy “Lady Mechanika” published story pages by Joe Benitez: Then I guess it is fortunate for me that I don’t collect Lady Mechanika published story pages. They look cool though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exitmusicblue Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Facial expression is key for me. Anatomy, posture etc. as well. And the energy of a piece, whether overt or understated but present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Peck Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said: No “pencils only” art, huh? This is the only way you can buy “Lady Mechanika” published story pages by Joe Benitez: And no dialog. That eliminates most of the modern panel pages for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Peck Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I went back and looked in my collection. I have over 500 interiors page but less than 40 without dialog or text. Of those one is a six page completely silent story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 If I want it enough, I can be flexible. But, the seller’s reputation for integrity is critical. That is one I am least likely to bend on. I hate old brownish glue stains, and am not keen on physical damage even if fixable. I also dislike artistic errors in costuming, and overly dense layouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC101 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 For some reason, seeing the word "rare" in the selling description is a minor turn off for me. Like of course it's rare, there's only one. It makes me mildly distrustful. spidey300, kbmcvay, Varanis and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GotSuperPowers? Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Size. Large than twice up art is so difficult to store. I've since got two large flat file draws so I can drop everything in there, but even so... John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeGiant Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, GotSuperPowers? said: Size. Large than twice up art is so difficult to store. I've since got two large flat file draws so I can drop everything in there, but even so... I have managed to snag some nice DPS due to the aversion to oversized art. You aren't the only collector who avoids them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Peck Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, GotSuperPowers? said: Size. Large than twice up art is so difficult to store. I've since got two large flat file draws so I can drop everything in there, but even so... Size doesn't matter!!! Larger can be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusX Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brian Peck said: Size doesn't matter!!! Larger can be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfilosa Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 18 hours ago, pinupcartooncollector said: 1. A wonky bit of anatomy that I can't unsee. 2. Artist is a jerk. #1 for sure. I love Jay Anacleto's work in this title. I only own one cover, but would love to own three or four more (if you have one, please sell it to me). That said, this cover has come up twice on ComicLink in recent years and the price is low, but I can't unsee her right arm/fingers. It just looks wrong. Her arms bend awkwardly, and for some reason Jay thickly "outlined" the fingers compared to the rest of her. Her foot in the background looks more like a big finger. I have passed twice as I know that is all that I would see, not the rest of the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
