Robot Man Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 3 hours ago, MrBedrock said: I am sure votes will come in on both sides, but which would you rather have 1) A run of Fantastic Four 1 - 60 all CGC 9.0 or better off-white or better OR 2) I don't know what you told your wife, but that would be hard to sneak into even my house... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunsicker Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, KCOComics said: 4 hours ago, MrBedrock said: I am sure votes will come in on both sides, but which would you rather have 1) A run of Fantastic Four 1 - 60 all CGC 9.0 or better off-white or better OR 2) Are we still playing? As much as I would love the FFs, that Action 15 is once in a life time. You gotta go for it when you have the chance. Playing? I assumed he was really offering it to us. I'll take the OA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbledclam Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 People ask me what they should collect and my response is what do you like? More often than not they are asking what do you think something is going to be worth in ten years. (Random number) I tell them if your buying something because you really have an appreciation for it that you can't go wrong whether it goes up or down in value. If your buying for investment purposes then buy the best blue chip items you can afford that have an established value within the medium and has shown stability and growth over time. Those are not always keys or secondary keys. Not everyone can afford a FF 1 but maybe you can afford a 5, 48, 52, or just a 73. If it is a 73 try to buy the best copy possible as higher grades sell for premium even with random numbers. The others are pretty much liquid in any condition. And here's a breakdown of the 73 someone put on YouTube. Lots and lots of great Kirby with a little Romita here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Robot Man said: I don't know what you told your wife, but that would be hard to sneak into even my house... It's hanging in the office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobbledclam Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Checks in the mail! Ah the bragging rights... I don't need to brag, but yes I do own the original art to Action Comics 15...could you please pass the Gray Poupon? Why thank you my good man... here...something for your effort and good day to you sir! MrBedrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusterMark Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 5 hours ago, MrBedrock said: I am sure votes will come in on both sides, but which would you rather have 1) A run of Fantastic Four 1 - 60 all CGC 9.0 or better off-white or better OR 2) Is this a trick question? Obviously the Action 15 OA. No contest. IngelsFan, MrBedrock and Randall Dowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 6 hours ago, MrBedrock said: When the art for the cover of Action 15 came up in Heritage I decided to make a run at it knowing I couldn't afford it. I had recently finished putting together a run of Fantastic Four 1 - 60 all in CGC 9.0 or better. I figured I could sell those and use the money for the Action 15 cover. My reasoning was that I could always put together another high grade run of Fantastic Four but I might never have a chance to get the cover art again. Flash forward six years. The FFs have all gone up in value tremendously but they are all available. The cover however will never be available again. That's because he is leaving it to me in his will and I have no plans on dying, ever. MrBedrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unstoppablejayd Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 4 hours ago, MrBedrock said: Low grade Marvel 1's have completely disappeared from the market. I don't think they exist. Sorry Harold. I am pretty sure there was one for sale on the boards within the last year and to answer your question the Action cover all day every day and twice on sunday.- According to GPA there are 29 live listings for FF1 right now. and they only track CGC cpies available - Finding specific vintage desirable OA available for sale you want is like finding a needle in a haystack during a tornado with 1000 other people looking in the same place. KCOComics and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 5 hours ago, MrBedrock said: But again you miss the point that you are trying to make. It is all about the joy of ownership. There is no other way for you to add it to your collection. If you want to own a piece then buy a piece. But don't plan on making any money because I don't ever plan to sell it. This, exactly. Imagine if someone started an "investment vehicle" where you could own tiny percentages of Picassos, Rembrandts, and Degas paintings. What's the point? Frankly, the idea is so detached from the actual purpose of art that it's kind of stomach-churning to me. By the way, I've always admired that move you pulled to take down the Action 15 cover. Inspiring. It reminds me of something a friend and I have discussed. The books that I had to stretch way outside what would have been rational are the books that I'm most glad that I did. Even 10-12 years later. BarristerBaker and szav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, MrBedrock said: It's hanging in the office. 2 hours ago, Robot Man said: I don't know what you told your wife, but that would be hard to sneak into even my house... Probably a lot of stuff happening in that office she isn’t aware of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primetime Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 6 hours ago, MrBedrock said: Low grade Marvel 1's have completely disappeared from the market. I don't think they exist. Sorry Harold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Joe Ankenbauer said: Fantastic Four #1 in 9.0 alone is $260,000! How did you figure $260K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Math Teacher Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 6 hours ago, LDarkseid1 said: How did you figure $260K? I looked at the price for a 9.0 at GoCollect. On GPA, the last sale was $161,325, but that was in November, 2017. I think that it is safe to assume that the value of FF #1 has increased since November, 2017. Maybe not 100K, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Ankenbauer said: I looked at the price for a 9.0 at GoCollect. On GPA, the last sale was $161,325, but that was in November, 2017. I think that it is safe to assume that the value of FF #1 has increased since November, 2017. Maybe not 100K, though. Oh yeah that’s the problem with Gocollect, on books they don’t have recent sales on it’s just an arbitrary number. I’m not sure if they have some sort of algorithm, but either way it’s just a pure guess on their part. There’s a Fantastic Four #1 CGC 9.0 available at the moment for $245K and it’s been sitting on the sellers website for a few months now. At auction I wouldn’t be surprised if a 9.0 would sell for closer to $200K, maybe even slightly less. Truthfully, Fantastic Four #1 has softened up a bit on sales since 2017 and 2018. So now wouldn’t be the best time to let a 9.0 go at auction regardless. Best to wait until they’re entered into the MCU and hype is at an all time high. Edited July 29, 2020 by LDarkseid1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Ankenbauer said: I looked at the price for a 9.0 at GoCollect. On GPA, the last sale was $161,325, but that was in November, 2017. I think that it is safe to assume that the value of FF #1 has increased since November, 2017. Maybe not 100K, though. And GPA is wrong. The last sale, which GoCollect actually mentioned was in 2018 on ComicLink. Edited July 29, 2020 by LDarkseid1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Love Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) I understand the conference table was custom made to exactly fit rows of slabs 6 across and 10 rows deep with a little room at the end for tastey beverages on coasters of course. Cause that's how they dos it deep in the heart of Texas! Edited July 29, 2020 by Dr. Love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 You can have my answer now Senator.... I’d hold onto the FF run until a nicer looking copy of the OA to Action 15 showed up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 11 hours ago, N e r V said: Probably a lot of stuff happening in that office she isn’t aware of... Well, at least they are “social distancing”... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 2 hours ago, LDarkseid1 said: And GPA is wrong. Remember, GPA does not report CL sales since they do not get that data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBedrock Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 13 hours ago, Randall Dowling said: The books that I had to stretch way outside what would have been rational are the books that I'm most glad that I did. Even 10-12 years later. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
