Feelings on Unpublished Pages? 3 3

[GotSuperPowers?]

And a side by side with the published image, just for fun (and to save three of you from doing it).

 

[SquareChaos]

17 minutes ago, vodou said:

I love half-inked pages where the rest is still in pencil. Love 'em all day long and much more than a fully finished unpublished piece of similar content/execution.

Yep, I know many enjoy that type of thing. I don't kind pencil only work, it isn't anything necessarily to do with ink or the lack thereof. Something about unfinished work bugs me - maybe the loss of potential? I don't know. 

[malvin]

Simon's post is fitting, since I just remembered I do have another Keown unpublished fit, that is also an example of the unpublished version being worth more than the published version (like most rules, unpublished being worth less than the published versions is not absolute and there are always exceptions)

In my case it is an X-factor DPS featuring Jean Grey and Beast.  The published version is actually the same image as the unpublished, but the published used a photocopy of Keown's blue line on craft-in, while my unpublished  version has his pencils.  There is also a long story as I bough both halves of the DPS years apart:

 

CAF Link with backstory

Thanks for looking

Malvin

[Brian Peck]

6 hours ago, PhilipB2k17 said:

Speaking of Byrne, his recent “fan” X-Men story pages - all pencils - have been selling at pretty high prices. None of it’s been published. 

But that is different. They were never intended to be published. The thread started talking about pages drawn intended to be published but for some reason they never were. With the Byrne Fan Fiction  its artwork he did for himself with no intention of printing it. Since he hasn't worked for Marvel in years this is the first time new artwork has appeared on the market of Byrne drawing the classic X-Men from the early 80s. Its the high demand for this work. While the page prices seem high they are not compared to vintage X-Men published pages inked by Austin.

[PhilipB2k17]

6 hours ago, Brian Peck said:

But that is different. They were never intended to be published. The thread started talking about pages drawn intended to be published but for some reason they never were. With the Byrne Fan Fiction  its artwork he did for himself with no intention of printing it. Since he hasn't worked for Marvel in years this is the first time new artwork has appeared on the market of Byrne drawing the classic X-Men from the early 80s. Its the high demand for this work. While the page prices seem high they are not compared to vintage X-Men published pages inked by Austin.

Oh. Marvel apparently talked to Byrne about publishing them. They couldn’t work out a deal. 

[Buzzetta]

I believe I actually do have a page of unpublished art now that I think of it.

I bought what was supposed to be the cover for a GI Joe Snake Eyes comic from IDW or the cover of a TPB... either way it was never used.  It was advertised from the artist, Agustin Padilla as a cover... to this day I have no idea if or where it was ever published... it might have been scrapped at the last minute... either way... it's a great Snake Eyes... 

[BuraddoRun]

Thanks, everyone, for chiming in and sharing some of the unpublished art you have!

[hmendryk]

I have 34 pages of unpublished art in my collection. Obviously I won't show them all. One went unpublished because it was written off by DC. Two risque? By Craig Flessel no less. The Foxhole by Jack Kirby cover went unused because it the very start of the Comic Code and got rejected. Some like the Strange Worlds of Your Dream cover, also by Jack Kirby, was never even inked probably because the title got cancelled. The Ayers cover for PT-109 was never used because the project never got past 6 pages of story art.

Edited August 6, 2020 by hmendryk

[MagnusX]

This is my Unpublished page
Superman Special # 3 Page 24 
Superman vs Amazo by Irv Novick & Pablo Marcos.

I also will post the published page for comparison...

 

[BookofStrange]

Rich Buckler pencil page from proposed Spiderman/Dr Strange Crossover?

I bought this at SDCC because I loved the detailed pencils. I asked Rich about this: "This is, indeed, one of my pencil pages--it's from a graphic novel I was working on, written by Roy Thomas. Work on the project ceased when my
lawsuit against Marvel Comics commenced (a dispute over rights to Deathlok). The
lawsuit was settled, but alas the graphic novel was not meant to be."

https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=35756

 

[JadeGiant]

21 hours ago, GotSuperPowers? said:

That seems a perfect lead-in for me to contribute my example to this topic.  A mostly pencils Dale Keown Hulk 369 cover.  I've thought about getting someone to blueline ink it but never got beyond that.  Bob McLeod would be the obvious choice as he was one of the early run inkers.

If anyone has unpublished Keown Hulk pages/covers, I'd definitely be interested.  Not the pre-run stuff I'm afraid.

I love looking at this page and seeing Dale's process. Great piece!

[JadeGiant]

21 hours ago, GotSuperPowers? said:

And a side by side with the published image, just for fun (and to save three of you from doing it).

 

Do you know the backstory on this? Editor's call or Dale's?

[GotSuperPowers?]

1 hour ago, JadeGiant said:

Do you know the backstory on this? Editor's call or Dale's?

I do not, sadly.  @jjonahjameson1 may have some idea though.

[malvin]

9 minutes ago, GotSuperPowers? said:

I do not, sadly.  @jjonahjameson1 may have some idea though.

If you really want to know (and if Yoram doesn't know) a fellow collector advised me (on my JR JR Thor unused cover) to reach out to the editor to see if they remember.

Malvin

[Will_K]

My most desired unpublished pages were drawn by Nick Cardy for Teen Titans 20.  I would love to get more pages.  The story, "Titans Fit the Battle of Jericho!", was written by Marv Wolfman and Len Wein.  Nick was inking it and DC famously killed the story.  It would've introduced a black character.  DC basically had no black characters at the time.  And he likely would not become an ongoing character.  Nick laid out the story and it was already lettered.  Apparently some of the dialogue was too "over the top" for DC.  Neal Adams wrote and penciled a new story in a few days time (also famously).  Nick inked the story and I think at least one of his original pages was used.  So the art was not published.  Not because of aesthetics but due to controversy, for lack of a better word.

Teen Titans 26 introduced Mal Duncan, a non-powered teen in the ghetto who informally joined the team in that issue.  Mal was a member of the team, appearing in almost all the remaining issues until the title was cancelled at issue 43.  Then his character went through various iterations where he became the Guardian, Hornblower and Vox.

And then almost 2 years later after Teen Titans 20, John Stewart (Green Lantern) appeared. 

Here's Nick's unfinished art to page 2 and page 19.

 

Edited August 28, 2020 by Will_K

[bluechip]

6 hours ago, hmendryk said:

I have 34 pages of unpublished art in my collection. Obviously I won't show them all. One went unpublished because it was written off by DC. Two risque? By Craig Flessel no less. The Foxhole by Jack Kirby cover went unused because it the very start of the Comic Code and got rejected. Some like the Strange Worlds of Your Dream cover, also by Jack Kirby, was never even inked probably because the title got cancelled. The Ayers cover for PT-109 was never used because the project never got past 6 pages of story art.

I love unpublished art, especially from books I read.  It's like seeing an unused scene from a classic movie.  A peek into the process and choices made.  And owning it is on one level, is even cooler than the published piece because everybody's seen that and the unused things are rare and often get destroyed.   (before somebody pops a vein, he should reread where I said "on one level".  That means not all levels)

Many people agree, but it depends on the situation.  When they're offering to sell you such a piece, absolutely.  But when you're offering to sell it, none of that will apply until it changes hands, upon which all those attributes come back.    

Edited August 6, 2020 by bluechip

[thethedew]

I've posted at length about this before, but I have three issues of unpublished MICRONAUTS, from a failed attempt by Marvel to relaunch the title in 1998.

This first issue is here, you can find the other two easily enough in my gallery.

[awayne83]

I bought this Defenders #10 cover from David not long after i saw it solicited. Between then and the release, Bendis had announced his departure for DC. The series was wrapped early and this cover was replaced with what would've been the cover for an issue #11. 

So the lesson here is, the early bird may get the worm, but he might end up overpaying for it 😆. Still, love the image of Daredevil, and the cover has been archived so hopefully it may end up published elsewhere someday.

[Blastaar]

If it is priced much less then published art than my feeling is I love it! 

[Blastaar]

I bought a complete penciled unpublished story Alan Kupperbeg did for Green Lantern Quarterly for pennies on the dollar. It was cool to be the only one with the story.