Comics4All Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, god503 said: claremont and mccloud created the new mutants series Bob Claremont? Keys_Collector, Hollywood1892 and god503 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Hollywood1892 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, Comics4All said: Bob Claremont? No He did the soundtrack Comics4All and Keys_Collector 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hollywood1892 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, god503 said: claremont and mccloud created the new mutants series Makes sense then You should have got Claremont to draw a foot on it...show Liefeld a thing or two chefkv, bc, Comics4All and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
BlowUpTheMoon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Drunken Android said: Press it again...just to be safe. If necessary press it a third or fourth time. Can't be too careful Larryw7, god503 and Comics4All 3 Link to post Share on other sites
THE_BEYONDER Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Crack it again & add McCloud. Then press it again.... Hollywood1892 1 Link to post Share on other sites
god503 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said: Crack it again & add McCloud. Then press it again.... thats the plan THE_BEYONDER 1 Link to post Share on other sites
THE_BEYONDER Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 In yellow Math Teacher and hermster 2 Link to post Share on other sites
supacor Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 over 2 dozen posts and no one has anything to say about the risks of cracking a 9.8 to get signed? Larryw7, WoWitHurts and Keys_Collector 3 Link to post Share on other sites
god503 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, THE_BEYONDER said: In yellow wow good luck!!! Link to post Share on other sites
H0RR0RSH0W Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 12 hours ago, supacor said: over 2 dozen posts and no one has anything to say about the risks of cracking a 9.8 to get signed? Yep. Wanted to say something to this effect. Haven't there been lots of posts about cracked books subbed for sigs coming back lower? In some instances much lower then .2 points if I recall. CGC says...? Link to post Share on other sites
bc Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, H0RR0RSH0W said: Yep. Wanted to say something to this effect. Haven't there been lots of posts about cracked books subbed for sigs coming back lower? In some instances much lower then .2 points if I recall. CGC says...? -bc Link to post Share on other sites
Buzzetta Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, H0RR0RSH0W said: Yep. Wanted to say something to this effect. Haven't there been lots of posts about cracked books subbed for sigs coming back lower? In some instances much lower then .2 points if I recall. CGC says...? Mostly when certain signers got a hold of the books. I seem to remember that Stan Lee and a few of the senior generation just grabbed and signed. Stan's facilitators and teams were not known to be as easy on the books either. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post William-James88 Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, god503 said: just got bit by the 9.8 to 9.6.bug. A cbcs 9.8 New mutants 98 sent in for Claremont is coming back a 9.6!!!! Too many people commenting how they have tougher 9.8 criteria than CGC. I don't think this anecdotal evidence of a signing is any indication one way or another. If one wanted to see if they were more strict, they would have to send 30 CGC 9.8s to CBCS to see how they come back and send 30 CBCS 9.6s to CGC to see how they come back and infer on the results. I have seen enough complaints this past week alone to say that grade retention at a signing is absolutely not guaranteed. It is very likely your CBCS 9.8 was also a CGC 9.8 but after handling it for the signing it became a CGC 9.6. Especially if you sent it in slabbed and didn't do the window box yourself. Any extra handling will increase the chances of your grade being lowered, even if pressed afterwards. If you have a 9.8 and absolutely don't want it to lower in grade, then don't send it to a signing. Edited August 13, 2020 by William-James88 Buzzetta, jaxcomics, Krismusic and 3 others 6 Link to post Share on other sites
William-James88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 13 hours ago, supacor said: over 2 dozen posts and no one has anything to say about the risks of cracking a 9.8 to get signed? I finally wrote that long due post. This has nothing to do with CBCS vs CGC, it's all about people not knowing the risks. It takes almost nothing for a 9.8 to be a 9.6 and yet people send them out for someone else to crack a slab, pull out a book from a sealed sleeve, put it in a window box and pass it around for someone to pres a pen on. Ditch Fahrenheit, Krismusic and Hollywood1892 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
William-James88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 From the Frank Miller signing, a 9.4 came back 9.0 bc and Hollywood1892 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
god503 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Well aware of the risks. Also aware that most of the time u can't tell the difference between a 9.8 and a 9.6. My thing was a few have commented that cbcs has higher standards for a 9.8 than cgc has. Otherwise would have paid a little more for a cgc copy. Live and learn. Im sure that wont be the last time it happens to me. Link to post Share on other sites
William-James88 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, god503 said: Well aware of the risks. Also aware that most of the time u can't tell the difference between a 9.8 and a 9.6. My thing was a few have commented that cbcs has higher standards for a 9.8 than cgc has. Otherwise would have paid a little more for a cgc copy. Live and learn. Im sure that wont be the last time it happens to me. This incident is in no way an indicator of whether or not CBCS has higher standards since you forfeited those standards when you cracked the case for a signing. No way to know how this book would have faired if it was initially sent to CGC instead of CBCS. Paying more for CGC could have resulted in the same loss of grade (and thus loss of more money) Your case tells us more what can happen during a signing, not which company grades tougher. Ditch Fahrenheit and zeeto 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Hollywood1892 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, supacor said: over 2 dozen posts and no one has anything to say about the risks of cracking a 9.8 to get signed? My bad....sent a UCX 266 9.8 already signed by Andy Kubert to the Claremont signing....took a gamble...came back 9.8. Just figured that Kubert sig alone wasn't as appealing as Claremont or both Edited August 13, 2020 by Hollywood1892 Link to post Share on other sites
Hollywood1892 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 55 minutes ago, William-James88 said: I finally wrote that long due post. This has nothing to do with CBCS vs CGC, it's all about people not knowing the risks. It takes almost nothing for a 9.8 to be a 9.6 and yet people send them out for someone else to crack a slab, pull out a book from a sealed sleeve, put it in a window box and pass it around for someone to pres a pen on. Yeah Was thinking of sending my teen titans 44 9.8 to have Perez sign it, but decided against it Link to post Share on other sites
god503 Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 19 minutes ago, William-James88 said: This incident is in no way an indicator of whether or not CBCS has higher standards since you forfeited those standards when you cracked the case for a signing. No way to know how this book would have faired if it was initially sent to CGC instead of CBCS. Paying more for CGC could have resulted in the same loss of grade (and thus loss of more money) Your case tells us more what can happen during a signing, not which company grades tougher. Yet many on here have commented cbcs has higher standards. Just throwing cold water on that assumption Link to post Share on other sites
