rlextherobot Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) Looking for some advice here; years ago at a comic show in Vancouver, I purchased a prelim from James Jean, specifically for a painting he did for a movie project that never ended up happening. At the time he asked if I could not put the piece online as it he did not wish to potentially violate an NDA he signed. Now years later I'm looking at selling the piece, and having gotten the go ahead from James (via his studio manager who I contacted through his website) to post it, I'm trying to figure out the best way to sell it. Part of the issue is I have no idea what a piece like it would fetch, and there's very little market info I can find to go on. I suppose eBay and HA would be options that would likely fetch fair market value, but also I'm wondering if asking to sell/trade with a dealer is likely to net better results - the only reason I'm looking to sell is to invest in more art. Any thoughts from the kind folks here? Edited September 16, 2020 by rlextherobot Link to post Share on other sites
rlextherobot Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 Also a quick note: there's some blueline printed on the page that isn't visible in the scans, specifically a big Nazi flag in the background - I assume this was James Jean trying to figure out the composition of the piece. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Varanis Posted September 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2020 I would have to suspect sending to Heritage is the best way to sell it. It's likely a hard piece to value, so dealers will only make safe (i.e.; low) offers on it. ESeffinga, The Voord, Rick2you2 and 4 others 7 Link to post Share on other sites
vodou Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Varanis said: I would have to suspect sending to Heritage is the best way to sell it. It's likely a hard piece to value, so dealers will only make safe (i.e.; low) offers on it. Completely agree. rlextherobot and The Voord 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bird Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 interestingly, here is issue 3 of The Escapist (Based on Chabon's Kavalier & Clay) rlextherobot, Twanj and grapeape 3 Link to post Share on other sites
rlextherobot Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bird said: interestingly, here is issue 3 of The Escapist (Based on Chabon's Kavalier & Clay) Yeah! I suspect both James Jean and Mike Mignola were basing things on the description of a painting from the novel, which itself was a reference to Kirby's classic Captain America #1 cover. Link to post Share on other sites
grapeape Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Honestly prelim aside I personally would keep this piece of art in my collection. I understand the desire to get more art. Sometimes you have something special but the desire for something new dulls that realization. But this is about you. Avoid dealers for stated reasons and give it to HA. You’ll find your price. Use any Correspondence from James Jean to help describe your auction. rlextherobot 1 Link to post Share on other sites
malvin Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Isn't HA's minimum consignment 5k? I've heard others mention 10k Malvin Link to post Share on other sites
Bird Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, malvin said: Isn't HA's minimum consignment 5k? I've heard others mention 10k Malvin It certainly isn't $10K (I just gave them some stuff and a minimum never came up). I am not sure if they would take one piece, but all you have to do is ask. Maybe someone could ask at the comic art con om a few days about 1 piece? Link to post Share on other sites
glendgold Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Maybe hold onto it till the miniseries hits Showtime next year? rlextherobot, Rick2you2 and Noob19 3 Link to post Share on other sites
rlextherobot Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, glendgold said: Maybe hold onto it till the miniseries hits Showtime next year? You know, that's actually not a bad idea! Link to post Share on other sites
delekkerste Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 14 hours ago, malvin said: Isn't HA's minimum consignment 5k? I've heard others mention 10k Malvin I doubt this piece would make it into a Heritage Signature Auction at this point (the bar is set too high). It would almost surely go into one of the weeklies. Maybe that could change post-miniseries, but, frankly, I doubt it. I would think that eBay or ComicLink or private sale on CAF might all be better options at this point. I don't know if Felix (of FelixComicArt.com) takes consignments for artists that he reps, but, maybe that's a discussion worth having. Twanj, ESeffinga and rlextherobot 3 Link to post Share on other sites
pinupcartooncollector Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Would it maybe make it into the "next day" signature auction (the part of the auction without the live auctioneer and the tiny listing in the back of the catalog)? Curious if a piece would do better there versus the weekly auctions. Link to post Share on other sites
rlextherobot Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 Update: I ultimately decided to hold onto the piece for a few reasons, firstly that I realized it had some sentimental value, and secondly the lack of anything comparable being sold in recent memory made pricing it too difficult. That said, when HA put up two Jean prelims recent I tracked the auctions because I was curious what they would fetch. The Runaways cover prelim went for $4800, and the X-Men trading card prelim went for $12,600. The Escapist piece is obviously less desirable than either of those (there's no published piece of work to compare it too, the character is not super well known), but still interesting I thought. John E., grapeape and Twanj 3 Link to post Share on other sites
grapeape Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I’m glad you kept it. rlextherobot 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rlextherobot Posted January 17 Author Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, grapeape said: I’m glad you kept it. I thought a lot about what you said and you were right: sometimes you have something special, and you don't even realize it. grapeape 1 Link to post Share on other sites
grapeape Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 4 hours ago, rlextherobot said: I thought a lot about what you said and you were right: sometimes you have something special, and you don't even realize it. It’s a gorgeous piece of art. Link to post Share on other sites
BeholdersEye Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 9/16/2020 at 5:19 PM, malvin said: Isn't HA's minimum consignment 5k? I've heard others mention 10k Malvin I think the HA consignment minimum is for their "Signature Auctions" floor sessions, and it's a single piece appraisal. I'm not sure if they have a minimum submission per client, as it seems there's a shortage of quality consignments, so in competing with ComicLink, they probably waive any minimums on items that they know will sell for decent money so they can collect their approx 25% on the buyers/sellers premiums to make it worth their while. This piece I think they'd probably relegate to recommending listed on their weekly internet auctions held every Monday. It might be justified into their Signature Auction, internet session, but I doubt if they'd put it into their live auction sessions where pieces should be, at minimum in the $3-5k range in value. Link to post Share on other sites
Legion of Goom Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) On 9/16/2020 at 8:19 PM, malvin said: Isn't HA's minimum consignment 5k? I've heard others mention 10k Malvin I was told $5k in total consignments was the minimum a few weeks back when I asked them. Edited January 18 by Legion of Goom John E. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
The Voord Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 9/17/2020 at 1:07 AM, Bird said: interestingly, here is issue 3 of The Escapist (Based on Chabon's Kavalier & Clay) Guys being knocked out are pretty common place in comic-books . . . you seen one good punch, you seen 'em all, So what else is new? One Minute Later guy could clean up on these things! One Minute Later: Link to post Share on other sites
