miraclemet Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 So here we are. The experiment. Buy a color touch (C1) book, get the color touch removed and see how much of a grade drop it gets as a result. Doing this with a Sig Series book since some of the books value exists outside of the book condition but with who signed it, lets see if this helps me still come out ahead. The book in question is a CGC SS 9.0 ASM 129 with 3 signatures (Romita/Thomas/Conway) Paid $900 which seemed ok in terms of GPA. I know that it's gonna drop in grade because in order to remove the color touch they will have to scrape it off. The hope is it stays above a 6.5 which for me would be break even. silversurfer275 1 Link to post Share on other sites
miraclemet Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 Here are the before shots. silversurfer275 and Keys_Collector 2 Link to post Share on other sites
miraclemet Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 And some close up before shots . Link to post Share on other sites
MatterEaterLad Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) Did the grader's notes mention specific areas of CT? Or just "minor color touch on cover"? (Great looking book btw!) Edited September 24, 2020 by MatterEaterLad Link to post Share on other sites
buttock Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 C-1 and from the looks of it it's possible you're looking at bleedthrough. That's not removable without carving through the full thickness of the cover. Link to post Share on other sites
James J Johnson Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, buttock said: That's not removable without carving through the full thickness of the cover. Exactly. Whittle while you work ThothAmon and Angel of Death 2 Link to post Share on other sites
miraclemet Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, MatterEaterLad said: Did the grader's notes mention specific areas of CT? Or just "minor color touch on cover"? (Great looking book btw!) Just minor color touch on cover Link to post Share on other sites
miraclemet Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 2 hours ago, buttock said: C-1 and from the looks of it it's possible you're looking at bleedthrough. That's not removable without carving through the full thickness of the cover. Yeah that's the worry and the risk. If it was pro color touch i wouldnt be up at night thinking about it. Sauce Dog and ThothAmon 2 Link to post Share on other sites
joeypost Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I sent in a book with minor color touch to have it removed once...14 different areas scrapped off. It looked like bugs got at it. justafan and ThothAmon 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
comicginger1789 Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I wouldn’t go through with this experiment but if you do I’m intrigued by the results. Sauce Dog 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Old_Man_Adam Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 I’ve only knowingly purchased on book with CT - thankfully it was VERY minor ( green pen on green lantern #7 ) and it was able to be removed without dropping more than .5 pt . Much more difficult to tell extent on already slabbed books Link to post Share on other sites
MatterEaterLad Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 (edited) I've done this with an X-Men 1 and an FF 2, both with minor color touch. The CT was so small that when CCS removed it I couldn't even see where the work had been done. Both came back in the same grade, just went from purple to blue. But I've also sent a book in that was C-1 and it came back C-2, so it's definitely a roll of the dice. Good luck! Let us know how it goes. Edited September 25, 2020 by MatterEaterLad Link to post Share on other sites
Lightning55 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Following.... Link to post Share on other sites
miraclemet Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 Book should arrive on Monday.... Very curious to see how it looks and how extensive the scraping was. silversurfer275 and Professor Chaos 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BlowUpTheMoon Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Anyone remember the FF #1 that had the CT removed? silversurfer275 and The Lions Den 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
silversurfer275 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Anyone remember the FF #1 that had the CT removed? What happened? Link to post Share on other sites
comicdonna Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 It looks like a decent amount around the lower staple, and a narrow strip along the bottom of the spine. Link to post Share on other sites
BlowUpTheMoon Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 3 minutes ago, silversufer27 said: 12 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Anyone remember the FF #1 that had the CT removed? What happened? Within the last two years, someone posted in this section that they had CT removed from a FF#1. Resulted in a very odd looking book as long lines of CT was simply scrapped away, resulting in wide white lines where color should have been. Really striking before and after photos. I did a quick, lazy search and didn't find it. Anyone remember this? Link to post Share on other sites
Dick Pontoon Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Within the last two years, someone posted in this section that they had CT removed from a FF#1. Resulted in a very odd looking book as long lines of CT was simply scrapped away, resulting in wide white lines where color should have been. Really striking before and after photos. I did a quick, lazy search and didn't find it. Anyone remember this? Not the post you're referring to, but wasn't it this book? Scroll down halfway on p6. Edited September 26, 2020 by Dick Pontoon Link to post Share on other sites
BlowUpTheMoon Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 9 hours ago, Pontoon said: 9 hours ago, BlowUpTheMoon said: Within the last two years, someone posted in this section that they had CT removed from a FF#1. Resulted in a very odd looking book as long lines of CT was simply scrapped away, resulting in wide white lines where color should have been. Really striking before and after photos. I did a quick, lazy search and didn't find it. Anyone remember this? Not the post you're referring to, but wasn't it this book? Scroll down halfway on p6. Thanks for finding it. I think that's the one I am talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
