JollyComics Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I am aware of that you are not a fan of Dylan's Auctions and am not a follower of him. Not long ago after I sold Hulk copy, I got the email from Dylanauctions this morning and I scoffed. Of course, I will not reply to his egomaniac thing. Wondered if you got this message too. Here is his message: Link to post Share on other sites
DanCooper Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 It came up in one of the previous threads See telerites response half way down on page 6: https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/474431-is-dylan-still-trying-to-scam-people-with-restored-books/page/6/#comments JollyComics 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post mattn792 Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 It reads like a solicitation from a deposed Nigerian prince, only with proper spelling. MatterEaterLad, Catwomancomics, Comicshows and 6 others 2 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Northwest Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 It reminds me of the notes kids pass to one another in elementary school: "Will you be my spam friend? xoxo" mattn792 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Robot Man Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) Yeah, I got a shorter version of this the other day. Just before he blew up on the internet I was the high bidder on 3 of his auctions. I knew nothing of him when I bid. I was shocked when I received my books. One graded as 3.0 was a 2.0. OK, eBay grading... One was graded 7.0 was a 4.0! Wow, is this guy blind? Last was a 5.0. Came with a detached back cover and split top and bottom several inches. Clearly never even taken out of the bag when “graded”. Contacted him and got the curt message “send them back and check “didn’t like it”. No apology, or sorry for wasting my time. Nothing but this. A clear attempt to “play the system” to his benefit. Other than the last one I could see what I was getting and bid accordingly. I got them very cheap to “acceptable” price wise. If I were him I would have said just keep them with a full refund and a “I am very sorry” or at the least offer a partial refund. This kid is very stupid and clearly thinks he is smarter than anyone else. Maybe if he concentrated more on serving his customers better, learning to grade, and showing a little humility instead of trying to “beat the system”, he might have a career in the comic biz. A real shame that some of the younger crowd in this hobby have yet to realize this. We need new blood. Guys like this and several local Instagram “flippers”, don’t get this. Not only will I not make him a “favorite seller”, I will NEVER buy from him again. In addition, he will be soon getting 3 “unfavorable” feedbacks on his record... Edited September 27, 2020 by Robot Man DocHoppus182, ThothAmon, Wall-Crawler and 5 others 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
astrometric Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Reminds me of the wild wild west days when everyone could see everyone's ebay handle on both selling and bidding side. I would be bidding on a comic and get multiple emails from other sellers before the auction even ended. Or best was if hammer bid came in super large and caught folks off guard; the runner up bidders would be getting flooded with emails form other sellers offering same slabbed comics or toys etc. Arkham 1 Link to post Share on other sites
thehumantorch Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Robot Man said: Yeah, I got a shorter version of this the other day. Just before he blew up on the internet I was the high bidder on 3 of his auctions. I knew nothing of him when I bid. I was shocked when I received my books. One graded as 3.0 was a 2.0. OK, eBay grading... One was graded 7.0 was a 4.0! Wow, is this guy blind? Last was a 5.0. Came with a detached back cover and split top and bottom several inches. Clearly never even taken out of the bag when “graded”. Contacted him and got the curt message “send them back and check “didn’t like it”. No apology, or sorry for wasting my time. Nothing but this. A clear attempt to “play the system” to his benefit. Other than the last one I could see what I was getting and bid accordingly. I got them very cheap to “acceptable” price wise. If I were him I would have said just keep them with a full refund and a “I am very sorry” or at the least offer a partial refund. This kid is very stupid and clearly thinks he is smarter than anyone else. Maybe if he concentrated more on serving his customers better, learning to grade, and showing a little humility instead of trying to “beat the system”, he might have a career in the comic biz. A real shame that some of the younger crowd in this hobby have yet to realize this. We need new blood. Guys like this and several local Instagram “flippers”, don’t get this. Not only will I not make him a “favorite seller”, I will NEVER buy from him again. In addition, he will be soon getting 3 “unfavorable” feedbacks on his record... 22 minutes ago, Robot Man said: Yeah, I got a shorter version of this the other day. Just before he blew up on the internet I was the high bidder on 3 of his auctions. I knew nothing of him when I bid. I was shocked when I received my books. One graded as 3.0 was a 2.0. OK, eBay grading... One was graded 7.0 was a 4.0! Wow, is this guy blind? Last was a 5.0. Came with a detached back cover and split top and bottom several inches. Clearly never even taken out of the bag when “graded”. Contacted him and got the curt message “send them back and check “didn’t like it”. No apology, or sorry for wasting my time. Nothing but this. A clear attempt to “play the system” to his benefit. Other than the last one I could see what I was getting and bid accordingly. I got them very cheap to “acceptable” price wise. If I were him I would have said just keep them with a full refund and a “I am very sorry” or at the least offer a partial refund. This kid is very stupid and clearly thinks he is smarter than anyone else. Maybe if he concentrated more on serving his customers better, learning to grade, and showing a little humility instead of trying to “beat the system”, he might have a career in the comic biz. A real shame that some of the younger crowd in this hobby have yet to realize this. We need new blood. Guys like this and several local Instagram “flippers”, don’t get this. Not only will I not make him a “favorite seller”, I will NEVER buy from him again. In addition, he will be soon getting 3 “unfavorable” feedbacks on his record... 5.0? Clearly he's over grading. Clearly he's aggressive. Clearly he's taking shortcuts to make money. Edited September 27, 2020 by thehumantorch Larryw7 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mattn792 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, thehumantorch said: 5.0? Clearly he's over grading. Clearly he's aggressive. Clearly he's taking shortcuts to make money. It is a 5.0. If you’re grading on a scale from 0.5 - 100 that is. Miamiknight3434 and Angel of Death 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MatterEaterLad Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I remember an ad for a used Maserati. It was selling for $2700. I called and asked what was wrong with the vehicle and the seller immediately said, "Nothing." I was curious so I went to check it out and it had rust, body damage, and half the gears were stripped. That's how it feels every time Dylan sells a book that is ridiculously overgraded. ThothAmon and thehumantorch 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Robot Man Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Overgrading is just sloppy. He obviously sells TONS of books on ebay every month. He is playing the odds that more people won't complain and send books back. How he gets so many positives is way beyond me. Are people blind? He even get positives with "overgrading" in the comments. Are people scared to leave a neutral or a negative? What gets me the most is his calculated attitude about it. He knows exactly what he is doing. He also seems to have the support of his father. What kind of parent raises his kids that way? They seem to have no idea what ethics and common decency are. His career in this hobby will be short lived... Kevin.J, Comicshows and Larryw7 3 Link to post Share on other sites
joeypost Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 i hope you are correct about the longevity of his career, but I feel he will stick around a lot longer than anticipated. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperGrover Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I don’t understand the (age 20) and member since 2009... has he been selling since he was 9? MatterEaterLad, ThothAmon and JollyComics 3 Link to post Share on other sites
comicginger1789 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 19 minutes ago, SuperGrover said: I don’t understand the (age 20) and member since 2009... has he been selling since he was 9? I believe he is partners with his dad? Or something like that. At any rate, time catches up with poor and shoddy sellers. Sadly it usually comes after a number of people fall victim. Link to post Share on other sites
ThothAmon Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 26 minutes ago, Robot Man said: Are people blind? Normally I am very forgiving for bad grading on eBay where the item is photographed well and all defects are pictured. I checked out your 5.0 with the detached back cover on eBays sold listings and I can say he failed miserably. From the photos it is impossible to tell that the back cover is detached. BTW who paid for the return shipping? Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Robot Man Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ThothAmon said: Normally I am very forgiving for bad grading on eBay where the item is photographed well and all defects are pictured. I checked out your 5.0 with the detached back cover on eBays sold listings and I can say he failed miserably. From the photos it is impossible to tell that the back cover is detached. BTW who paid for the return shipping? He did after I filed as "not as described" instead of "didn't like it" as per his request. But I have to wrap it up and make a trip to the post office. I just left one neutral for one of the books. I am going to space the three out a bit and figure I can start his new 30 days with a new one... The WDCS was very obvious in the photo so I bid cheap accordingly. All 3 were very cheap books that I wanted as readers. Not really unhappy with the prices I paid for any of them. I just don't like being screwed over. And I really hate his trying to manipulate people and the system. Edited September 27, 2020 by Robot Man Callaway29, ThothAmon, oldmilwaukee6er and 4 others 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Northwest Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 32 minutes ago, SuperGrover said: I don’t understand the (age 20) and member since 2009... has he been selling since he was 9? Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post blazingbob Posted September 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) I am not forgiving of bad grading on ebay and frankly this is where Overstreet and the hobby have badly failed over 30+ years. NO FORMAL GRADING training available. You learn by your interpretation of badly created grading guides, lousy photography. If you are lucky enough to have the courage to ask help from others or learn from a good grader consider yourself fortunate. Most jobs, most businesses require some kind of training before you get hired or put in some kind of influence. Setting up at shows, hanging a sign off your display rack and putting out some boxes does not reflect that you KNOW ANYTHING. TOO much acceptance of GRADING IS SUBJECTIVE. No, it is not. Defects are defects. Again, get taught what they are and learn how to grade from somebody who knows how to do it and you will be successful in this business. NO REQUIREMENTS EXCEPT for a referral to become an Overstreet advisor. No meetings of these advisors, No business direction from these advisors. Market reports are mostly HYPE. Overstreet advisors should and I stress should go above and beyond to show business integrity or you get removed. The business aspect of the collectibles hobby is one where the goal is to grow the business for ALL, not line the pockets of a FEW. The more people that get ripped for short term profit the smaller the buyer pool becomes. An editor's job is not to censor but to show some guidance on what Overstreet advisor reports are reflective of the hobby or pure BS. Edited September 27, 2020 by blazingbob TheGeneral, DocHoppus182, Readcomix and 21 others 24 Link to post Share on other sites
shadroch Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 (edited) When my friend Jim Silver was briefly running Wizard, I asked him if it would be possible to have a grading seminar at some of the shows. He said he'd look into it. A week or so later I was told no, it wasn't going to happen. Edited September 27, 2020 by shadroch ThothAmon 1 Link to post Share on other sites
blazingbob Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, shadroch said: When my friend Jim Silver was briefly running Wizard, I asked him if it would be possible to have a grading seminar at some of the shows. He said he'd look into it. A week or s later I was told no, it wasn't going to happen. I've said this before. People should be paid to train others how to grade. If you (and I don't mean Shadroch) can't fathom paying to learn how to grade or to get better at something I don't know what to say. djpinkpanther67 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mattn792 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, blazingbob said: I've said this before. People should be paid to train others how to grade. If you (and I don't mean Shadroch) can't fathom paying to learn how to grade or to get better at something I don't know what to say. In this case, it’s easy money over integrity. Dylan clearly does enough business with CGC that he could take a few minutes to look over his plethora slabs to bring his grading more into alignment with industry standards. But it’s quicker, and likely more profitable, to deceive customers with overinflated grades and hope they don’t notice. Link to post Share on other sites
