JDubeCT Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I am ONLY considering this because CGC doesn’t authenticate signatures.. I have a complete Dynamic Forces set of Venom Funeral Pyre that are in really good shape... Tom Lyle 866/2500 with COA... do I CGC green label or CBCS and have it authenticated too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, JDubeCT said: I am ONLY considering this because CGC doesn’t authenticate signatures.. I have a complete Dynamic Forces set of Venom Funeral Pyre that are in really good shape... Tom Lyle 866/2500 with COA... do I CGC green label or CBCS and have it authenticated too? no one will hate you either way I think. But its honestly quite subjective based on what your goals and preferences (with regards to both profit and risk) are. BUT I will say this, if you are not absolutely sure they are 100% flawless comics that you will get guaranteed 9.8's on (no matter who is grading), THERE IS ZERO CHANCE IT WILL BE WORTH IT FINANCIALLY, although it still may fit your collection or personal goals. But for the rest of it, do your research on ebay (sold copies work best) and see if you can find other comics that are CBCS Signature Verified vs CGC green label for the same grade and see which prices line up with your preferences. Of course you have to factor in your costs too, as well as turnaround time, opportunity cost, shipping, insurance, expected grade probabilities, etc. And then see if either of those options (or not grading at all) gets you closer to your desired results. You may need to factor in selling costs/time/venue as well, possibly including fees and taxes. Good luck. Keys_Collector, Will96 and Arkham 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 (edited) Would you go on a McDonalds sponsored forum and ask what is good at Jack in the Box? Edited September 28, 2020 by shadroch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 7 hours ago, shadroch said: Would you go on a McDonalds sponsored forum and ask what is good at Jack in the Box? Hey Shad! Honestly, CGC has allowed so many anti-CBCS posts to linger here in spite of their years old stating that any mention of CBCS would be wiped. So why not go to Mickey D to see what's good at Jack? If CGC allows mention of CBCS in a negative light as often as they do, they should danged well allow any talk about them...or stick to their word and do a thorough housecleaning of all CBCS related posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PovertyRow Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 6 hours ago, Slab Bulkhead said: Don't waste your money. 8 posts in. *I* am convinced! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 I find no value in CBCS' "verification". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 1 hour ago, theCapraAegagrus said: I find no value in CBCS' "verification". And neither do the vast majority of collectors.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys_Collector Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 Tom Lyle is the greatest comic book artist of all time. Send them in to CGC AND CBCS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 16 hours ago, JDubeCT said: I am ONLY considering this because CGC doesn’t authenticate signatures.. I have a complete Dynamic Forces set of Venom Funeral Pyre that are in really good shape... Tom Lyle 866/2500 with COA... do I CGC green label or CBCS and have it authenticated too? Look at the prices they are selling for on eBay. My guess is that you will be wasting your $$$ even if they are 9.8 as the profit margin will be the same as selling them raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Keys_Collector said: Tom Lyle is the greatest comic book artist of all time. Send them in to CGC AND CBCS! Second greatest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubeCT Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 I was looking to slab for preservation more than anything but was also not looking to kill the value... not that there is much... it’s part of my personal collection along with an AMS 101, 300, 316, 361... and so on LOL... it’s more just trying to figure if the green label hurts the value more than a cbcs would.. I don’t like cbcs at all just the verify thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, JDubeCT said: I was looking to slab for preservation more than anything but was also not looking to kill the value... not that there is much... it’s part of my personal collection along with an AMS 101, 300, 316, 361... and so on LOL... it’s more just trying to figure if the green label hurts the value more than a cbcs would.. I don’t like cbcs at all just the verify thing nothing wrong with preservation, but then maybe an acid free backing board with a high quality mylar might be just as good (and much cheaper than slabbing). Others can probably and probably will chip in with more specific instructions or ideas. Turnando and namisgr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 how do you feel about newton rings? CGC is lightyears ahead of it's competition in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William-James88 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, JDubeCT said: I was looking to slab for preservation more than anything That's a terrible reason to send it in. If it's for preservation, then you have your answer, don't send it. There are archival materials to store your comic in that are better (like mylars or mylytes) and you won't risk any snafus during shipping. theCapraAegagrus and namisgr 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 29 minutes ago, William-James88 said: 1 hour ago, JDubeCT said: I was looking to slab for preservation more than anything That's a terrible reason to send it in. If it's for preservation, then you have your answer, don't send it. There are archival materials to store your comic in that are better (like mylars or mylytes) and you won't risk any snafus during shipping. Exactly. One of the things that irritates me most about what the practice of slabbing has wrought is the misbelief that sticking it in a slab is the epitome of preservation. It isn't. Ideal paper storage environmental conditions will do far more for collectors in the long run than a plastic slab will. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joosh Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 CBCS verified signature will cost significantly more than Qualified CGC label, and if it’s not a clean typical sig it may not be verifiable, even if it is authentic. Unless the signature’s verification adds more than $50 in sale value, I wouldn’t bother. Jack Kirby sig would be worth it, Tom Lyle, probably not. I use both CGC and CBCS depending on a multitude of factors; they each have their quirks. Unless I’m a paid spokesperson I see no incentive to hate on one or the other. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Joosh said: CBCS verified signature will cost significantly more than Qualified CGC label, and if it’s not a clean typical sig it may not be verifiable, even if it is authentic. Unless the signature’s verification adds more than $50 in sale value, I wouldn’t bother. Jack Kirby sig would be worth it, Tom Lyle, probably not. I use both CGC and CBCS depending on a multitude of factors; they each have their quirks. Unless I’m a paid spokesperson I see no incentive to hate on one or the other. Go to PGX, where you belong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joosh Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 5 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Go to PGX, where you belong! Eww gross! PGX deserves every bit of thrown its way. Boooooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
