Pantodude Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Was it graded too low or too high? Inquiring minds want to know! Here is the pix of the book (in a slab). What do you think is the appropriate technical grade for this book? For what it's worth, assume the book was not pressed. There will be a grade reveal in a day or two. Just to make sure all potentially important things are considered, there appear to be the following non-color-breaking printer creases (see the close-up pix): (1) on the top-right front cover, the line over "THRILLS" and the line under "The Joker"; and (2) on the left-mid back cover, the line over "Amazing 4 Way". If I am mistaken about one or all three being printer creases, please let me know when you comment. Edited October 10, 2020 by Pantodude 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted October 8, 2020 Author Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) There now should be four pix above. Also, please let me know if it would be appropriate to disclose the identity of the slabber (assuming it was not CGC) with the grade reveal, in case the overwhelming consensus is that the book was misgraded. Edited October 8, 2020 by Pantodude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silversurfer275 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 6.0 but Im not very good with golden age so could be wrong Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8.0 Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1.5 to 10.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7.0 is my guess. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Galen130 said: 1.5 to 10.0. Okay, playtime is over. Now give me a serious evaluation. Or Hulk smash! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 9.2 Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csaag Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7.5 Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen130 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Pantodude said: Okay, playtime is over. Now give me a serious evaluation. Or Hulk smash! 8.0 Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7.5 Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conan09279 Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 8.0 Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 looks nice and in the Fine/VF range FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Thanks for everyone's estimates. Leaving out the outliers, looks like the consensus is 7.5-8.0, closer to 8.0. The book was graded 7.0. Perhaps not woefully undergraded, but enough to suggest that this non-CGC grader lacked either experience with Golden Age books, experience with printer creases (i.e., should not have discounted for them), or both. A potential reason for sticking with CGC for older books? If any of you counted the printer creases to lower the technical grade, and assuming that is a no-no here, could you be so kind to restate your estimate of the technical grade without that deduction? Edited October 10, 2020 by Pantodude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Interesting... I still believe the book is a 7.5 all day with a max of 8.0 on a good day based of course only on the FC/BC. The 1 inch crease lower right FC alone brings it down to an 8.0 imo. Factor in the the other minor defects for a .5 deduction and voila, 7.5 its a really nice copy nonetheless, however, I would consider taking my chances by resubmitting a book of this caliber Thanks and good luck Edited October 10, 2020 by Funnybooks Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted October 10, 2020 Author Share Posted October 10, 2020 Just now, Funnybooks said: Interesting... I still believe the book is a 7.5 all day with a max of 8.0 on a good day based of course only on the FC/BC. The 1 inch crease lower right FC alone brings it done to an 8.0 imo. Factor in the the other minor defects for a .5 deduction and voila, 7.5 its a really nice copy nonetheless, however, I would consider taking my chances by resubmitting a book of this caliber Thanks and good luck Ah. But that lower right front corner crease is less than 3/4", so I figured possibly max of 9.0, or 8.5 since less than an inch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Pantodude said: Ah. But that lower right front corner crease is less than 3/4", so I figured possibly max of 9.0, or 8.5 since less than an inch? That’s fair A crease less than 1 inch... on a very good day, I can envision a grade as high as 8.5 but I would find it very difficult to grade it 9.0 I’ll stick with 7.5/good chance at 8.0 Edited October 10, 2020 by Funnybooks Pantodude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 I hate to agree with "the other company", but I was thinking 7.0 Regardless great book! Classic cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, KCOComics said: I hate to agree with "the other company", but I was thinking 7.0 Regardless great book! Classic cover! Agreed. After pouring over hi-res pix of this issue on Heritage, ComicLink, anywhere really, this appears to be a great looking 7.0. That is why I wondered whether the grader evaluated this book as if it were a BA or SA book, or perhaps didn't know how to addess printer creases. Edited October 11, 2020 by Pantodude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantodude Posted October 11, 2020 Author Share Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Interestingly, this issue varies significantly from book to book with respect to how well the inking remains within its designated areas, like Joker's eyebrows (on some books yellow eyebrows), eyes (on some books blue from eyelid extends to white of eyes), and mouth (red and even yellow encroaches face), and Batman's body (some migrating yellows and blues). On some books, the red and/or yellow encroaches quite a bit into the white text area of "The Joker in 'Batman's Arabian Nights.'" I also noticed that this issue often has the staples going through the front cover along the left edge, which are visible from the front cover. Normal for GA, I expect. Luckily, this book's staples are centered on the spine, which helps the eye appeal a bit too. This all just reminds me that sometimes old-school, in-hand evaluations remain worthwhile in this virtual marketplace, if one has the time and opportunity. Makes me appreciate the sellers who allow for returns on slabs. Edited October 11, 2020 by Pantodude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
