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This would be especially helpful for establishing the provenance of non-published work like commissions. Unfortunately many collectors are a secretive lot and don't want their treasures publicly documented like that.

I would imagine that the busiest dealers maintain their own databases on all auction results, probably with private notations about behind-the-scenes happenings like dealers "buying" their own pieces and the like. Knowledge is power! It would be nice if that information were publicly available like house sales are, but it wouldn't be in the best interests of the database owners to do that.

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Thanks Lee, I really appreciate your efforts!    I agree with vodou that $350 was a strong ask for the She-Hulk cover in 1992.  I picked up a slew of various covers in 1995 for $10-20 apiece.  Granted, I may have been right place, right time, but still... 

This cover will blow away the $350 number, and continue the upward trends, in my opinion.

David

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...Just don't include screenshots from all the Dealer Websites who mark items as "Sold" when they consign them to HA.

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The call answered!! Lee your tireless archive work is so appreciated. Great topic. 

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On 10/9/2020 at 9:41 AM, vodou said:

$350 in 1992 from Horvitz - STRONG ask for the era. Not even actual "Hulk"!

Sold at HA in 2015 for $5.5K...a STRONG result 

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1 hour ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Sold at HA in 2015 for $5.5K...a STRONG result 

Nice catch!

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50 minutes ago, aokartman said:

Nice catch!

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This cover is giving me The Boys S2 E6 vibes. 

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4 hours ago, jjonahjameson11 said:

Sold at HA in 2015 for $5.5K...a STRONG result 

Nearly 15 years to get 15x...WEAK ROI ;)

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1 hour ago, vodou said:

Nearly 15 years to get 15x...WEAK ROI ;)

But, if you were just buying on a whim, it is a good place to be.

Some people had $350 to burn then just like others have $35,000 now.

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Just now, aokartman said:

But, if you were just buying on a whim, it is a good place to be.

Some people had $350 to burn then just like others have $35,000 now.

Only pointed it out because the opportunity cost was pretty high, and born out true by the decades that have followed.

IF you were committed to OA for $350...why not a 70s Trimpe Hulk cover? Same price. And much better ROI.

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1 hour ago, vodou said:

Nearly 15 years to get 15x...WEAK ROI ;)

Nearly 25 years!   92 to 05..  or am I missing something

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9 hours ago, Bronty said:

Nearly 25 years!   92 to 05..  or am I missing something

You're only missing that my eyesight is just that bad! I saw 2005 lol and would have placed a sizeable bet on it too if such had been proferred :(

Nearly 25 years...truly awful ROI :)

That's not a statement about 2015 purchase price, but rather, again, the aggressiveness of the 1992 Horvitz price.

Hey, maybe @Lee B. will share with us what else the "vintage cover market" was offering for around $350 or less then too...the "alternatives"?

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Actually, I'll just do it :)

From January 1993:

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Conclusion: So many GREAT options for LESS and a JB Subby for SAME. Keown Shulkie...too much ;)

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Agreed.   Cool cover though. And still better then spending 350 on x force 1’s

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1 hour ago, vodou said:

Actually, I'll just do it :)

From January 1993:

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Conclusion: So many GREAT options for LESS and a JB Subby for SAME. Keown Shulkie...too much ;)

Nice work Vodou!  Just to clarify, the December 1992 ad was from TriState (Hans K.), not Horvitz.  In the very same ad, you also had these covers, one of which (at least) was similarly aggressively priced:

http://www.comicartads.com/content/ghost-rider-9-cover

http://www.comicartads.com/content/what-if-24-cover

And here's a few more covers offered in December 1992 from other sellers (mostly Ike Wilson):

http://www.comicartads.com/content/classic-x-men-27-cover

http://www.comicartads.com/content/captain-america-108-cover

http://www.comicartads.com/content/amazing-adventures-6-cover

http://www.comicartads.com/content/nick-fury-agent-shield-3-cover

Another other bargains or bad investments?  Kirby v. Kaluta?  Cheers, Lee

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47 minutes ago, Lee B. said:

Just to clarify, the December 1992 ad was from TriState (Hans K.), not Horvitz. 

Thanks. My attention to detail is really bad these days, evidence being my posts the last two days lol

Perhaps Life is telling me: it's time to retire from public life...oh wait, I already have :)

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57 minutes ago, Bronty said:

Agreed.   Cool cover though. And still better then spending 350 on x force 1’s

That's exactly what I was doing at the time, I'd opened a Diamond account and was buying cases of "hot" new comics for 45% off cover (iirc) and flipping them for 10x cover :):):):)lol  at local monthly conventions!

I did get stuck with a lot, but the early profits more than covered the unsolds (which I still have today :( ) and bought me a nice (not cherry though) '74 Corvette too.

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2 hours ago, Lee B. said:

And here's a few more covers offered in December 1992 from other sellers (mostly Ike Wilson):

http://www.comicartads.com/content/captain-america-108-cover

 

I think that cover didn't sell then, as it ended up in the summer 1993 Sotheby's auction.  I want to say it went for $1800 there, but I don't have my catalogue in front of me.

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