Should I get an older graded comic regraded ? 1 1

[Colin Nash]

I have a Silver Age comic Silver Surfer #4 in cgc 8.5. I bought it last year. It is in an old holder and from grader notes, it was first pressed and graded in 2003.

The comic however, does not look flat. A bit wavy you might say. Should I send it off to be repressed and regraded OR just reholdered?  Any advice would be most welcome.

I was also thinking of sending off 2 special 2019 comics for grading that are unread and NM/M. Should I get them graded with, or without pressing ?

Thank you,

Colin

 

[KCOComics]

Pictures and graders notes will help. 

I think these decisions are really specific to the book. There isn't a universal consensus that all books graded before a certain date should be cracked, pressed and resubmitted. 

[shadroch]

The grader notes say it was pressed in 2003? Iv'e never seen anything like that. Something is wrong here.

[Colin Nash]

Hi Shadroch, I have 'assumed' it was pressed at the time it was first graded. Grader notes just confirm it was graded. They don't say anything about wavy pages, but they wouldn't necessaily comment on this, so I understand from CGC.

[KCOComics]

2 hours ago, Colin Nash said:

Hi Shadroch, I have 'assumed' it was pressed at the time it was first graded. Grader notes just confirm it was graded. They don't say anything about wavy pages, but they wouldn't necessaily comment on this, so I understand from CGC.

Pressing existed in those days, but it wasn't very common like it is today. 

I suspect it wasn't pressed. Especially if your seeing "pressable" defects. 

 

As an aside, I can't believe I refereed to 2003 as "those days"....  it feels like 2003 should still be these days...  

[Colin Nash]

Thanks KCO, you may have hit the nail on the head. It may not have been pressed at all. Something I hadn't even considered.

Your right about the passage of time though, its freaky.

Colin

[The Lions Den]

6 hours ago, Colin Nash said:

The comic however, does not look flat. A bit wavy you might say. Should I send it off to be repressed and regraded OR just reholdered?  Any advice would be most welcome.

Does the waviness appear to have affected the grade? Or can you see other minor defects that brought the book down to an 8.5..?

[theCapraAegagrus]

I have to ask... If it's wavy, why would you assume that it was pressed...?

[Colin Nash]

The comic looks in fine condition overall. Can't see any adverse defects or marks on the cover, but the back has a few small faint stains/grubbiness near the top possibly due to some previous foxing ? Otherwise a tidy sharp cornered and edged copy. 

I did obtain the grading notes and they were silent on the "flatness" of the comic.

The waviness isn't excessive but noticeable. I'm going on the Overstreet grading guide book which says, an 8.5 should be "nearly flat". I'm not sure what that looks like in reality, but I assume it doesn't mean wavy ?

Anyway, I've attached some picks. Blue dots are high areas and red dots low areas.

[theCapraAegagrus]

38 minutes ago, Colin Nash said:

The comic looks in fine condition overall. Can't see any adverse defects or marks on the cover, but the back has a few small faint stains/grubbiness near the top possibly due to some previous foxing ? Otherwise a tidy sharp cornered and edged copy. 

I did obtain the grading notes and they were silent on the "flatness" of the comic.

The waviness isn't excessive but noticeable. I'm going on the Overstreet grading guide book which says, an 8.5 should be "nearly flat". I'm not sure what that looks like in reality, but I assume it doesn't mean wavy ?

Anyway, I've attached some picks. Blue dots are high areas and red dots low areas.

That's the "Creep Engine" slab, so chances are, that the comic was flat prior to encapsulation.

If it's financially (or sentimentally) worth it, get it pressed and re-graded.

[Pantodude]

Hi.  For what it's worth, I recall recently reading somewhere that early issues of Silver Surfer, including SS#4, came a bit wavy right off the printing press, for whatever reason.  I also recall reading elsewhere that certain earlier CGC slabs (which I think the fellow alluded to above) were a bit tight with the inner well, which resulted in an apparent waviness that disappeared once the book was removed from the inner well (either immediately or after a few days).   But hopefully more experienced folks could chime in and confirm either or both.   

Edited October 24, 2020 by Pantodude

[joeypost]

Many square bound books exhibit waviness in the holder. I have seen a lot of nice high grade (9.4/9.6) with waves. Not unusual.