Microchip Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Legion HQ said: I thought the same thing bidding on them. What are the graders seeing that I'm not?? Are the back covers bent in half? Those books present REALLY well from the front. A lot of other books did too in the auction, so I'm not sure what's going on with these graders lately. I've noticed it on my own submissions this past year as well. Very tight grading of late imo. I hear you loud and clear there. I bought a few, but also got the cheapest book, House of Mystery #290 CGC 6.5 for $25. I was just staggered looking at it. There was some huge prices for the Star Wars books, and any black costume spidey's, but the $971 for the Shazam #28 (1977, DC, 2nd Black Adam appearance (1st since Golden Age)) was entirely lost on me. Is there a hard to find book or something? Two bidders gone crazy??? icp004, mec3437, onlyweaknesskryptonite and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKJ Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 57 minutes ago, Legion HQ said: I thought the same thing bidding on them. What are the graders seeing that I'm not?? Are the back covers bent in half? Those books present REALLY well from the front. A lot of other books did too in the auction, so I'm not sure what's going on with these graders lately. I've noticed it on my own submissions this past year as well. Very tight grading of late imo. Agree I actually was just commenting on your FB post since I was checking that GI joe 21 out, I thought it looked amazing for a 9.0. Nice snag. Phillip Legion HQ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawnfreak Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 9 hours ago, Legion HQ said: I thought the same thing bidding on them. What are the graders seeing that I'm not?? Are the back covers bent in half? Those books present REALLY well from the front. A lot of other books did too in the auction, so I'm not sure what's going on with these graders lately. I've noticed it on my own submissions this past year as well. Very tight grading of late imo. Tight grading....should I wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microchip Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, Spawnfreak said: Tight grading....should I wait? There are a few that go the other way.... there's a prize for the most errors found Edited February 6, 2021 by Microchip John E. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawnfreak Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 11 hours ago, Microchip said: There are a few that go the other way.... there's a prize for the most errors found I got up to 10 color breaks, and quit. Microchip and Ballymore3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Spawnfreak said: I got up to 10 color breaks, and quit. See, this is why I won't send my raws in for grading. The best examples of wonky grading come in the form of Green Lantern 76. See if you can find examples on ebay where we absolutely agree with the grading. I have seen 9.6's that are 9.0 TOPS. In fact some 8.5's look better. I'd be furious if my actual 9.8 came back as a 7.0. Microchip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 No way I'm spending 10G's on this. In my neck of the woods, that's a staple pull or the beginning of one. I would have given it 9.2-9.4 Microchip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKJ Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Microchip said: There are a few that go the other way.... there's a prize for the most errors found My guess is the actual book that should be in that slab was a 9.8. After that all bets are off. Edited February 6, 2021 by PKJ onlyweaknesskryptonite 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKJ Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) Two things I look for at shows after keys or must haves are MJ inserts and Dec 1973 books. Always makes for a more interesting hunt at shows while everyone else is chasing the flavor of the month. The Dec 73 books get to rotate on one of the spinners. Edited February 6, 2021 by PKJ hamiltonnathan and icp004 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ADAMANTIUM Posted February 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 6, 2021 I picked this up today for $1.50 icp004, hamiltonnathan, Otter1775 and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 A very nice pick-up, regardless . . . . ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, divad said: A very nice pick-up, regardless . . . . Ya the $1.50 part is just cause I'm astounded Hasn't ever happened at this rate for me I found another posted in garage sale thread, today just turned out to be a blessing all around, I even found some national lampoon's and mads that are classic, for $3 a piece, just super thankful as I'm cash poor at the moment.... And thank you! I for sure didn't see it coming at all haha Edited February 6, 2021 by ADAMANTIUM divad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 5 hours ago, PKJ said: 20 hours ago, Microchip said: There are a few that go the other way.... there's a prize for the most errors found Expand My guess is the actual book that should be in that slab was a 9.8. After that all bets are off. Why that's a "pushme-pullyou" . . . "Never seen anything like it in my life!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
followtheleader Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 On 11/21/2020 at 12:25 PM, jmt999 said: I've got New Mutants 87 and 98, ASM 135(second Punisher), Avengers 257(first nebula), X-men 142 and ASM 316 all Mark Jewelers. I'll see if I can get some pics at some point. Wish some of them had been key issues. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comic_memories Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 I'm sure its been asked before but is CGC keeping a database for the copies they grade with M.J. inserts? At this point it must be getting extensive if they are. Microchip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microchip Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 14 hours ago, comic_memories said: I'm sure its been asked before but is CGC keeping a database for the copies they grade with M.J. inserts? At this point it must be getting extensive if they are. And then the next question would be addressed to Valiantman, to see if his database can separate them out. comic_memories 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 14 hours ago, Microchip said: And then the next question would be addressed to Valiantman, to see if his database can separate them out. It can't, because all he does is present the CGC Census data in different ways. The Census does not have information on inserts, signatures, reasons for qualified grades, etc. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microchip Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 44 minutes ago, Lazyboy said: It can't, because all he does is present the CGC Census data in different ways. The Census does not have information on inserts, signatures, reasons for qualified grades, etc. The Canadian editions are plait out, so I'm curious to hear from him on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, Microchip said: The Canadian editions are plait out, so I'm curious to hear from him on this one. Those have separate entries in the Census, despite the significant mislabeling problems CGC has with individual copies. @valiantman can tell you the same thing that I did in my previous post. Parabellum and Microchip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post valiantman Posted February 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) The CGC Census does not separate Mark Jewelers books from non-MJ. The label can mention MJ without it being in the CGC Census. This is the same as a CGC blue label clearly specifying that a book is signed inside ("Name written on interior cover in marker"), but the CGC Census just counts it like any other blue label. "From the Collection of..." is another example that isn't in the CGC Census. More specifically, all the notes in that location on the CGC label (directly beneath the publisher and date) never get shown in the CGC Census (there's no census info on page color, no census info on serial numbers). When books are listed as Newsstand (or, in this example, "Second Printing"), that notation is in a different location on the CGC label, and the underlying field stored in the database is also listed in the CGC Census. CGC would have to make the decision to "upgrade" the "Mark Jewelers insert" notation to the database's "variant field" (where they currently store "Second Printing", "35-cent Price Variant", "Sketch Cover", etc.), rather than the current database field and label location which appears to be specific to only one book at a time - and like the CGC serial number itself - isn't part of the CGC Census info. Edited February 8, 2021 by valiantman Readcomix, Lazyboy, ADAMANTIUM and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
