BigLeagueCHEW Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 If..... Manufactured without the tatz, will CGC give this a Blue label, or Green? Do manufactured defects always come in as Green? ASM 238 Double Cover Link to post Share on other sites
Hollywood1892 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, BigLeagueCHEW said: If..... Manufactured without the tatz, will CGC give this a Blue label, or Green? Do manufactured defects always come in as Green? ASM 238 Double Cover My best guess is green, the reason I say that is it is a manufacturing defect. I've seen certain transformer issues without the staples always come back green. This is confusing to me because Bindary defects don't receive green labels and as a matter of fact CGC ignores them during the grading process Link to post Share on other sites
JazzMan Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Green all day. Link to post Share on other sites
Angel of Death Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 *bindery Link to post Share on other sites
Angel of Death Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Don't be fooled; There's a massive difference between a common MFG defect (Universal) and a manufacturing error (Qualified). The Lions Den and BigLeagueCHEW 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffro. Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Hi, longtime listener, first time caller. Love the show but I have a question. How do we know it's a manufacturing error and the tats weren't removed after the fact? Any way to prove one way or the other? Seems to me that would make a difference. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen for the answer. Angel of Death 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MR SigS Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 35 minutes ago, Jeffro. said: Hi, longtime listener, first time caller. Love the show but I have a question. How do we know it's a manufacturing error and the tats weren't removed after the fact? Any way to prove one way or the other? Seems to me that would make a difference. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen for the answer. Maybe the seller means it wasn't included when he purchased the book. The Lions Den 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigLeagueCHEW Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Jeffro. said: Hi, longtime listener, first time caller. Love the show but I have a question. How do we know it's a manufacturing error and the tats weren't removed after the fact? Any way to prove one way or the other? Seems to me that would make a difference. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen for the answer. I wonder if the upper part of the book would have a loose staple from the gap of missing tatz insert, or show signs of overlay from that missing section where it pressed into the surrounding pages? Link to post Share on other sites
James J Johnson Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 10 hours ago, Jeffro. said: Hi, longtime listener, first time caller. Jeffro. and Angel of Death 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
telerites Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Considering who the seller is, I wouldn't be surprised if it was assembled to appear unique. Look at the X-Men double cover on the last page of this one of many threads about all_things_comics. Link to post Share on other sites
marvelmaniac Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I cannot find anything concrete to determine if all or only some ASM 238's came with Tatooz even though they apparently all say "Tatooz Included" on the cover. . If they were never there from the beginning why would the book not receive a Blue label? Link to post Share on other sites
ADAMANTIUM Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, marvelmaniac said: I cannot find anything concrete to determine if all or only some ASM 238's came with Tatooz even though they apparently all say "Tatooz Included" on the cover. . If they were never there from the beginning why would the book not receive a Blue label? because it's a manufacturing error, those if not all, get green Manufacturing means it's intended to contain to my knowledge, so maybe it is "incomplete", and I know CGC gives "incomplete" a green label BigLeagueCHEW and The Lions Den 2 Link to post Share on other sites
BigLeagueCHEW Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 3 hours ago, telerites said: Considering who the seller is, I wouldn't be surprised if it was assembled to appear unique. Look at the X-Men double cover on the last page of this one of many threads about all_things_comics. Odd that you said this, now the listing was removed? Link to post Share on other sites
The Lions Den Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 11:53 AM, theCapraAegagrus said: Don't be fooled; There's a massive difference between a common MFG defect (Universal) and a manufacturing error (Qualified). Link to post Share on other sites
ADAMANTIUM Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I'm curious if it can be looked at this way IF it's supposed to contain something and doesn't it's incomplete and green label but IF it is is something added or extra, but the initial production pieces are all still there, there is just more, it would be blue and noted on the label perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites
The Lions Den Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/19/2020 at 12:29 PM, Jeffro. said: Hi, longtime listener, first time caller. Love the show but I have a question. How do we know it's a manufacturing error and the tats weren't removed after the fact? Any way to prove one way or the other? Seems to me that would make a difference. Thanks. I'll hang up and listen for the answer. It's not uncommon for the tats to be missing from this book. A green label is the usual result... Link to post Share on other sites
The Lions Den Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said: I'm curious if it can be looked at this way IF it's supposed to contain something and doesn't it's incomplete and green label but IF it is is something added or extra, but the initial production pieces are all still there, there is just more, it would be blue and noted on the label perhaps? Perhaps... ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to post Share on other sites
telerites Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, BigLeagueCHEW said: Odd that you said this, now the listing was removed? If you're talking about the book(s) in the thread I posted, remember it is from 2012; but there have been numerous threads about the seller and all that I remember, none have been positive. Edited November 20, 2020 by telerites Link to post Share on other sites
BigLeagueCHEW Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, telerites said: If you're talking about the book(s) in the thread I posted, remember it is from 2012; but there have been numerous threads about the seller and all that I remember, none have been positive. The eBay listing I meant. Link to post Share on other sites
James J Johnson Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 7 hours ago, BigLeagueCHEW said: Odd that you said this, now the listing was removed? That was it The case cracker! Link to post Share on other sites
