Plan of attack for collecting it all?
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5 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said:

plan of attack  "Operation Barbarossa"

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That one failed miserably, though.

Overlord would’ve been better.

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7 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said:

That one failed miserably, though.

yes but it is a good comparison ... Russia was too big to conquer it all....to even attempt it was a huge mistake...  it is the same to try and conquer and acquire all the comics

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i have heard of multiple advanced card collectors who owned every single Topps card ... but that one is actually doable as most all  are readily available,,, no card equivalent of any Gerber type 8's 9's or 10's that i am aware of..

not so doable with comic books

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31 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said:

plan of attack  "Operation Barbarossa"

Operation Barbarossa Map

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9 hours ago, 1950's war comics said:

yes but it is a good comparison ... Russia was too big to conquer it all....to even attempt it was a huge mistake...  it is the same to try and conquer and acquire all the comics

You are absolutely right.

I was thinking more ‘glass half-full’, a grinding, difficult campaign with a positive outcome.

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7 minutes ago, FineCollector said:

My collection is 60+ longs (plus some Bowen minibusts pictured).  I like the books I have, and few are unrelated to anything else in the collection.  Everything is ordered, boxes are labelled, the collection is documented in CLZ.  I take great joy going through my collection, and have no difficulty finding anything.

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Are they all slabs, raw or mixed?

Still cool! Glad they're what you want!

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FineCollector said

Everything is ordered, boxes are labelled, the collection is documented in CLZ. I take great joy going through my collection and have no difficulty finding anything.

My collection is totally random. Only 3 boxes out of 100 are labelled. Any box is likely to contain comics from numerous Publishers and different decades.  i have started and aborted cataloguing in CLZ three times already. I take great joy in opening a random box and going through some comics I'd forgotten I owned. I have so much difficulty in finding any particular comic that if I have a sudden urge to read a comic I own I often end up buying another copy on eBay. Saying that I do have many many shelves with easier access. Mike, featured earlier in this thread has kept copious lists of every comic ever purchased including where and when. 

 

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On 11/19/2020 at 5:14 PM, F For Fake said:

I'm not sure I'd be buying keys at all these days, as I don't see how the prices can stay where they're currently at. That being said, I could be totally wrong, and today's "insane" prices may prove a bargain in the long run. But as more folks age out, retire, die off, etc, we'll see more collections coming up for sale, and fewer buyers wanting them.

Howdy.  I am bored, so please indulge my long-winded 2c.  I respectfully disagree because it depends on the underlying assumptions.  :preach:

You refer to collections coming up for sale as traditional collector's retire, and you fear that insuffient buyers will remain to gobble up the increased supply, resulting in lower prices.  Fair concern, except I would not assume that potential buyers are limited to traditional collectors defined as folks who buy only what they enjoyed reading in their youth. I primarily enjoy GA and SA goodies in my PC, with some BA sprinkled in, despite not having been lucky enough to read many of them in my youth.  Why?  Because of pride of ownership of books that helped shape current pop culture or are otherwise cool to have in hand.   I am sure a bunch of folks also collect books because of the art, stories, characters, whether or not they read the books in their youth, because they remain cool to read/appreciate.   :cloud9:  For all we know, this group could outnumber traditional collectors some day enough to gobble up any increase in supply, even assuming general population increases aren't enough.

Indeed, we have yet to see a dip in values for the main GA categories or any of the SA superhero titles, despite most collectors today being too young to have enjoyed those books in their youth.  One reason could be that Disney/Marvel and DC have maintained the popularity of vintage comic book heroes/villains/stories/art through movies, books, cartoons, etc.   And/or folks could be appreciating history more, particulary as it relates to current pop culture, and comic books are a cool way to do that.  Because all of these folks expand the concept of traditional collector, supply might not keep up with future demand, rather than the other way around.  (thumbsu

I would also not assume that potential buyers are limited to traditional collectors or even collectors in general.  Whether or not younger folks apprectiate GA/SA/BA books for artistic or nostaligic purposes as did prior generations, more and more folks of all ages seek out these books for investment.  Due to the maturing of the market for vintage comic books, they have been legit liquid assets for two decades now, increasingly so ever since the advent of slabbing, eBay, and other online auction sites allowing for quick/easy sales.  This is reminiscent of graded coins/currency or stamps,  which continue to do well despite that stuff being old as heck and collectors never having used such issues to buy or mail something!   hm

If vintage comic books will be embraced by collectors and speculators alike going forward, simple economics suggests that they should continue to appreciate for the foreseeable future due to the limited supply.  Not every vintage book will be an AC1 or AF15, but over time, many of them should follow suit so long as the market continues to mature and remain transparent.  I think this has been true for SA/BA keys for a while already, and recent spikes suggest some CA and modern keys are joining the party.   For example, ASM300 and UF4 despite not being rare books.  Doesn't this bode well for the scarcer, long-established SA Marvel and DC keys?  (shrug)

So there may be more potential buyers going forward than you assumed, even assuming pure traditional collectors become less common.  :wishluck:  Or my brain atrophied due to boredom.  :insane:  Anyway, I am first and foremost a collector (and not just comic books), so I am not as concerned with future valuation.  But it is fun to stay abreast of market prices nonetheless. The safest bet is to collect the books you like.  Here's to hoping everyone is enjoying the hobby, as we near Thanksgiving.     :)

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53 minutes ago, Pantodude said:

Howdy.  I am bored, so please indulge my long-winded 2c.  I respectfully disagree because it depends on the underlying assumptions.  :preach:

You refer to collections coming up for sale as traditional collector's retire, and you fear that insuffient buyers will remain to gobble up the increased supply, resulting in lower prices.  Fair concern, except I would not assume that potential buyers are limited to traditional collectors defined as folks who buy only what they enjoyed reading in their youth. I primarily enjoy GA and SA goodies in my PC, with some BA sprinkled in, despite not having been lucky enough to read many of them in my youth.  Why?  Because of pride of ownership of books that helped shape current pop culture or are otherwise cool to have in hand.   I am sure a bunch of folks also collect books because of the art, stories, characters, whether or not they read the books in their youth, because they remain cool to read/appreciate.   :cloud9:  For all we know, this group could outnumber traditional collectors some day enough to gobble up any increase in supply, even assuming general population increases aren't enough.

Indeed, we have yet to see a dip in values for the main GA categories or any of the SA superhero titles, despite most collectors today being too young to have enjoyed those books in their youth.  One reason could be that Disney/Marvel and DC have maintained the popularity of vintage comic book heroes/villains/stories/art through movies, books, cartoons, etc.   And/or folks could be appreciating history more, particulary as it relates to current pop culture, and comic books are a cool way to do that.  Because all of these folks expand the concept of traditional collector, supply might not keep up with future demand, rather than the other way around.  (thumbsu

I would also not assume that potential buyers are limited to traditional collectors or even collectors in general.  Whether or not younger folks apprectiate GA/SA/BA books for artistic or nostaligic purposes as did prior generations, more and more folks of all ages seek out these books for investment.  Due to the maturing of the market for vintage comic books, they have been legit liquid assets for two decades now, increasingly so ever since the advent of slabbing, eBay, and other online auction sites allowing for quick/easy sales.  This is reminiscent of graded coins/currency or stamps,  which continue to do well despite that stuff being old as heck and collectors never having used such issues to buy or mail something!   hm

If vintage comic books will be embraced by collectors and speculators alike going forward, simple economics suggests that they should continue to appreciate for the foreseeable future due to the limited supply.  Not every vintage book will be an AC1 or AF15, but over time, many of them should follow suit so long as the market continues to mature and remain transparent.  I think this has been true for SA/BA keys for a while already, and recent spikes suggest some CA and modern keys are joining the party.   For example, ASM300 and UF4 despite not being rare books.  Doesn't this bode well for the scarcer, long-established SA Marvel and DC keys?  (shrug)

So there may be more potential buyers going forward than you assumed, even assuming pure traditional collectors become less common.  :wishluck:  Or my brain atrophied due to boredom.  :insane:  Anyway, I am first and foremost a collector (and not just comic books), so I am not as concerned with future valuation.  But it is fun to stay abreast of market prices nonetheless. The safest bet is to collect the books you like.  Here's to hoping everyone is enjoying the hobby, as we near Thanksgiving.     :)

Who will be able to afford them?(shrug)

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1 hour ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

Who will be able to afford them?(shrug)

Good question.  No doubt, it's a double-edged sword.  Great for those who finished collecting their keys and are sitting pat, while at least a temporary pain for those getting started or still building their PCs (I say temporary if the books continue to do okay after getting them?).   And vice-versa if the market instead were trending down!    Really depends on whether you have a short- or long-term perspective.  For collectors who stay within their means, long term should be fine whichever way it goes.      

 

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If you want to try it without getting your butt financially kicked, pick an early year in the silver age and just try to do that.  My suggestion is to try to collect every book make in 1963.  If you get sick of it, you'll still have something worthwhile to sell.  If you still enjoy it, select another year and keep going.

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Why not start collecting comics dated January 2021 onwards. They have far smaller production runs than comics published in earlier decades and soon more people will be downloading digital editions than buying floppies. If you live another 50 years you may find you have a valuable collection in 2070.

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