TO BUY OR NOT TO BUY THAT IS THE QUESTION WITH MODERNS 1 1

[speedcake]

Anyone not selling their moderns as soon as they get "hot" will be sads.  Moderns are today's beanie babies.

[AndrewCup]

I buy Modern books every week.  I'm not a flipper.  I do something unique with them - I read them.  Image is my go to for great stories, Marvel is un-readable, DC is Batman (that is ok).  I do the same things with these books that I have done for the last decades.  Read, enjoy, and file.  

[FineCollector]

Flipping in the modern market is an expensive game of hot potato.  Buy a hot book at $20, hoping to find someone to buy at $30, who will try to sell it for $40.  No one wants the book, they just want to build up enough profit to buy Spider-Man keys.

It's difficult for moderns to build any lasting value.  The people buying moderns at the top of market dont have the disposable income we do.  When next Summer's hot books hit, they'll sell this year's hot books en masse to pay for them.  The prices will fall back down, and those who pumped them will sell, saying they've changed focus/aren't into it anymore.

[Poekaymon]

1 hour ago, AndrewCup said:

I buy Modern books every week.  I'm not a flipper.  I do something unique with them - I read them.  Image is my go to for great stories, Marvel is un-readable, DC is Batman (that is ok).  I do the same things with these books that I have done for the last decades.  Read, enjoy, and file.  

Marvel has a few.  Immortal Hulk is pretty good.  Daredevil and Thor decent recently.  2019 X-Men...  That might be about it.

Edited December 6, 2020 by Poekaymon

[batmiesta]

New comics are  Even though I have never read one,  They probably are though, I would still fleece some poor schmuck with one if I could .

[Hollywood1892]

Moderns are rejuvenating for the hobby, but I really Ike Silver Age myself

[Beige]

The Sixth Gun (2010), No. 1, Oni Press

		Rating		2018 Avg	2019 Avg	12m Avg	90Day Avg	Last sale
	UNI	9.8		--	$61	$587	$511	$51Oct 2020
Total books sold59High/Low price recorded$927 / $6 Year Number High Low   2020 7 $73 $41 2019 1 $6 $6 2017 1 $75 $75 2016 4 $115 $65 2015 5 $150 $50 2014 10 $185 $71 2013 31 $927 $101

[Jasonmorris1000000]

2 hours ago, batmiesta said:

New comics are  Even though I have never read one,  They probably are though, I would still fleece some poor schmuck with one if I could .

You've really never read a modern comic?  The Hulk has been great lately (just the past 38 issues).  I highly recommend it.  It's written by a guy named Al Ewing who, like you, lives in England.  Definitely worth $3.99 a month to me.

[speedcake]

I've got zero issues with people collecting moderns or even with buying them thinking they will remain valuable ten or twenty years beyond publication (a handful of them probably even will!)

I don't have a problem with some speculation buying or "investing" or any of the other similar aspects of the hobby, even though I joke about it now and then.

I just worry that many potential long term collectors who are new to the hobby, after getting too wrapped up in what their moderns (or any of their comics from any age) are worth or might be worth one day, will leave the hobby when they figure out the thousands of dollars they thought they had are really a few tens of dollars. All the youtubers pumping the latest hot books, the people in the game purely for speculation who are guilty of pumping books they know full well will be worthless and soon, can all take a hike. 

[batmiesta]

10 minutes ago, Jasonmorris1000000 said:

You've really never read a modern comic?  The Hulk has been great lately (just the past 38 issues).  I highly recommend it.  It's written by a guy named Al Ewing who, like you, lives in England.  Definitely worth $3.99 a month to me.

Nope! I have zero interest in new comics.

[Jasonmorris1000000]

20 minutes ago, batmiesta said:

Nope! I have zero interest in new comics.

What if the Hulk married Mary Jane?  Come on, you'd have to buy that issue.  And all the variant covers.

[Beige]

This was one I could never figure out.

BBC promo's with Ron Perlman, Elijah Wood and Summer Glau (all confirmed as cast) - then nada, zilch, zip.

It was right there,  promo made, not too bad a story.

They ended up crowd-sourcing to finish it.

People still buying it - just in case. 

I bought 5 x 9.8 slabbed for $70 before the BBC announcement - still hold highest sale price at $668 - so I did well.

I'd hate to be the guy who PAID the $668.

Thats the trouble with moderns......

Peter Panzerfaust (2012), No. 1, Image Comics

Total books sold229High/Low price recorded$668 / $25

Year	Number	High	Low
2020	6	$175	$90
2019	5	$150	$73
2018	6	$109	$70
2017	23	$150	$51
2016	20	$180	$63
2015	37	$225	$83
2014	49	$450	$161
2013	67	$668	$225
2012	16	$300	$25

[Beige]

Some hold reasonably steady, even after being a typical Image cancellation (Hi Eric  ) - very unlucky as French TV did a show called 'Les Revenants' - before revival got made. Very unlucky timing here.

Revival (2012), No. 1, Image Comics

Total books sold533High/Low price recorded$150 / $1

Year	Number	High	Low
2020	15	$67	$26
2019	17	$77	$25
2018	18	$64	$22
2017	42	$93	$25
2016	31	$88	$19
2015	38	$63	$20
2014	57	$83	$21
2013	219	$135	$1
2012	96	$150	$40

[Beige]

Big shout out to Ken "we're being bought up by Disney, and we're gunna be rich" Kristiensen - who disappeared off the boards after it fell through.

I still have one, but only because I had Danny "Machete" Trejo sign it - yellow label (Trejo did the front cover inscription)

Todd, the Ugliest Kid on Earth (2013), No. 1, Image Comics

Total books sold76High/Low price recorded$231 / $26

Year	Number	High	Low
2020	4	$70	$26
2018	4	$50	$36
2017	5	$88	$45
2016	5	$75	$36
2015	12	$99	$40
2014	24	$231	$70
2013	22	$175	$36

Edited December 7, 2020 by Beige

[Beige]

Of course - the worst result with a spec book is the TV show gets made and it's utter pants. $1339 to $158.  Ouchie.

 

Preacher (1995), No. 1, DC Comics (Vertigo)

Total books sold568High/Low price recorded$1339 / $69

Year	Number	High	Low
2020	42	$384	$158
2019	43	$400	$175
2018	64	$480	$150
2017	90	$647	$258
2016	111	$1339	$406
2015	67	$1130	$525
2014	53	$750	$331
2013	18	$650	$125
2012	16	$200	$103
2011	17	$199	$83
2010	11	$250	$149
2009	18	$386	$175
2008	13	$380	$305
2006	3	$200	$168
2005	1	$153	$153
2004	1	$69	$69

[1950's war comics]

one can waste their money on modern comic books or spend it more wisely on hookers and blow 

[THE_BEYONDER]

[Poekaymon]

34 minutes ago, THE_BEYONDER said:

[Off Panel]

8 hours ago, Poekaymon said:

Marvel has a few.  Immortal Hulk is pretty good.  Daredevil and Thor decent recently.  2019 X-Men...  That might be about it.

For about 16 years I worked in industries that were all-consuming. 60-hour work weeks were the norm and I had some clients that kept me on the road a lot. During this time I kept a pull list of the major Marvel books with my LCS. I was religious about emptying my folder at the end of each month, but I fell farther and farther behind in my reading. By the time I moved to a saner industry in 2016, I had fallen five years behind in my reading. While the rest of the world was reading "Death of X," I was still on "Fear Itself." As part of my newfound life balance, I swore that I would get current on my comics reading. (And I also finally start watching The Walking Dead.)

Last week I finished reading all my Marvel books cover-dated August 2019, so at this point I'm only one and a quarter years behind. I'm reading two months of comics every month now and should be pretty much up to date by the end of next year. While I'm still a little behind, I've got to say that I personally still find a lot to enjoy reading the modern Marvels. I really enjoyed Slott's Amazing Spider-man and have had fun with much of the first two years of Spencer's run. I have read Thor off and on for the last forty years and Jason Aaron's stories have been an absolute high point. Jonathon Hickman's work on Avengers leading up to Secret Wars completely blew me away, and I couldn't agree with you more when it comes to Immortal Hulk, which doesn't feel like any other book I read.

I'm a Bronze Age guy at heart and I love all those stories from the 70's, but I'm here to tell some of you older guys (like me): if you aren't reading some of the new stuff, you're missing out.

[theCapraAegagrus]

The stuff that Towlie would read and say, "now that's some good s^&*", are few and far between.