bluehorseshoe Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 25 minutes ago, the blob said: Yeah, I read your comment. But the idea that census numbers for a low value book somehow prove they are impossible to find in high grade is just naive. They might, or they may more likely show a lack of submissions. People are likely not submitting good candidates because there doesn't look like much financial upside. I couldn't find any CGC sales of those issues (or listings), so i have no data to work with, but generally speaking the fanfares don't seem to do all that well in slabs, even the issues that are relevant to an upcoming movie. And issue #60 just sitting there at under $60 with a black panther cover, albeit in cgc 9.6, and probably just as low a print run as 58 or 59, kind of makes me wonder if 56-59 would do just poorly. So why would people be slabbing their nice copies? Fact is, we're talking about an early 90s Marvel that, I believe, was direct only. The experts here would know, but even on the brink of cancellation I still think we were talking about 50K+ print runs then. Okay, whatever, just go back to talking about MF Black Widow books, for whatever reason you felt that was important. Link to post Share on other sites
500Club Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Schmakt and shiverbones 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
the blob Posted January 16 Author Share Posted January 16 22 minutes ago, bluehorseshoe said: Okay, whatever, just go back to talking about MF Black Widow books, for whatever reason you felt that was important. In looking at the census, Very few copies of any of the last few years of the MF run were submitted, Virtually all of the copies submitted are 9.6 or 9.8. Indeed, only 4 copies of the last (Black PAnther) issue have been submitted and there are a ton of raw copies on ebay. 4 copies of 50 are on the census and they are all 9.8. My Black Widow references were more about this being a title almost nobody is willing to pay much for. Why spend $15-20 submitting, risk $5 on a pre-screen, etc, for so little upside, particularly as nice raw copies might get you $7-$15 a piece. Link to post Share on other sites
D2 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 24 minutes ago, 500Club said: I Love me some BWS but her legs are sooooooooooooooooo looooooooong. SP1dxor 1 Link to post Share on other sites
D2 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 (edited) Edited for better picture Edited January 16 by D2 GeeksAreMyPeeps, SP1dxor, 500Club and 1 other 4 Link to post Share on other sites
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 4 minutes ago, D2 said: This would look great in a triptych with these 2: D2, Jasonmorris1000000 and Schmakt 3 Link to post Share on other sites
bluehorseshoe Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 15 minutes ago, the blob said: In looking at the census, Very few copies of any of the last few years of the MF run were submitted, Virtually all of the copies submitted are 9.6 or 9.8. Indeed, only 4 copies of the last (Black PAnther) issue have been submitted and there are a ton of raw copies on ebay. 4 copies of 50 are on the census and they are all 9.8. My Black Widow references were more about this being a title almost nobody is willing to pay much for. Why spend $15-20 submitting, risk $5 on a pre-screen, etc, for so little upside, particularly as nice raw copies might get you $7-$15 a piece. Sounds like you have it all figured out. Bye now, thanks for the insight. Link to post Share on other sites
bluehorseshoe Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 37 minutes ago, 500Club said: Hands down the best copper cover in my book. I just love this book. Jasonmorris1000000 1 Link to post Share on other sites
D2 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 15 minutes ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said: This would look great in a triptych with these 2: Totally agree. I had the first one signed by Claremont with a baby blue pen too, insane looking. Absolutely loved it. Link to post Share on other sites
ganni Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Great thread Jim Lee is a copper age artist. So i decided to post this. The time I understood his drawings. For the copper age. Link to post Share on other sites
ganni Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Arthur Adams Jasonmorris1000000 and Legion HQ 2 Link to post Share on other sites
ganni Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Dave Gibbons started 1983..... so Jasonmorris1000000 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Readcomix Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Late ‘82 might be too early for some of you guys to want to call Copper, it I have always loved this one. ganni, Jasonmorris1000000 and Legion HQ 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Readcomix Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 And this may not be a classic in the traditional sense, but it’s a throwback outlier for the copper age. I’ve always appreciated it for the pre-code vibe. ganni, Jonathan78 and Jasonmorris1000000 3 Link to post Share on other sites
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 4 hours ago, D2 said: Totally agree. I had the first one signed by Claremont with a baby blue pen too, insane looking. Absolutely loved it. Lot of Wolvie anguish in green and purple/pink. D2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
jdandns Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 12 hours ago, the blob said: This one too: I wonder if this is where McFarlane got the idea for his classic cover with the Hulk reflected in Wolvie's claws. ganni 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ganni Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 (edited) For Marc Silvestri 82' Edited January 17 by ganni Link to post Share on other sites
whetteon Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 This one! My 10 year old mind was fascinated by this cover. Jasonmorris1000000, ganni and ADAMANTIUM 3 Link to post Share on other sites
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 hours ago, whetteon said: This one! My 10 year old mind was fascinated by this cover. All of the Kraven's Last Hunt covers are great. ADAMANTIUM and D2 2 Link to post Share on other sites
