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2 hours ago, Timely said:

The Wrightson ST page went higher than expected!

I thought it was going to go for around that amount. Remember another page just went recently in $40K+ range. I need one page for my collection. I was the underbidder (I think). It was a good page (lots of Swampy) but I really would rather have a bigger Swamp Thing and a few less panels. Maybe next time.

I also wanted the Ross Andru Amazing Spider-Man page. I liked the fact that Goblin was in it so I was willing to pay pretty high. But $26k when half the page is Flash being thrown out the window seemed like too much.

And Cockrum X-Men pages just seem to be increasing a couple grand a month.

I really believe there has to be a slow down coming on fairly soon unless..... there are just a few collectors out there scooping up a lot of this art. 

The challenge as a collector is that any good artist, drawing one of the more popular characters seems like $20k and up (which is just crazy).

I do expect to see more and more quality as prices rises. We will see if supply starts to bring the prices down (just slightly) on some of these types of pieces. 

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22 minutes ago, sfilosa said:

I really believe there has to be a slow down coming on fairly soon unless..... there are just a few collectors out there scooping up a lot of this art. 

 

Nope. There will be a couple of shallow speed bumps along the way but basically all private assets will run hot into 2032.

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23 hours ago, batman_fan said:

Wonder if there will be any interest in this piece coming up in the next HA auction

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What's the guesstimate on final sale price of this one?

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1 hour ago, higradeguy said:
On 4/2/2021 at 8:17 PM, batman_fan said:

Wonder if there will be any interest in this piece coming up in the next HA auction

 

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What's the guesstimate on final sale price of this one?

Not sure about value on this. I love Wood, but don't follow this market as closely as others.

My question is, is this the Alpha and Omega of Wood covers? He did so many great ones, but I feel like this might be THE one. Would this be an accurate assessment?

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1 hour ago, vodou said:

Nope. There will be a couple of shallow speed bumps along the way but basically all private assets will run hot into 2032.

What's magic about 2032?

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23 hours ago, mtlevy1 said:

I noted the same on the BWS pages that they did quite well but given the current market craziness a 25 - 35% bump isn't so much

If you read these boards regularly, you'd think that the market for BWS pages has been so bad that they're only fit for mulch.

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14 hours ago, Timely said:

I had a chance to buy the Infinity Gauntlet page 2 months ago for WELL under 10k and I passed! I asked 2 dealers and 1 collector and no one valued it over $8k.

 

Where the hell did I leave my time machine?

My question would be why would any seller even consider selling except via auction now?  

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9 hours ago, jbud73 said:

Given what other stuff went for, I thought the BWS Conan panels were actually pretty reasonable for what was depicted on the panels and how many included CONAN.  They were the only 2 things I bid on and was outbid as well.  Its now 2 years without adding a piece.  I just can't justify paying 10K for what is a B to C level piece from an artist I like

Jason!  What's up?!

And there's the crux of it.  While Gene may lament the weakness of BWS Conan interior panel pages, the fact is they're still going for 5-figures. 

Outside of this little bubble world that OA collectors are inhabiting, that's real money. 

 

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4 hours ago, Bill C said:

Man, a lot of strong silver age DC sales. This stuff may be considered the red headed stepchild compared to Marvel, but apparently DC has been drinking it's milk and doing lots of push-ups behind closed doors.

A big tide lifts all boats.

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36 minutes ago, stinkininkin said:

My question is, is this the Alpha and Omega of Wood covers? He did so many great ones, but I feel like this might be THE one. Would this be an accurate assessment?

Yes

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3 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

My question is, is this the Alpha and Omega of Wood covers? He did so many great ones, but I feel like this might be THE one. Would this be an accurate assessment?

 

2 hours ago, tth2 said:

Yes

It should be, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Daredevil #7 cover were to bring more now.

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On 4/2/2021 at 1:49 AM, Matches_Malone said:

Zecks Kravens Last Hunt page sold for $28,800 with the Juice. I just sold that piece for $7K during ComicArtLive Con back in October.

 

On 4/3/2021 at 4:34 AM, fsumavila said:

I knew the Larsen ASM splash would go big, but $50K is ...WOW. 

 

 

On 4/3/2021 at 9:21 AM, Lobstrosity said:

33k for Liefeld New Mutants page is a record for a Cable (as opposed to Deadpool) page as far as I know

 

On 4/3/2021 at 12:08 PM, tth2 said:

The Infinity Gauntlet #1 page reinforced that the floor price for panel pages with a strong Thanos image (and this one is excellent) is $20k.

17 hours ago, Timely said:

I had a chance to buy the Infinity Gauntlet page 2 months ago for WELL under 10k and I passed! I asked 2 dealers and 1 collector and no one valued it over $8k.

 

13 hours ago, MyNameIsLegion said:

WTF happened with that Richard Bennet X-Men page? $5K? The second page went for half that.

 

10 hours ago, Unstoppablejayd said:

Umm... What the heck on the Jim Lee X-men page??? 33k for storm only????

 

Seems like new money pouring into '80 & '90s OA ..... would certainly explain the recent 2x-3x price leaps and throwing out of valuation norms.

 

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6 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

Not sure about value on this. I love Wood, but don't follow this market as closely as others.

My question is, is this the Alpha and Omega of Wood covers? He did so many great ones, but I feel like this might be THE one. Would this be an accurate assessment?

I don't do guesstimates but think the SSS # 6 is likely to smash previous records for a Woody EC cover.

To tie into Lee Benaka's efforts, the # 6 cover originally sold for $2.288 on March 30, 1983 in the Russ Cochran EC art auctions.  Pretty strong price for back then.  I bought two complete EC stories in the same auction, including one from # 6.

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8 hours ago, vodou said:

Nope. There will be a couple of shallow speed bumps along the way but basically all private assets will run hot into 2032.

There is likely to be a significant one when enough people have gotten vaccinated that they feel they can divert their spare funds to vacations, going out to dinner, etc. Let’s see if prices are still flying by the end of summer. 

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7 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

What's magic about 2032?

We'd love to have you join CFA-APA. I will address the significance of 2032 in our very next mailing.

7 hours ago, grapeape said:

That’s the year after Vodou sells off his assetslol

Approximately correct, but not the art I love. That black hole tranche is both priceless and worthless.

However, add another zero to that 2nd run Cockrum X-Men result, make it common for most period examples and even my fortitude may waver lol 

7 hours ago, tth2 said:

My question would be why would any seller even consider selling except via auction now?  

Trade can still be appealing for specific things otherwise off-market, but private cash action unless sickeningly rich makes little sense.

When should we expect HA to 'improve' their comic art BP to 25%?

49 minutes ago, Rick2you2 said:

There is likely to be a significant one when enough people have gotten vaccinated that they feel they can divert their spare funds to vacations, going out to dinner, etc. Let’s see if prices are still flying by the end of summer. 

New money exuberance will overwhelm old money trepidation.

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With Heritage, if you have to pay the 20% seller fee and the Buyer has to pay the 20% fee, that’s a lot of money taken away from the consignor. Any they charge sales tax, unlike a private sale or trade. Even if you use art to to pay for your winnings, they still charge sales tax. Of course dealers are tax exempt so they have an advantage in that respect.

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2 hours ago, vodou said:

When should we expect HA to 'improve' their comic art BP to 25%?

This 👆

Get it while it’s cheap. 

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2 hours ago, vodou said:

 

New money exuberance will overwhelm old money trepidation.

New money will be out getting vacations, dining, etc., too. 
Strangely, I saw an article about NFT art already dropping (strange since it didn’t even exist until recently, but not surprising). 

Pricing may stay up, because prices tend to be sticky downward even if sales volume drops (no one wants to give up phantom profits).

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