lou_fine Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 hours ago, CrocHntr said: 10 hours ago, the blob said: gorgeous, but a 9.8 with a dust shadow? Agreed. While it’s an amazing book, a 9.8 has to be a mistake, no? Well, if this copy of Suspense 8 with its visual corner spine defects comes in with a blowout grade of either CGC 9.8 or CGC 9.6, then there's definitely something off with the grading of this Promise Collection here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 This one has a similar top corner, though probably mostly production, as well as some vertical bends/breaks along the spine. As always though, it's hard to guage things through scans, especially the massive Heritage blowups. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/all-star-comics-33-the-promise-collection-pedigree-dc-1947-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/p/7244-175012.s?ic=Home-FeaturedItems-071515# Larryw7 and jimjum12 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 3 hours ago, october said: 3 hours ago, buttock said: I'm going to be the first to say it. That's a terrible name. God, it sounds like something you'd give to a collection of porcelain dolls. It a cringey name. Won't hold those books down though. Maybe it's supposed to make you think of the Hope Diamond or sommething of that magnitude. Whatever, it's still sounds a lot better than the name they came up with for Ayman Hariri's so-called "Impossible Collection", although that one there at least was not an official CGC pedigree collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveb25 Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Maybe the family promised to keep the books until the original owner passed away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, october said: This one has a similar top corner, though probably mostly production, as well as some vertical bends/breaks along the spine. As always though, it's hard to guage things through scans, especially the massive Heritage blowups. https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/all-star-comics-33-the-promise-collection-pedigree-dc-1947-cgc-nm-96-white-pages/p/7244-175012.s?ic=Home-FeaturedItems-071515# Yes, although the top corner of the All-Star 33 definitely appears to be a bindery corner production related flaw, I am not so sure about the one on the Suspense 8, and in particular the small but rather noticeable one on the bottom corner. Hard to tell from a scan though, as you would need to have the actual book in hand to tell for sure. Edited April 27, 2021 by lou_fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrange Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 2 hours ago, buttock said: I feel sorry for almost anyone else who consigns a great book. So much to compete against. This a great opportunity to pickup some nice books while everyone is concentrating on this pedigree. Zolnerowich, vheflin, drbanner and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Fantastic Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 45 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Yes, although the top corner of the All-Star 33 definitely appears to be a bindery corner production related flaw, I am not so sure about the one on the Suspense 8, and in particular the small but rather noticeable one on the bottom corner. Hard to tell from a scan though, as you would need to have the actual book in hand to tell for sure. All-Star #33 Close-ups............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lou_fine Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 On 4/18/2021 at 8:30 PM, LDarkseid1 said: Question, does something like this devalue the golden age market as a whole? I mean suddenly sooo many high grade golden age books hitting the market. Chips away at the lack of supply a little you know. Most definitely not, as a collection like this will tend to pump up the values in the entire GA market as investors, speculators, and possibly even some long time collectors will move in to acquire pieces of this collection. Seems like the owner is probably right on top of the game and is bringing this collection to market right when there is a lot of wild and crazy money out there being spent on collectibles in general with prices eemingly spiralling out of control. At the same time, with the sheer volume of books in this collection, although the owner will certainly be set for life with this sale, I believe the collection will also be "cannibalizing" itself with the amount of dollars that's involved here. Like the big big Jon Berk auction on CC afew years ago, I believe a lot of these books whenever they do come back to market might just be able to realize even higher prices going forward. comicjack and PopKulture 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrocHntr Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, Mr.Fantastic said: All-Star #33 Close-ups............. Yikes. Unless that corner ding/tear happened post-encapsulation, that's really has me questioning whether it was purposely mis-graded or if we've got some inexperienced graders looking at these. Talk me off a limb here. Is a 9.6 possible with that defect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
innocuous Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Most definitely not, as a collection like this will tend to pump up the values in the entire GA market as investors, speculators, and possibly even some long time collectors will move in to acquire pieces of this collection. Seems like the owner is probably right on top of the game and is bringing this collection to market right when there is a lot of wild and crazy money out there being spent on collectibles in general with prices eemingly spiralling out of control. At the same time, with the sheer volume of books in this collection, although the owner will certainly be set for life with this sale, I believe the collection will also be "cannibalizing" itself with the amount of dollars that's involved here. Like the big big Jon Berk auction on CC afew years ago, I believe a lot of these books whenever they do come back to market might just be able to realize even higher prices going forward. I sold my GA collection years ago. Including a few Church copies. I may be coming back for this. I'm really looking forward to my printed catalog. Edited April 27, 2021 by innocuous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, CrocHntr said: Yikes. Unless that corner ding/tear happened post-encapsulation, that's really has me questioning whether it was purposely mis-graded or if we've got some inexperienced graders looking at these. Talk me off a limb here. Is a 9.6 possible with that defect? I strongly believe that what you are looking at is a bindery corner which is rather a common production flaw when it comes to the GA books, and hence since it is a result of the production process, is not really factored into the grading of the book. If you are concerned about bindery corners, how about all of that much more horrid and egregious Marvel chipping that you tend to see on some of the early SA Marvel books. CrocHntr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post batman_fan Posted April 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 hours ago, lou_fine said: Okay, I'll bite...........................what's the rationale for this name here? With a name like that, it would only sound good if the entire had been Promise to me only and to nobody else. “I promise to empty your bank account” jimjum12, tth2, buttock and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 30 minutes ago, Mr.Fantastic said: All-Star #33 Close-ups............. Some of the bending on the spine is probably from manufacturing and thus would not be considered a "defect". CrocHntr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 16 hours ago, batman_fan said: The Promise Collection has dropped ! Wow! I feel like Porky Pig trying to make a sentence! abeedabeabeed! sagii, batman_fan and Larryw7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post october Posted April 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, buttock said: Some of the bending on the spine is probably from manufacturing and thus would not be considered a "defect". We should make a list of defects that are magically not defects on golden age comics. CrocHntr, jimjum12, Chief1332 and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, buttock said: Some of the bending on the spine is probably from manufacturing and thus would not be considered a "defect". Sarcasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 hours ago, NEED MO DAKKA said: A man can dream Mein Gott! Das ist so hübsch, dass ich deutsch geworden bin! jimjum12 and tth2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, october said: We should make a list of defects that are magically not defects on golden age comics. It depends on whether I'm buying or selling. batman_fan, Microchip and Bronty 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, CrocHntr said: Yikes. Unless that corner ding/tear happened post-encapsulation, that's really has me questioning whether it was purposely mis-graded or if we've got some inexperienced graders looking at these. Talk me off a limb here. Is a 9.6 possible with that defect? If CGC determined it to be production related, a bindery tear, then yes, it can be a GA CGC 9.6. Edited April 27, 2021 by Badger No H needed CrocHntr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
