Sarg Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 hours ago, innocuous said: No time wasted getting these up. The Phantom Lady was graded last week. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/1973736014/ I see they're still mis-crediting Phantom Lady 17's cover to Baker, even though it looks nothing like he ever drew. MBFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, szav said: If this is one continuous OO collection wonder what the story is as to why this book stands out as a beater... although I can’t see the picture that well on my phone to see what the defects are. Seems odd. we were told earlier that the collection has some books going back to the late 30s, but that generally the higher/highest grades are the later years. Makes sense to me. szav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, Sarg said: Thanks. But what about books that are not pedigrees? Does writing on the cover then impact the grade in a negative way? It seems rather arbitrary. Distributor codes and names are treated the same on pedigree & non-pedigree books. 44 minutes ago, Sarg said: Personally, I'd rather have a 7.5 book with no writing than a 9.2 book with writing, but to each his own. As it is, there might be many copies of higher grade than the 7.5 making it much cheaper to buy than if the grading system penalized writing more heavily. So, it's a win for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) On 4/28/2021 at 3:45 AM, adamstrange said: On 4/28/2021 at 3:27 AM, Sarg said: I've never understood why writing on the cover is not considered a more prominent defect. How can a book with writing grade at 9.6? Distributor marks have generally been considered a minor defect for GA comics going back decades. They are the primary method for confirming many pedigrees and are often prized rather than reviled by high end GA collectors. My interest in the work done on the Catman Comics #28 led me to flip for the grader notes. While I don't think it's appropriate that I post the entirety of the notes, I will mention that CGC is calling the distributor marking "pedigree coding." Edited April 30, 2021 by MasterChief Badger, PedigreeMan, GreatCaesarsGhost and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 38 minutes ago, Sarg said: I see they're still mis-crediting Phantom Lady 17's cover to Baker, even though it looks nothing like he ever drew. It's a relatively recent assertion and hasn't been universally accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Was it ever stated exactly how late the collection goes? Thought someone said 1950 or 1950s. Not sure I’ve seen any post 1949 books yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Crowzilla said: I didn't realize that Cap 46 and 74 were the same price in the guide now. So what brings more, 2nd highest graded 46, or the same grade (but highest by a longshot) 74? Good question. One is arguably the penultimate WWII cover, and the other is the penultimate symbol of the decline of super heroes when the war ended. The 74 is a classic cover, but poor Cap has been reduced to a novelty act. the 46 shows Cap at the height of his power. So I’m thinking the second highest 46 beats the highest 74. p.s. why does every 74 I’ve ever seen have that weird cut to it? Edited April 30, 2021 by GreatCaesarsGhost Readcomix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vheflin Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Crowzilla said: I didn't realize that Cap 46 and 74 were the same price in the guide now. So what brings more, 2nd highest graded 46, or the same grade (but highest by a longshot) 74? The 46 should bring more as it appears deserving of its grade. The 74 should be a 6.5 or so due to the heinous miscut. But, the 74 will win out as someone will pay a multiple for the $.03 label. GreatCaesarsGhost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post entalmighty1 Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 Imagine how high this one would grade if the whole cover was actually present. batman_fan, sfcityduck, Larryw7 and 9 others 2 1 4 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 Mucho generous 8.0 1 point grade bump due to great triangular Namor head Transplant, fast eddie and Point Five 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drbanner Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, entalmighty1 said: Imagine how high this one would grade if the whole cover was actually present. Heritage Promised a grade bump, and they got several on this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 40 minutes ago, szav said: Was it ever stated exactly how late the collection goes? Thought someone said 1950 or 1950s. Not sure I’ve seen any post 1949 books yet. It should end in '51 szav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post entalmighty1 Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, drbanner said: Heritage Promised a grade bump, and they got several on this one! If this is an 8.0, all of my 8.0s are 9.2s. This is just sad. goldust40, Larryw7, CrocHntr and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, drbanner said: Heritage Promised a grade bump, and they got several on this one! That's pretty crazy to see a book with that much of the cover missing in an 8.0 slab. It certainly doesn't help much with the rumor that certain people get "special" service... Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post batman_fan Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 Not part of the Promise Collection but this one is pretty interesting. lou_fine, Gotham Kid, Spyder! and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 3 hours ago, adamstrange said: It's a relatively recent assertion and hasn't been universally accepted. but its so clearly correct. I remember reading the assertion that it was feldstein and right away it was like my brain said "OMG of course it is... how could this ever have been called a Baker cover.." They should correct that. Sarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThothAmon Posted April 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 30, 2021 2 hours ago, entalmighty1 said: Imagine how high this one would grade if the whole cover was actually present. This is so maddening. Hate to pile on and I don’t have Heritage’s super bright scanner, but approximately the same size chip got me a 5.0 on my Tec 13 and the bottom of the spine isn’t chipped either. Sarg, fast eddie, Yorick and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bronty said: but its so clearly correct. I remember reading the assertion that it was feldstein and right away it was like my brain said "OMG of course it is... how could this ever have been called a Baker cover.." They should correct that. I can't find the source but I could swear I read that Feldstein during an interview once denied having drawn any of PL 17. That said I never thought it looked as much like Baker's work as some of the other issues. And that said I'm super excited to see what Bakers are in this collection. Not used to seeing any of his books in 9.6s or 9.8s... If this collection does stop in 1951 then we'll miss out on some of his more iconic work, but there could still be a lot in there that we never see in high grade. Sarg and Rip 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 (edited) Yeah I dunno. I mean look at the Sunny and Junior covers and the PL17.. they fit. Feldstein was drawing bolt ons before they even existed Edited April 30, 2021 by Bronty Rip and Sarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, szav said: And that said I'm super excited to see what Bakers are in this collection. Not used to seeing any of his books in 9.6s or 9.8s... If this collection does stop in 1951 then we'll miss out on some of his more iconic work, but there could still be a lot in there that we never see in high grade. Oh right... hmm. It will be interesting to see for sure. Incredible books so far. greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
