Jginsberg79 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Is there any way this isn't an absolute bloodbath in terms of new prices set? Seems like a lot of people are going to be spending a lot of money ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 24 minutes ago, Jginsberg79 said: Is there any way this isn't an absolute bloodbath in terms of new prices set? Seems like a lot of people are going to be spending a lot of money ;-) There will be blood namisgr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Funnybooks Posted May 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: There will be blood and that's a Promise tth2, Chief1332, sagii and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, ThothAmon said: the Archie’s that have been displayed so far are very nice. Sadly the collection apparently does not include a 13. I’m a little afraid that the (relatively) big bucks I’ve previously ponied up to buy the highest graded examples of Archie’s are not going to look like such a good idea in hindsight. HOW is that top left corner acceptable for a 9.6? Maaaybe the bottom left corner is ok for a 9.6... Funnybooks and ThothAmon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 42 minutes ago, Jginsberg79 said: Is there any way this isn't an absolute bloodbath in terms of new prices set? Seems like a lot of people are going to be spending a lot of money ;-) with the spike in values/prices on SA and newer comics, I'm expecting the same. Maybe even some selloff of SA books to fund GA purchases Mmehdy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 5/4/2021 at 1:01 AM, jimbo_7071 said: Writing on the cover should reduce the grade, period. It might make sense for an Okajima camp book with a grade of 4.0 to be worth more than a non-pedigree book in 9.0 because of the historical significance of the former, but the grade on the camp book should still be 4.0. Damage is damage, whether it occurred in 1945 or 2015. Agreed. Writing on the cover degrades the original printing just as much as chips, tears, and tape, even when it is a "pedigree" collection. I will never understand why graders pretend this is not the case; but I will happily take books they grade 5.0 with no writing over books graded 9.0 with writing. jimbo_7071 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 On 5/3/2021 at 2:17 PM, MrBedrock said: I guess CGC and others have never counted ink fading as a factor in a book's grade, which is somewhat surprising. The Fiction House books that are properly inked are FAR superior to the more common (?) faded ones, as the above example shows clearly. So this is another area where a book graded 5.0 could actually be superior to one graded 9.0. Flex Mentallo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sarg said: Agreed. Writing on the cover degrades the original printing just as much as chips, tears, and tape, even when it is a "pedigree" collection. I will never understand why graders pretend this is not the case; but I will happily take books they grade 5.0 with no writing over books graded 9.0 with writing. to me, not all marks are created equal. Some giant grease pencil mark across the cover image is WAY less tolerable than a name or code written on the edge of the cover... Badger and Northwest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post miraclemet Posted May 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, Sarg said: I guess CGC and others have never counted ink fading as a factor in a book's grade, which is somewhat surprising. The Fiction House books that are properly inked are FAR superior to the more common (?) faded ones, as the above example shows clearly. So this is another area where a book graded 5.0 could actually be superior to one graded 9.0. The DO count sunfading against a books grade, they DONT count printer variation against a book (so a "light roll" of color can be graded just as highly as a bold color, though obviously collectors prefer the best version of a book possible) it's along the same lines as centering... CGC doesnt hold it against a book, since that's the way it was produced (unless the variation is egregious) Badger, 10centcomics, Sarg and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Funnybooks said: 1 hour ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: There will be blood and that's a Promise Funnybooks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 hours ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: There will be blood drbanner and GreatCaesarsGhost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, miraclemet said: to me, not all marks are created equal. Some giant grease pencil mark across the cover image is WAY less tolerable than a name or code written on the edge of the cover... agree greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephisto Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Sarg said: Agreed. Writing on the cover degrades the original printing just as much as chips, tears, and tape, even when it is a "pedigree" collection. I will never understand why graders pretend this is not the case; but I will happily take books they grade 5.0 with no writing over books graded 9.0 with writing. Writing and date stamps were a pet peeve of mine even with GA books. Originally collecting baseball cards when I was younger writing was a death knell for them. When I was buying GA Batman books when I was 20 I just could stand books with writing. I get with comics some shops would write on them before setting them out BUT not all did. Not to mention half the writing is stuff kids marking them. jimbo_7071 and Sarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GreatCaesarsGhost Posted May 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Mephisto said: Not to mention half the writing is stuff kids marking them. When I bought this book, I located the guy whose name is written all over it, and asked WTF? He said he was a little kid at the time (70 years ago!) and was sick of loaning his comics to his friends and never getting them back waaaghboss, Larryw7, Zolnerowich and 18 others 17 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 10 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: When I bought this book, I located the guy whose name is written all over it, and asked WTF? He said he was a little kid at the time (70 years ago!) and was sick of loaning his comics to his friends and never getting them back Cool tidbit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 hours ago, miraclemet said: with the spike in values/prices on SA and newer comics, I'm expecting the same. Maybe even some selloff of SA books to fund GA purchases These ultra grade timely's are once is a lifetime, the SA books, which might cost more to replace..CAN BE REPLACED...certain books in this collection cannot unless you own a time machine..you are trading up from SA to GA to obtain non-replaceable material...it is a no brainer..this collections is a game changer on so many levels... Gotham Kid and fast eddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mmehdy said: These ultra grade timely's are once is a lifetime, the SA books, which might cost more to replace..CAN BE REPLACED...certain books in this collection cannot unless you own a time machine..you are trading up from SA to GA to obtain non-replaceable material...it is a no brainer..this collections is a game changer on so many levels... Is this a Promise? fast eddie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rip Posted May 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 28 minutes ago, GreatCaesarsGhost said: When I bought this book, I located the guy whose name is written all over it, and asked WTF? He said he was a little kid at the time (70 years ago!) and was sick of loaning his comics to his friends and never getting them back In one of the collection of GA books I picked up," Dolores" started making custom library cards and taped a sleeve on the inside front cover of some of her books so others could check them out. I think she did that with about 3 or 4 of them. Edited May 5, 2021 by Rip AJD, ThothAmon, Larryw7 and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatCaesarsGhost Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rip said: In one of the collection of GA books I picked up," Dolores" started making custom library cards and taped a sleeve on the inside front cover of some of her books so others could check them out. I think she did that with about 3 or 4 of them. That’s hilarious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skypinkblu Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 21 hours ago, lou_fine said: Yes, especially since you can't truly grade a book just from a scan, as opposed to having the actual book in hand. Still, always best to buy the book, as oppsed to buying the label like what a lot of the OCD FOMO driven buyers seem to do nowadays. Looks like they have the Miss Fury run up right now, and Miss Fury #2 has always been my favorite out of this short run due to its beautiful blend of colors: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/miss-fury-2-the-promise-collection-pedigree-timely-1943-cgc-vf-85-white-pages/p/7244-175085.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Preview-SearchResults-120115&lotPosition=93|0# Surprised that they haven't had a higher graded copy after all this time, since this Promise Copy here is the highest graded copy at CGC 8.5. Not sure what happened with that top staple area or the wear at the bottom of the spine, but I guess it is what it is, although I have certainly seen better presenting CGC 8.5 graded books from a strict visual point of view. That's always been a tough issue to find. However, I didn't realize that it only went that high until you mentioned it. I think I'll hug my 7.5. Larryw7 and lou_fine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...