Market is just crazy stupid right now 6 6

[THE_BEYONDER]

49 minutes ago, Domo Arigato said:

And my point was not that it doesn't happen.....just that I hadn't noticed it before, most likely because of the books I collect.  Really, that's it.  You then asked who would submit that book in 9.2 which seemed to indicate you didn't think anybody would.  So I pointed out that 82 people did submit for 9.2 or less (about 1/3 of all the submissions).  Then you started adding qualifiers to your statement.....like they were probably submitted early in CGC's history by people who didn't know any better before all the bulk pre screen submitters hit the scene.  I then pointed out that the five most recent 9.2 sales of that issue in GPA were all submitted recently....2017, 2019, and three in 2020.  You then pointed out that it might now be a book worth submitting in 9.2.....so I pointed out that only one of those five recent sales was above $60 and two of them in 2020 sold for only $36 and $40.  And even the most recent sale in March that hit $82 wouldn't affect the census for a good long while due to the backlog at CGC. 

You also keep making statements that you can't really know for sure.......like "most folks would not knowingly slab that book if they thought it was a likely 9.2".  You don't know that.  You can't know that.  You're basing your assumptions on what you would do and based solely on monetary considerations.  As you pointed out, many of those upper grades could be from bulk pre-screen submitters.  So, it's possible that only a few people did bulk submissions for the majority of those upper grades (perhaps someone submitted a stack from a warehouse find)......while it's much more likely that 82 different people probably submitted books for the lower grades for various reasons.  Perhaps their childhood copies.  Or perhaps they just liked the book and wanted to get their copy graded.  We see this all the time on the forum.....new members come in here asking about submitting books from their collection that really don't have the monetary value to justify it.....other than the fact that they just want their books slabbed.  It's entirely possible that MORE folks submitted the book in lower grades than those that submitted for the upper most tiers.  So, I guess I see the points you were trying to make.......I just don't necessarily agree with them.

 

 

[silverweb]

On 5/7/2021 at 5:26 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

CLink last auction. 

WTH!  This is a run of the mill Spider-Man 1?  Not even a Platinum?

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

2 minutes ago, silverweb said:

WTH!  This is a run of the mill Spider-Man 1?  Not even a Platinum?

That is the platinum.. 

[silverweb]

Oh, sorry. I could not make out the label.  Maybe I should sell mine too.

 

[MetaHuman]

There's 120 other blue label Spider-Man #1 platinums out there plus 57 SS copies. Over 1 in 6 copies of this book (10,000 print run?) have been slabbed. Curious if this is the most slabbed book %-wise?

[Artboy99]

On 5/6/2021 at 3:19 AM, Gaard said:

You want crazy? I'll show you crazy.

Iron Man 150

It went for over 20x what I paid for it last year.

prominent Dr. Doom covers are getting strong results as of late I have noticed. Did anyone see the strong result of the CGC 8.0 Marvel Super-heroes #20 on Heritage not that long ago?

 

[Beige]

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/174188921015?hash=item288e7800b7:g:pk4AAOSwEdteQ6rd&frcectupt=true

[the blob]

3 hours ago, Artboy99 said:

prominent Dr. Doom covers are getting strong results as of late I have noticed. Did anyone see the strong result of the CGC 8.0 Marvel Super-heroes #20 on Heritage not that long ago?

 

That is 1st of doomalina tho

[Domo Arigato]

14 hours ago, djpinkpanther67 said:

The 9.9 in the May clink auction will be fun to watch 

That 9.9 in the Clink auction is the Wolverine Limited Series #1 from 1982.  And I agree....with only 27 CGC 9.9's showing on the census, it should go for quite a bit in the current market.

But the one I'm referring to in my post below is just the regular old Wolverine #1 from the 1988 series that ran for 190 issues......a book that has 2,255 copies graded at CGC 9.8 on the census.  Until earlier this year, it was about a $200 book.  Recently it's been going for four times that amount.  There also happens to be a 9.8 copy of it in the same Clink auction.....so we'll see if this trend continues for it.

On 5/11/2021 at 9:15 PM, Domo Arigato said:

Just another example I happened to spot.

Wolverine #1 (1988) graded CGC 9.8

GPA shows an average sale price of $200 over the 187 recorded sales in 2020.

The 3 most recent sales that GPA recorded this month went for $785.....$865.....and $865.

 

 

[ExNihilo]

9 hours ago, silverweb said:

Oh, sorry. I could not make out the label.  Maybe I should sell mine too.

 

The Marvel box in the top left is a dead give away.

Edited May 13, 2021 by ExNihilo

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

17 minutes ago, ExNihilo said:

The Marvel box in the top left is a dead give away.

That and the spidey Logo in the direct box is platinum colored not silver, but if you haven't seen the two next to each other could be harder to distinguish.  Definitely that top is the easiest way.

[Artboy99]

6 hours ago, the blob said:

That is 1st of doomalina tho

Valeria?

[the blob]

2 hours ago, Artboy99 said:

Valeria?

something like that. my very old (early 2000s) cgc case did not even note it.

 

Edited May 13, 2021 by the blob

[Artboy99]

41 minutes ago, the blob said:

something like that. my very old (early 2000s) cgc case did not even note it.

 

I have a raw copy. Thanks.

[valiantman]

12 hours ago, MetaHuman said:

There's 120 other blue label Spider-Man #1 platinums out there plus 57 SS copies. Over 1 in 6 copies of this book (10,000 print run?) have been slabbed. Curious if this is the most slabbed book %-wise?

According to some person(s) in the Modern section, there are only 200 copies of Amazing Spider-Man #667 Dell'Otto variant and there are 59 CGC graded copies.  That's more than 1 in 4 (29.5%)... so either there are nearly 30% of all copies graded or the print run isn't 200. 

 

[theCapraAegagrus]

6 hours ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

...platinum colored not silver...

[musicmeta]

6 hours ago, Domo Arigato said:

That 9.9 in the Clink auction is the Wolverine Limited Series #1 from 1982.  And I agree....with only 27 CGC 9.9's showing on the census, it should go for quite a bit in the current market.

But the one I'm referring to in my post below is just the regular old Wolverine #1 from the 1988 series that ran for 190 issues......a book that has 2,255 copies graded at CGC 9.8 on the census.  Until earlier this year, it was about a $200 book.  Recently it's been going for four times that amount.  There also happens to be a 9.8 copy of it in the same Clink auction.....so we'll see if this trend continues for it.

 

Did we have an infusion of new collectors all of a sudden this year that all want Wolverine #1?  Just surprising this issue has taken off so fast so soon.  Amazing. 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

1 hour ago, Angel of Death said:

7 hours ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

...platinum colored not silver...

 

It is subtle, but there is a difference in hue. Similar to the AOS#500 Platinum and Platinum Error.  Here are high quality scans overlaid to show the difference. 

[the blob]

1 hour ago, musicmeta said:

Did we have an infusion of new collectors all of a sudden this year that all want Wolverine #1?  Just surprising this issue has taken off so fast so soon.  Amazing. 

I have always been able to sell nice raw copies of the book, even here, but we were talking $30-50. It was not MCP 1 or anything, which was a dollar box book.

[theCapraAegagrus]

2 minutes ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

It is subtle, but there is a difference in hue. Similar to the AOS#500 Platinum and Platinum Error.  Here are high quality scans overlaid to show the difference.