lostboys Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Thanks for reading. If the book looks otherwise perfect but the bottom corner of the binding side is dinged... would that be considered NM? the color isn't affected in any way...just a small bend to the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) I've seen an Avengers 92, 9.4 slab, with brilliant colour strike and looking fresh from the newsstand, graded as that with a very obvious, prominent, top right corner crunch. So, quite possible. Edited May 5, 2021 by Ken Aldred MetalPSI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I'd call it whatever I want What CGC or other 3rd party graders think is something else BoogieWoogie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr. Dank said: I'd call it whatever I want What CGC or other 3rd party graders think is something else Okay. If you're buying a raw book that is described as NM and it ends up having a small corner bend...would you be cool with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, lostboys said: Okay. If you're buying a raw book that is described as NM and it ends up having a small corner bend...would you be cool with that? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, Dr. Dank said: No So...VF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, lostboys said: So...VF? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 pics? It's all theoretical otherwise... djzombi, KPR Comics and F For Fake 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 If it is otherwise perfect in could see 9.0 or 9.2 if it is not bad. I had a 9.4 asm 300 with at least 5 cb spine ticks. I sold it for $99 because I thought it was terribly overgraded. Stupid. BoogieWoogie, ADAMANTIUM and Cliff R. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpoolica Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Yes Iconic1s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Thurgood Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said: I've seen an Avengers 92, 9.4 slab, with brilliant colour strike and looking fresh from the newsstand, graded as that with a very obvious, prominent, top right corner crunch. So, quite possible. Agreed! Pics have been posted here of books CGC graded as 9+ that have such dings. But the OP should show a pic of the size of the defect for comparison. djzombi and Ken Aldred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoogieWoogie Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 It depends on the size of the ding and exactly what it is. Isn't something smaller than 1/16th of an inch generally just considered manufacturing and disregarded if it's a small bindery tear? But yeah if everything else is sharp then a small bindery issue wouldn't keep it from being NM if it's small enough... djzombi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimebuster Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I have a cgc 9.6 with an obvious non color breaking bend on the bottom spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diaolos Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Not sure what you would call this but believe it or not both 9.8 F For Fake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrevvy Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 See the lower right corner: Astonishing Tales #25 (Marvel, 1974) CGC NM+ 9.6 White pages.... | Lot #11072 | Heritage Auctions (ha.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Diaolos said: Not sure what you would call this but believe it or not both 9.8 The Avengers 92 9.4 I mentioned had a very obvious, rippled corner crush in this location, far worse than that. Not a 9.8, not noticeably colour-breaking, but still fugly for a NM 9.4 on an otherwise amazing-looking book. One of my favourite Adams covers, and memorable for that reason. Edited May 5, 2021 by Ken Aldred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted May 5, 2021 Author Share Posted May 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Diaolos said: Not sure what you would call this but believe it or not both 9.8 That's a perfect example of what I'm asking. It was more a general question and not about a specific book I own. So...take a ding that size, move it to a corner on the other side of the book and call it a bend because it would affect every page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I think it really depends on the overall condition of the book. If the book is otherwise flat, sharp, and free of defects, and a tiny ding is the only issue, then probably, yes. 9.4 at least, which is really "near mint". I'm surprised to see the 9.8's with those issues, though. I know 9.8's aren't "perfect", but a really obvious crunch like these would definitely knock it out of NM/Mint or NM+ territory if i were personally listing the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Also, I've had 9.6's that looked absolutely flawless, and 9.8s that had dings all down the spine. It's worth remembering that CGC grading has never been consistent, sometimes it is loose, sometimes it is tight, so the grade can also depend heavily on the date/timeframe it was graded within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, F For Fake said: Also, I've had 9.6's that looked absolutely flawless, and 9.8s that had dings all down the spine. It's worth remembering that CGC grading has never been consistent, sometimes it is loose, sometimes it is tight, so the grade can also depend heavily on the date/timeframe it was graded within. Had a Aliens 1 9.6 with multiple spine ticks, had another that I'd call flawless My 9.8 has a couple of ticks Edited May 5, 2021 by Dr. Dank F For Fake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
