jduran1 Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Assuming everything else about the book is perfect. 9.8 How many stress lines allowed and how long. 9.6 How many stress lines allowed """""""""""""" 9.4 How many stress lines allowed""""""""""""""" 9.2 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 9.0"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Overstreet is not clear about this. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 Assuming everything else about the book is perfect. 9.8 How many stress lines allowed and how long. 9.6 How many stress lines allowed """""""""""""" 9.4 How many stress lines allowed""""""""""""""" 9.2 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 9.0"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Overstreet is not clear about this. thanks. My own personal interpretation of the OSGG is this: 9.8: None. 9.6: One, if the rest of the book is perfect and if the spine stress is 1/16 of an inch or smaller and doesn't fully break color. I might allow a very slightly abraded spine corner along with the single stress line. 9.4: As many as three, if they are faint, less than 1/8 of an inch, and if the rest of the book is sharp. 9.2: As many as five or six, if they are faint and less than 1/8 of an inch, and if the rest of the book is sharp. 9.0: As many as seven or eight, if they are faint and less than 1/8 of an inch, and if the rest of the book is sharp. If you have significant spine stresses (fully breaking color and/or longer than 1/8 of an inch) it changes the analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 9.8: None. I have seen CGC 9.8s with two or three color breaking spine stresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jduran1 Posted December 17, 2005 Author Share Posted December 17, 2005 Do you have a picture of one .thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 9.8: None. I have seen CGC 9.8s with two or three color breaking spine stresses. That is just ridiculous. Anyway, I was talking about my interpretation of OSGG. I have seen a CGC 9.8 book with a 1/4 inch spine stress mark/production ding, but it was a production issue that was common to all copies of the book, so that was the explanation for allowing it. (Personally, I think the best a book like that could get is a 9.2/9.4) This is Avengers #500 Director's Cut, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 9.8: None. I have seen CGC 9.8s with two or three color breaking spine stresses. That is just ridiculous. Are you saying that book shouldn't have gotten a 9.8, or are you calling me a liar? If you don't believe me, PM klozd24-7. It's his copy of Maxx 35 and he can verify it. I have seen the book in person, and the spine stresses are there. Not sure what else I can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 9.8: None. I have seen CGC 9.8s with two or three color breaking spine stresses. That is just ridiculous. Are you saying that book shouldn't have gotten a 9.8, or are you calling me a liar? If you don't believe me, PM klozd24-7. It's his copy of Maxx 35 and he can verify it. I have seen the book in person, and the spine stresses are there. Not sure what else I can say. Andy, you need to chill out. I was not calling you a liar. I was saying that it is ridiculous to give the book a 9.8, so put away the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted December 17, 2005 Share Posted December 17, 2005 9.8: None. I have seen CGC 9.8s with two or three color breaking spine stresses. That is just ridiculous. Are you saying that book shouldn't have gotten a 9.8, or are you calling me a liar? If you don't believe me, PM klozd24-7. It's his copy of Maxx 35 and he can verify it. I have seen the book in person, and the spine stresses are there. Not sure what else I can say. Andy, you need to chill out. I was not calling you a liar. I was saying that it is ridiculous to give the book a 9.8, so put away the gun. Sorry. I wish my scanner was legal sized so I could take a good picture of it. We were both pretty surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Smooth Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Assuming everything else about the book is perfect. 9.8 How many stress lines allowed and how long. 9.6 How many stress lines allowed """""""""""""" 9.4 How many stress lines allowed""""""""""""""" 9.2 """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" 9.0"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" Overstreet is not clear about this. thanks. 9.8 IF the rest of the book is flawless....maybe. It depends on how big the stress is and if its on a dark part of the comic. 9.6 Maybe 1 or 2 at the most as long as they are tiny and dont break color too badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheradon Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think if a cgc 9.8 has 2 or 3 color breaking stress lines, then it was a mistake made by cgc when they graded it. Perhaps it got overlooked or more likely got mis-labeled. I've seen many label errors regarding publisher, volume #, date, etc, so why not a grade? I personally do not believe it could have been seen, and consiously given a 9.8 grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Smooth Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think if a cgc 9.8 has 2 or 3 color breaking stress lines, then it was a mistake made by cgc when they graded it. Perhaps it got overlooked or more likely got mis-labeled. I've seen many label errors regarding publisher, volume #, date, etc, so why not a grade? I personally do not believe it could have been seen, and consiously given a 9.8 grade. I couldnt agree with you more. 1, I can understand if the rest of the book is flawless, but 2 or 3....error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qproper Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 just got a lower grading for "spine stress lines" on a untouched comic from 20 years ago and an untouched direct from store comic to cgc; really 2nd guessing sending in more of my collection; seems like it has more value sitting inside my box; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoWitHurts Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 50 minutes ago, qproper said: just got a lower grading for "spine stress lines" on a untouched comic from 20 years ago and an untouched direct from store comic to cgc; really 2nd guessing sending in more of my collection; seems like it has more value sitting inside my box; I think CGC has more recently weaponized their grades to make the other company's grades look sub par. I think a 9.8 can have one faint stress mark. After all a 9.8 isn't a perfect book. When buying raw I prefer to buy books with no spine stress lines whether they are 9.8 or 9.0 because they bug me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcjames Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 How many cb-ticks can you spot on this 9.6? Shoomanfoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Woah, a 12 year thread-cromancy! Now that's impressive! PS. Oh yeah and I have an ASM 252 9.8 SS with 3-4 small cbcs myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoomanfoo Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 8:48 PM, jcjames said: How many cb-ticks can you spot on this 9.6? 3 pretty deep ones and about 7 or so more...lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcjames Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Obi-Wan said: 3 pretty deep ones and about 7 or so more...lots. Yep, I counted at least 10: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Shepherd Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 On 11/15/2017 at 1:36 PM, WoWitHurts said: I think CGC has more recently weaponized their grades to make the other company's grades look sub par. I think a 9.8 can have one faint stress mark. After all a 9.8 isn't a perfect book. When buying raw I prefer to buy books with no spine stress lines whether they are 9.8 or 9.0 because they bug me. This is true about a 9.8 not being a perfect book. A 9.8 can have a faint stress mark or two, but the rest of the book has to be exceptional, with four sharp corners and a smooth front and back cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 On 12/16/2005 at 7:10 PM, october said: I have seen CGC 9.8s with two or three color breaking spine stresses. Yes! I've also seen 9.6's have nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
