Keep in the game and hone your grading skills.
Why spend all the money? To sharpen your grading skills. Grading is an art, but with all things worth while it takes the commitment of time, effort, and money.
I've only sent in 33 comics so far to get graded. I keep a list to compare what I think the comic grades before encapsulation and then what it grades after CGC certifies it. Both my 1st and 2nd batch that I sent off, I didn't get any right at all (and 2 were even restored). The most recent batch I got 3 out of 15 correct. The difference this time is that I purchased a copy of "The Official Overstreet Comic Book Grading Guide".
It's full of lots of pictures of each grade, and gets you to start looking at your comics from an unbiased position. Now those small creases, impacted corners, and spine stress marks stand out.
Yes, I agree initially sending in lots of comics to CGC is expensive (if your on a tight budget) and disappointing when you expect lots of 9.4 back and only get 7.5s to 9.2s, but wouldn't you like to in the future look through a stack of a Dealer's raw NM- and be able to cherry pick out the 9.6s and 9.8s?
Expert grading skills are priceless. I'm not there yet, but, I'm working on it.
Copy of 13
What is the FMV of the more rarely graded issues?
Just wondering exactly how someone determines the value of a CGC 9.4 9.6 or 9.8 without the price listed in the guide. Are they 2x, 4x or the 9.2 worth?
why spend all the money
Why spend all the money to get a book graded, when all you have to do is buy them on ebay. I sent a couple of books into ebay spending alot of money on them to get graded. I wnet on ebay and got the same books with better grades at 3/4 the cost. I guess I would never have gotten these books if someone didn't send them in. All I know is that I am never sending another book into get graded. I will let that to the rest of you guys.
Why the resistance?
I recently took a trip to Connecticut from North Carolina to visit my sister. I made sure to plan spare time to visit the many comic book stores in the area during my trip. I was in THE HUNT for several items. One book was Infinite Crisis #3 which seemed to have a common defect of a ripped or wrinkled page. This defect was in every copy of every store I went to in North Carolina and every store except for one in Connecticut. While in THE HUNT, I also have been actively browsing and purchasing CGC'd books I am looking for. I went to one store (which will remain nameless) and after looking around, I asked the owner of the medium sized shop if he had any CGC'd books. As a Marine Staff Non-Commissioned Officer, I have a talent for reading people, and I can tell you I was reading such a look of disdain from this man. After looking at me and not replying, I asked if he had any "slabbed" books, to which he replied with a curt "no". It became very obvious he did not like a stranger in his store of overpriced, poor condition back issue comics asking for a guaranteed high quality book. As a former brick and mortar comic book shop owner in Swansboro, NC, I make it a habit to buy something in any comic book shop I visit. Hey, it costs money to keep the lights on so we can browse. I did not buy anything at this shop. I am happy to report that several other shops I visited on Saturday, January 14th were warm and receptive and did have CGC books on display or for sale. I have encountered this obvious disdain for CGC several times over the past year, from conventions to shops. One dealer from Canada at this past years Heroes Convention in Charlotte, NC, grew out of breath and flustered when I mentioned sending books off to CGC. He said he "hated" CGC and what it was doing to collectors market. Hated? Yikes! Imagine trying to hawk overpriced, sub par condition books now! I firmly believe the back issue market will remain strong as many folks still want to read original copies of their favorite books, smell the ink and feel the pages. However, it blows my mind that anyone spending any large amount of money on a comic, would not rather have a similar CGC'd copy, or want to send a high grade copy to CGC. I personally still enjoy sifting through back issue bins and finding suitable copies for possible submission to CGC. Well, this was a long winded journal entry! I promise to be shorter next week - Happy CGCing!
Just when I thought I was cool with it,
it just had to happen, I would leave myself penniless for around 2 months. I am sure all of us have all experienced this dilemma at one point in time or another, I'm better now. At least if I was gonna be broke temporarily, it was for a good reason---Comics.
Where is all this taking me?
I am not a comics collector per say and I do not consider myself one. But today I opened some boxes I had stached in the attic for years, it contained many comic books that I had purchased more than ten years ago with the intent to give them to my two boys who from time to time would come to visit me from Georgia. However, they were never interested enought in them as the new fad of entertaiment at the time (well it still is) was video games. And so most of them remained in their original mint condition inside the original plastic covers. My big surprise today was to find out how many I had actually purchased (mostly Superman Series comic books) and the unique editions I had in my collection. It included the entire series of the "Death of Superman" as well as "The Reign of the Supermen" all in near mint condition. There was even one signed by Dan Jurgen together with a certificate of autenticity.
The first thing that came to mind was - how much are these worth now? In my research I came to find out the CGC could really help me find an accurate value to the comics in my collection. Well lets see where is all taking me now!
Are anymore surprises still out there?
As the advent of CGC has caused me to reevaluate my collection and reaquire higher graded books or submit my own high grade copies, I wonder if it is still possible to find high grades in a yard sale, flea market or some other venue. I remember coming across a run of Tales of Suspense from issues 47-70. This was 1987 and the store was named Bayshore Comics and Cards in West Haven, Ct. Sadly, the store is no longer there. The gentlemen who owned it was preparing to overhaul his collection and was pushing a lot of books cheap. I am now a pretty strict grader and fondly remember these books to be in VG/FN (5.0) to VF (8.0) with a few that may have been higher. I paid $2 for most of them and $4 for some of them. I was 15 years old and loved Iron Man. I remember trading those gems for some over priced Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle books in New Haven, Ct. I am sure most collectors have a similar story of great comics gone bad, or a story of finding gold and trading for some Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. I have been forced to reevaluate my collection and have decided I want to create a legacy to my family of high graded CGC books. This means a lot of my mostly silver and early bronze age books do not pass muster for the CGC 9.0 and higher (the bar I have set for my submission and collection). I recently sold my Hulk 181 (CGC 5.5), House of Secrets 92 (CGC 5.0), and Giant Size X-Men 1 (CGC 6.0), for that reason. I do admit however to keeping my Amazing Spider-Man books at 6.5 and higher. While I was manning my table at a convention last month, a fellow seller and I debated this practice and CGC in general. He subscibed to the fact that while some older books will not fetch a high grade, they are still worth higher prices due to their scarcity, age, and value of being able to opened and read. None of his books would reach 8.0 or higher and he accepted that. I understand his point and feel that if I have a book CGC'd, I normally have the trade or beat up reading copy to read when I want to. The beauty of CGC is the thrill of the hunt. Case in point, I am actively seeking a 9.0 or higher House of Secrets 92, first Swamp Thing. I have seen 9.0 copies going for $700-800 on E-bay, and several unslabbed books at conventions here in North Carolina. When I see 9.0 and the census still has higher graded copies out there, the question becomes do I shoot for the 9.0 now, or hold out for higher priced higher graded slabbed books, or do I stay in the hunt, browsing every shop, flea market, yard sale and convention I come across. I imagine one day coming across some out of the way odds and ends shop, and finding some still strapped pile of comics from 1971, with the hunted House of Secrets in it. Possible? Though improbable- I think it's more exciting to stay in the hunt! Good luck in you hunt and Happy CGCing!
I was wondering where Collectors' Society members like to shop in order toget their comics and sports cards
I was wondering where Collectors' Society members favorite places to get comics and sports cards. I like to preorder my comics from ebay member sector2814comics. He has an ebay store, has decent prices, ships stuff in a box(i hate it when people ship stuff in an envelope and it gets bent up) and bends over backwards for his customers. His website will open up around this spring. Anybody reading this entry is interested in checking him out, the ebay store name is sector2814 comics.
20% vs 10%-Awesome! Not being able to check status-Ugh!
Heritage Auctions (as well as various other CGC submission affiliates) offers a great 20% discount on submissions entered through their website and enters their own customer/dealer # on the form. I sent off a shipment of 28 books and received an $84 discount (the price of grading almost 6 modern books). Had I sent off my shipment through the Collectors' Society, I would have received a 10% discount which would have equaled $42 (Almost 3 modern books). The downside here is that the Collectors' Society member has no way to track their shipment with the heritage service. Who doesn't like checking their order status daily to see their grades as soon as they are ready? Perhaps we can talk our Society into matching the discount? Heck I would be happy with 15%! I just hit the 90 CGC graded comic mark and cannot tell you how happy I am with the service provided and how re-energized I have become in my collecting. Though I buy on E-Bay, no way am I giving up my hard earned books! Thanks for the read-Happy CGCing!
Please Santa bring me a great grade
Man this is worse then Christmas. Waiting on 3 comics I sent into get graded. They are grading them right now and i feel like a kid again. I just hope I get what I want and not coal in my stocking. I have been a good boy I know I have.
Better late than never.
Been wanting to join for some time now but never bothered for one reason or another.I stopped collecting comics about 15 or so years ago-I had to choose between comics or sportscards-but never lost my love of a good story or match-up.I've been picking up Wizard magazine for some time now and I'm TOTALLY lost with what's going on in the Marvel and DC universe but still enjoy reading it from cover to cover.(I'll probably wind up subscribing to it.)Anyway,I still have around 400 or so comics left-my peach being Hulk 181- and would like to get around to getting most of them graded and moving them.
Burned on EBAY too many times.
I hope I've learned my lesson. I'm tired of getting burned on raw books on ebay. I bought an AMZ SM #3 that looked to be VG. When I got it I was very happy with the cover, but the pages were brittle and after flipping through the book the spine split on 1/2 the pages all the way to the staple. I wrote the seller and he agreed to refund 1/2 my price, which at the time, I thought was fair: bringing my investment to $96.00 However, after a few more viewings, pages started coming completely out. I can't really blame the seller since I had the opportunity to return the book, but chose the $96 price.
I hope I learn to be smartewr in the future. Buying slabbed books is definitely safer, but you can't read them. What to do? Buy reprints for reading, but its not as much fun. Go figure.
I've got Amazing Spiderman #1;
I love statistics;
I love the "art" of grading.
So, I got a copy of Amazing Spider-man #1 and the pages are all intact. But the cover is scuffed up. I figure, if I sell it as a GD and it turns out to be a GD/VG, that would be a $400 mistake. I also want to be fair to myself and to my future buyer--so an independent grader makes sense.
I also love grading and what better way to learn than to get close to the masters.
Statistics on comics is fun, too. I sometimes think I would rather read Overstreet's Price Guide than read the comics themselves.
You strive for the best, so what do you do with your not so HG slabs? Replace them with better in a kindof turnover basis?
I love collecting comic books for both their Artistry as well as their Story lines and/or Characters. I tend to lean towards the "Amazing Spider-Man" as well as the "Uncanny X-Men" lines. Throughout my collection, I have chosen many of which to be graded. Most of these books came direct from shelf to bag/board before leaving the Comic Store. I have multiples and I thought I would toss out a few to be graded. Most did rather well, although out of 5 ASM #238s, The best score I got was a 7.5, 6.0, and a 4. Many of those were purchased online but my highest score was one of my personal reader copies. I love the thrill of just knowing that I have some CGC 9.9s but nothing to write home about..
Well until tomorrow..
I recently purchased an ASM #300. I bought it as a VF-NM- Really looked sharp, But....
When I submitted the book to CGC, they found that there had been some type of color restoration performed. It got a 7.5
I just never expected to have received a Restored version of this great comic. It is not a bad thing, but it throws my whole color schemes off... Blue--Yesllow--Green---, and now I get to add a --Purple. Oh well.. Such is life?
Can't seem to find a correct appraisal of a CGC 9.8 and a 9.6 for Amazing Spider-Man #300
I have checked previous auction histories, as well as the GPA, Comic Price Guide (CPG), and other resources and still can't seem to nail down a price. All the data I see continually changes, as does the market.
I am slowly amassing my own set of HG Slabbed ASM, and Uncanny X-men. I should be receiving a total of 7 CGC graded books from my latest submissions over the next couple weeks. I am going crazy with anticipation...
In other words, I Can't Wait!!
Annoying newbie question
Hey I just registered with the cgc, and read everything about
submitting my books, but I have one burning question. How the hell do I find the submission form, I can't find it anywhere throughout this website, and their office is closed due to it
being the weekend and what not. Can someone tell me how to find
the submission form or paste a link for me, gracious.
Zombie licking good!
Hey guys just wanted to say hi, Im a huge zombie fan. I love the
walking dead series by Robert Kirkman, and Steve Niles, Remains.
If anyone can think of any other good zombie books drop me a line, thanks.
I have been slowly trying to get my Uncanny X-Men series as well as my Amazing Spiderman serie's holes patched.
It will take me a long time and a lot of money I know.... To fill in holes in my various X-Men and ASM sets, while uncovering jewels or diamonds in the rough so to speak....
Hurricane Wilma Hits Florida, CGC Closed due to weather
Well, I guess I cannot find out my grades today on my 3 issues I submitted to CGC. Their offices are closed today due to weather, but will be opened tomorrow..Tuesday.
I hope that all is well with all of them and their families, considering their offices are locate in Sarasota, FL.
Wish them all luck...