Mr Wiggles

Is there a Constantinople variant?

Wordpress is great if you have 10 different items to sell and don't care about security. This is a good read if you are trying to decide between the two. MCS seems to be an option for hot books/keys. Everything else is filled with inventory of their own and consignment.

Too expensive? Seems to be the cheap method of doing a domain yourself without vast knowledge of shopping carts, security, etc...

Y the Last Man

Fantastic news!

the first two make no sense. Yeah...the first two are from the same new (feedback of 3) seller. Shilled all the way. They look like placeholders for private deals using eBay/PayPal as a secure payment transfer. Possible...very possible.... I guess my mind isn't deviant enough. I would never thought of an idea like this. But with $900 prices vs $50, doesn't that meen more fees to eBay?? It is more fees but the cost is the cost if you want a secure money transfer. I used to see these on a daily basis when eBay fees were much smaller but it doesn't shock me they still exist.

the first two make no sense. Yeah...the first two are from the same new (feedback of 3) seller. Shilled all the way. They look like placeholders for private deals using eBay/PayPal as a secure payment transfer.

Thanks for the joke PM. Friday isn't complete without laughs from the boards.

Why waste time on putting a thread together? I'll buy them now. Just send the PM.

Send me a PM on what you consider "cheap".

How cool! I'd love to own a copy of this as well.

I think the initial mock-up works great. I also agree with CAHokie, the list will have very few people over time. The PIF thread has been operating over a year and this is the first individual that even crossed the line for nomination. The Secret Santa and Charity threads seem to have a similar history for baddies being a rarity.

My apologies. I misread over the "existing" in that sentence as the previous few replies (and paragraph) were not in the same vein. This I can get behind

Let's not misappropriate my use of the word "centralize". I said I wanted centralization of the baddies in a uniform PL. You are still advocating against that. I'm also not looking to reorganize the forums, as you are with the idea of grouping contests, PIF, and SS together in their own section. I'm not interested in a debate about poll length or reorganization of the forums. The discussion at hand is the addition of PIF baddies to the PL. A simple addition to the PL of a board member who has failed to carry out their end of a transaction conducted on the boards. This is not a "rush to justice" but the exact same approach that is used in any other PL nominee. I don't know how much more "orderly" I can be presenting the discussion as it is.

I would argue the act of conducting a transaction online is would constitute the same venue. Money exchanging hands makes a transaction differ but it doesn't remove the venue. This doesn't change that both polls show support for PIF baddies on the PL list. Why change what is already working? I don't think boardies are looking for a re-organization of the threads that are already working, whether they partake in them or not. Just that all baddies are listed in a central location. If you'd like users to refer to threads for their individual rules, or make a distinction that someone on the PL violated PIF/SS rules rather than sale forums rules, a simple distinction provides that. This retains a central location for all forum baddies but provides the distinction that you want to see made. Only if you choose to make it more. The bare bones are still the same. Anyone nominated to the PL list violated agreed upon terms to conduct a transaction. I'm leaving out terms like "on the boards" and "online" as the PL already provides for distinction outside of the forums (eBay and in person). Distinctions are already made. The PL, I'm assuming, was created to protect boardies from potential grief in dealing with someone who doesn't hold up their end of the agreement. Expanding to allow PIF goes hand in hand with that desire to protect. A great reason to have a centralized PL.

So the argument for not adding PIF baddies to the PL list is that you had to go through hoops to create something new so PIF should do the same? Why dilute the good information the PL list provides by spreading the baddies across multiple threads? Why not have the hard work you, and others, put in expand to help protect even more? I don't understand this territorial mindset of not allowing all those who pose a potential risk to boardies, based on previous behavior, be easily found in a central location (the PL list). If the idea is to protect boardies, this is how you protect them in a greater capacity than to dilute the information across multiple threads. Both polls indicate this is what the boardies want to see (75% yes on skypinkblu's poll). A central location for those who pose a potential risk.

I've seen posts alluding to the Secret Santa addition and yours claiming it didn't happen. If not I'll gladly debate the extent the term "transaction" defines. Or we can just let the poll go, which seems to be where you're heading and I'm also fine with.

So if someone was previously added under with a failure to send via the Secret Santa thread does that qualify PIF to now be a transaction? They both follow the same formula of sending goods to someone who isn't sending back to you. Doesn't seem murky at all.

We should have a poll about the poll options. That is certainly relevant. What other options are there? The argument seems to be yes or no. Why muddle it with more nonsense? I'm still not certain why this is an argument to begin with if every PL addition isn't debated on whether their exchange involved "junk" or not. Value judgments are a bad path to go down when it involves trying to protect board members from potential, future deals gone bad.

We should have a poll about the poll options. That is certainly relevant.

I like this,it's simple and makes the process more organized. I think there was someone from a Christmas rafflle who refused to mail to England, EVEN when the winner offered to pay postage. I think the winner was AnfieldFox, don't remember the person who would not mail the item. Seems like a simple solution to me.

Ha! http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/07/25/ebay-members-scam-amazing-fantasy-15-scammer/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Glad to see I'm not the only one who simply can not wait.

Congrats! You've got a long-haul reader in me and a few of my friends (I didn't have to twist any arms).