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Book is swiftly approaching 'the 10K-a-point-level'. That is rarefied air ....

what it go for? the C-cnect Cap 1 moderate cgc 7.5 trimmed. cant find it

I have to admit that I was a little surprised about the Tec 36 price being so high, but then again, nothing surprises me in the Pre-Robin Tec world anymore. As for the Tec 27, possibly the fact that it was incomplete and didn't have the best page quality kept it under 30k. I think that is pretty close to the mark price wise. There just isn't anything available in any type of lower price range. The 6.5 Extensive went for 107+ and I think that is pretty close to the buy in price for any complete copy. I think a nice interior would bring 40K range.. At this point it seems there are 3 or 4 action 1 for every detective 27 we are seeing. James G In the long run a 3:1 /4:1 ratio marketwise could tip the balance between the big two. A least if one is expecting to see the supply vs. demand equation kick in. Or ... ? did I miss something. Then I will gladly be educated

a Low grade tec27: There is Bunky's blue 1.8. "only" 375K it's actually $275k Didn't a 2.5 sell for $215 on c link in 9/13? that particular data point is probably ancient history in the tec27 realm ... -J. that particular data point is probably ancient history in the tec27 realm ...

Oh, well then...in that case, I'll take two!! You are right, it is 275K (not that it makes much of a difference in my budget though )

a Low grade tec27: There is Bunky's blue 1.8. "only" 375K

No. I'm looking to buy an AF #15 and as I look I just have never observed any sales that follow the advice you guys are giving (e.g., I have yet to see a restored copy for sale at 20% of the unrestored price) in the lower grades. So, I am taking your advice as a "I have yet to observe it in the wild" type of thing, in the context of AF #15. Further, I'm saying give me a heads up if anyone actually sees someone selling a restored AF 15 at 20% of what an unrestored goes for, because at that price I'd actually be interested. The advice was useful/interesting, I'm now going to need to see how it bears up in the reality of actually buying an AF #15 because the SELLERS I'm seeing are certainly going for the gusto on the prices they're asking on restored books (especially trimmed ones), which is certainly not following this guidance, so thanks for the advice everyone. I'm really trying to understand (based on data I'm seeing not matching the advice), not argue. Ok. FYI - I bought a CGC professional extensively restored 9.0 AF15 for 15% of the GPA recorded Blue label price at the time (a little less than two years ago) and sold it recently for 25% of the GPA recorded Blue label price. Book was NOT trimmed, but had plenty of other work done to it. Restored values have been increasing but not hugely. What have been increasing are unrealistic online and eBay prices that have not typically ended in sales. AF15s are very common, just expensive. Bide your time and you should be able to get what you want within reason. lemme see: AF 15 9.0 blue = 200Kish you sold an ext resto AF 15 9.0 for 25% of that. I.e. 50K Couldn't use the Feb sale, I guess my gauge of recently was a little off. 9.0 quote was $150K. Rounded a bit on the percentage, but yeah. What is your point? Wow - congrats ...

No. I'm looking to buy an AF #15 and as I look I just have never observed any sales that follow the advice you guys are giving (e.g., I have yet to see a restored copy for sale at 20% of the unrestored price) in the lower grades. So, I am taking your advice as a "I have yet to observe it in the wild" type of thing, in the context of AF #15. Further, I'm saying give me a heads up if anyone actually sees someone selling a restored AF 15 at 20% of what an unrestored goes for, because at that price I'd actually be interested. The advice was useful/interesting, I'm now going to need to see how it bears up in the reality of actually buying an AF #15 because the SELLERS I'm seeing are certainly going for the gusto on the prices they're asking on restored books (especially trimmed ones), which is certainly not following this guidance, so thanks for the advice everyone. I'm really trying to understand (based on data I'm seeing not matching the advice), not argue. Ok. FYI - I bought a CGC professional extensively restored 9.0 AF15 for 15% of the GPA recorded Blue label price at the time (a little less than two years ago) and sold it recently for 25% of the GPA recorded Blue label price. Book was NOT trimmed, but had plenty of other work done to it. Restored values have been increasing but not hugely. What have been increasing are unrealistic online and eBay prices that have not typically ended in sales. AF15s are very common, just expensive. Bide your time and you should be able to get what you want within reason. lemme see: AF 15 9.0 blue = 200Kish you sold an ext resto AF 15 9.0 for 25% of that. I.e. 50K

Arent most of the restored Mega Keys pre-CGC era jobs Edit: I was under the impression that with the arrival of CGC, resto books were in a non-legit way stigmatized (given "the plod") as products of ill intent. I.e. "deathrow books" that longtime collectors got burned on. I could be wrong though ...

so, what did the resto grade turn out to be? mod 8.0

Jesus ...

It could be twice that and Bat 1s would still be one of the most under-valued books out there, at least when you compare it to the values other books are getting. Superman 1 is approaching six figures in good, and many would not question question 8K bids to date on the likes of a 9.9 ASM from the 'copper age.' There might be more Bat 1s than the average GA key but it's also a lot more than an average key, and huge numbers of extant copies doesn't seem to make a lot of difference in the prices realized on many other books with existing numbers much higher and significance much lower. Well put. "Huge numbers" may be a bit excessive as we're still talking about a GA book, but I understand where you're coming from. Despite recent upticks in prices for this book, it still has a lot of room to grow. When I said "huge numbers" i was referring to other books, not Batman 1 Bat 1 has more known existing copies than Superman 1, but far far below the numbers of any silver age key, let alone bronze age books. There are silver and bronze books which sell for more than 12K in high grades. If you look at Hulk 181, for example, there are more copies in "nosebleed" grades of that issue than there are total existing copies of Batman 1 in any condition. Yet people pay for them who would never buy that low grade Batman 1 because they believe that only high grade books are valuable and don't stop to think how the total numbers should affect the value. Should the market cap (the value of all existing copies) of Hulk 181 be more than the market cap of Detective 27? I wouldn't think so. But if you take the prices realized for the copies in various grades, and then multiply it by the number of existing copies in all those grades, the market cap of Hulk 181 would far exceed Tec 27. But how would the figures hold if there was a sell-off. I doubt the value of Tec 27 would fall too far if ten percent of all existing copies came available in the same month. But do that with Hulk 181 and it would be a disaster. Are there more than 200 nosebleed Hulk 181s ?

once considered a soft book. now il never get one

This has a special meaning on this board - re: 10 years ago. Board classic! +1 Yeah, Mike Hammer poineered it ...

It was Avengers 1 - spine pressed to the back, went from 8.5 to 9.2...here's the link: http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=6483041&fpart=1 . Classic was 13k at 8.5.... Spine roll restro 9.2... 85k good for the individual flipper sooo bad for the hobby overall