Jaydogrules

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  1. Looks like it's back on. https://www.yahoo.com/movies/spider-man-spinoff-venom-revived-at-sony-220632770.html?nhp=1 -J.
  2. Despite some of the occasional negative jibber-jabber about modern variants, they in fact are some of, if not the most, valuable and highly sought after books of the modern age. I recently decided to do an analysis of the values of the current top variants in the hobby, and rank them in value. Obviously this list will be fluid, but as of now, these are your top books. In coming up with the list I gave the most weight to historical 9.8 sales. I included all label colours. Where the books are so rarely offered in that (or any) grade I factored in strength of 9.6 and down grade sales, in addition to raw sales. All closed sales used are public information (meaning I did not count private sales even if I personally knew them to be valid). Where the rankings were close I used the strength of non-9.8 sales and raw copies as a tie-breaker. The criteria: 1) Book must be at least three years old. No newly released "hot" variants were used, as we all know, the vast majority of them do not hold value. The books used need to have shown some kind of staying power; 2) No recalled/error books were used. Those are not "variants" as intended by the publishers; 3) First prints only; 4) Blank covers and/or sketched books were not considered. With these standards in place I came up with a "Dirty Dozen" list of books. Not very many at all, considering how many variants are released by the publishers in a given year. The list is so small, in fact, that it validates the warnings by many who advise against "over-spending" on a variant the day (or even year) it comes out. But these books are the exception. They are the cream of the crop. The diamonds in the rough. These are your modern variant keys: #12- Batman #1 Sketch Cover (2011)- Batman, Batman, Batman. It's not surprising that the most popular DC character would have a spot (or two) on this list. This hard to find cover easily breaks $1k in a 9.8 nowadays, and why not? It's the first issue in the run in one of the best artistic pairings on the title ever. #11- Amazing Spider-Man #688, J. Scott Campbell (2012)- Did you really think we'd get very far on this list without seeing a JSC? Typically known for his pin-up work, this cover by him is actually kind of scary, and has broken $1500 in a 9.8 as the folks who missed it when it first came out (or did not even realize it was a JSC cover) scramble to add it to their collections before it moves even further up the list. #10- Amazing Spider-Man #700, Ditko (2013)- A ridiculous 1:200 ratio made this ridiculously expensive right out the gate, with some SS copies skyrocketing as high as $4000 upon its initial release. It has since settled down, but a recent uptick in prices, coupled with the strength of its past sales earns this the #10 spot. #9- X-23 #1, Dell'Otto (2010)- Another great and hot artist lodges his first cover here. Combined with the fact that X-23 may be Marvel's hottest female character right now, a rumoured movie appearance, and a breath-taking cover, and you have a book that has been fetching $1300+ in a 9.8 and $600+ raw. #8- Saga #1 RRP (2012)- Image's premier issue of its second best selling title gets the nod here. A signed copy has gone for as much as $1900, and its cult status should keep this book held in high regard for years to come. #7- Walking Dead #100, Lucille/Red Foil Editions (2012)- The introduction of the iconic Negan in these crazy- rare issues has some people paying as much as $1800 for a 9.8 since word first leaked that he would (finally) be making his appearance in the show. Depending on how they ultimately end up depicting him there, these books could easily move up the list! #6- Siege #3, J. Scott Campbell (2010)- A bizarre retailer incentive that involved destroying other comic books, a super hot artist, and one of Marvel's most trendy characters flossing on the cover are the perfect recipe to catapult this book to $2000+ in a 9.8. #5- Batman #608 RRP (2002)- The granddaddy of the RRP's (and possibly all modern variants) makes the top 5. And why not? It's Batman, a first appearance of a new villain, and Part One of a story line that put the Batman title back on top. Oh yeah, and it has Jim Lee art. With prices at well over $3,000 for 9.8's and copies seeming to have disappeared into personal collections, don't expect to get this one on the cheap ever again (if you can even find one). #4- Uncanny X-Men #510 Partial Sketch Cover, J. Scott Campbell (2009)- Without a doubt the most valuable and hard to find convention book out there, 9.6 copies of these have sold for $2800, and only proves once again that Campbell + crazy rarity + beautiful pin-up art = salivating fans and $$$. All things considered, it wouldn't take much for this book to jump up higher on this list. #3- Wolverine #1, J. Scott Campbell (2010)- Yet another JSC cover, this one his best, lands at #3. Featuring a stocky Wolverine bulging out of Deadpool's costume, this book easily commands $3k+ in a 9.8 and is very strong in all down grades, as well as raw. It was another "destroy comics" incentive to retailers, an incentive that was so derided in the industry that it has yet to be repeated, but resulted in a book with a very low print run and insatiable demand. It was the uber-high sales prices of this book a couple of years ago that really got the JSC train going at 100 miles per hour, and if it ever stops chugging along, people will still be paying big money for this book. #2- Amazing Spider-Man #678 (2012)- This now classic and oft-reprinted and homaged cover features Mary Jane in mid-possession by the alien symbiote known as Venom. Its character mash-up and spoof elements made it an instant hit right out of the gate and it never looked back. A 1:50 variant released when ASM sales were barely cracking 50,000, this book has gone for $3500 in a 9.8 (on the rare occasion they're offered), and still breaks $1000 in an 8.5! Raw copies routinely break $1000 and its scarcity on the market, its "modern grail" status, and presence in the ASM run should keep it at the top of this list for a very long time. #1- Amazing Spider-Man #667, Dell'Otto (2011)- Really? Like, what else was it going to be? We're talking about a book that sells in raw, 8.0'ish condition for $2500. Possibly one of the rarest books of all in the entire ASM run, this book is a completionist's nightmare, and a rare variant hunter's wet dream. Hardly ever offered for sale, in any condition, there have been rumours and reports that as few as ~200 of these were produced. Whether this is true or not, however few copies there are seem to have already disappeared into permanent collections, and it is a veritable feeding frenzy when a copy does find its way to market. If there is such a thing as "Golden Age rarity" in the Modern Age (whether that rarity is "manufactured" or not), the ASM 667 Dell'Otto has it, and at this rate, there could easily come a time when years go by without a copy seeing the light of day. Well there's the list. Not surprisingly it is Marvel, J. Scott Campbell, and ASM heavy. Let me know if you think I'm way off base or missed any that you think should be a part of the "Dirty Dozen" instead of the ones that I've selected. As I said, the list is fluid and I would like to keep it updated as the market moves and changes. Honourable mentions to Amazing Spider-man 648 Colour, J. Scott Campbell (2011), Amazing Spider-Man Presents: Black Cat #1, J. Scott Campbell (2010) and Uncanny X-Force #20, Venom Variant (2012). They don't quite make the cut now, but hey you never know what will happen later! If you made it this far, thanks for reading. It was fun to put together. -J.
  3. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    It's high time this cover artist have his own Appreciation Thread! I have been a big fan of Gabrielle Dell'Otto's work since he began working on ASM a few years back. He is quite simply an extremely gifted cover artist, and appears to work mostly in paint on canvas and/or chalk. His attention to detail in these mediums is unparalleled with much of his work being near museum quality. As fans, we are very fortunate to have an artist who so capably renders some of our favourite heroes and villains in the style of a true Renaissance master. Undoubtedly due to the time, detail and care Dell'otto devotes to his pieces, he is not prolific. As such most of his covers that have been used by both Marvel and DC (but mostly Marvel) look to be the more exclusive ones. Some of the rarest (and best) variants out there are Dell'otto covers, and many of them are very difficult to find on a day to day basis. So let's see your favourite Dell'otto covers guys! I'll start it off with a few of mine before they're sent off to catch some Florida sun. From left to right, ASM 682 (Part 1 Ends of the Earth) 1:15, ASM 667 (Part 1 Spider Island) 1:100, and ASM 3 1:25 From left to right, Uncanny X Men 1 1:50, X-23 1 1:50, and Cable and X Force 3 1:50 From left to right, Winter Soldier 1 (first in solo, ongoing title- good luck finding one of these! almost as hard to find as the ASM 667) 1:50 and Avengers Assemble 10 1:50 Obviously the ASM 667 is his best known and hardest to find piece. I've always liked its moody intensity, its simple yet striking layout, and of course Spidey in a classic pose. As an interesting side note, it was also just Dell'otto's second ASM cover and is one of only 3, 1:100's that he has done. Also, if you blinked, you missed this ebay listing that popped up late last night, and immediately sold just a few hours after going live: http://item.ebay.co.uk/331787648086?item_hash4=c5c2c701&LH_Complete=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_BO=1&_ipg=200&_pgn=1&rc=nt&rmvSB=true It was the first copy of any kind to hit ebay in six months. The Winter Soldier #1 cover is almost just as hard to find. It's probably also my #2 all time favourite by him. The composition of the painting, the lighting effects on the gun, what can I say. The man has talent. I will be updating the thread with a "club list" of boardies who own some of his best known books (i.e. the ASM 667 and X 23 1). If you posted your copy of the ASM 667 in the other thread please do so again here so I can update this new thread. Also, no haters please. This is an APPRECIATION THREAD. Thanks. -J.
  4. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    Glad to be of service. Oh, and welcome to the extraordinarily exclusive ASM 667 Dell'otto club. -J.
  5. Aquaman over achieved even the most rosy industry expectations. Venom did even more so. If you want to see a true clinic in bad amateur box office predicting try reading the earlier comments in the Venom thread lol. As for what aquaman does for DCEU who knows, all of their movies were profitable (execept JL) Venom has a better audience score on rotten tomatoes than this movie (not that I put any stock in that), but it won't hurt! But Venom certainly helped Sony and has officially launched their Spider-man-less movie-verse. -J.
  6. My calculations remain perfectly fine and reasonable. As I said before, nobody has done a deep forensics dive into this movie's actual books. If someone did the production budget alone would probably be closer to $250MM than the $200MM everyone and their mother is estimating, and lets not even start to get into the kinds of dollar one profit participation deals that my friend Bosco only likes to bring up on Marvel movies (when he's not low balling DC movie budgets to make their gross multipliers look far better than they actually are ;)), but my goodness if we applied to the exact same unknown formula to Venom that movie likely profited in excess of $200MM theatrically . But congratulations to Aquaman for doing the unthinkable and breaking the billion dollar mark. Let's see how much if that is actually profit the studio so far on big its big, dumb all in budget of (at least) $350MM- (According to box office mojo) China- $285MM @ 25%= $71MM North America- $288MM @ 50%= $144M Other Countries- $447MM @ 40%= $179MM Total to theatrical profit to WB- $44MM Starting to look decent now Aquaman but better keep swimming a little while longer to make sure. -J.
  7. Jaydogrules

    Captain America Comics #1 Club

    Good catch. And a solid $29.2K a point. -J.
  8. IM 55 does not have "Mark Jewelers" inserts, it only has a National Diamond Insert. I would like to see a photo of the underside of that slab to see if the tell tale blue and white edges of the Diamond Insert are visible to make sure it is really there. -J.
  9. I agree with you that WB took a loser of a character and turned it into box office gold. As DC's only movie release this year most believed the film would do well (I didn't, I still feel this movie is just another over bloated, un-focused DC CGI cartoon mess, it is not better than JL and is in fact worse than JL IMO) but I don't expect even the rosiest forecasts had it doing "this" well. But yes, like most comic book movies it is essentially a commercial for future product. But I still think Aquaman could have been a real home run financially theatrically had they shown even a modicum of restraint on the budget. (Interesting counterpoint to Venom which is almost the exact inverse of this movie with its much smaller budget, likely less than half all-in, no Spider-Man, and people not only didn't expect it to do as well as it did, they were in fact rooting against it, and it went on to generate a very healthy $150MM profit to the studio during its theatrical pass). Shazam, thankfully, looks to have gone more that route. -J.
  10. Jaydogrules

    Venom Movie

    Let's have a look! $855MM total theatrical haul. $150MM-$175MM estimated all in. Let's go with the high number for $175MM. (According to Box Office Mojo) China- $272MM @ 25%= $68MM North America- $213MM @ 50%= $106MM Other Foreign Territories- $370MM @ 40%= $148MM Total to Sony= $322MM ...for a $147MM profit theatrically. #sensiblebudgetsequalbetterprofits -J.
  11. Unreal. Sony has managed to make over 1.1BB on Spider-Man related properties in three months, basically without Spider-Man. -J.
  12. $940MM worldwide after this weekend. Unbelievable. Now let's see if it has made it into the black yet/how much with its big, dumb budget of $350MM- (According to Box Office Mojo) China- $261MM @ 25% = $65MM North America- $260MM @ 50%= $130MM Other Foreign Territories- $419MM @ 40%= $168MM Total to WB so far= $363MM Congratulations WB you're now officially in the black and have made about $13MM on your $350MM investment after a month of worldwide release. -J.
  13. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    Outstanding. -J.
  14. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    These things almost always trade privately so I'm glad to see a public sale that will be picked up by the likes of GPA and gocollect for posterity. Congrats again on the epic sale. -J.
  15. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    The seller just said it is. Much, much larger buyer pool on Ebay than comiclink especially for that kind of book. The 9.8 boardie sale for $12k a year ago was a private sale and there was another 9.8 sale after that for $20k about three or four months ago. That 9.6 sale was just low (especially considering another 9.6 sold for $8k in Nov 2017). -J.
  16. Good to see you back Bosco. -J.
  17. No serious estimates are at $160MM for this bloated two and a half hour cartoon. Even $200MM is probably too low. All most recent estimates are $350MM all in, however you want to break it up between production and P&A. -J.
  18. A 1000% agree with that. -J.
  19. Still low balling DC budgets I see. -J.
  20. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    Wow very nice and congrats on your big time sale. That's a new high for the book, regardless of grade. What a great way to start the new year. (And yes, you'll totally regret selling it one day ) -J.
  21. Again, the estimates I am using are publicly available and based on widely reported industry norms, and as such, they are entirely reasonable and appropriate. It is not a deep dive forensic accounting into the studio's books (although I am sure if one were to do that, the amount the studio actually spent on this movie would exceed even the bloated $350MM figure that still has it in the red, even now). -J.
  22. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    Totally. If that sale turns out to be legit, it just goes to show how the right book on the right venue really can make all the difference. The seller of that 9.6 in that comiclink auction made a mistake consigning a book like that to them, would have done miles better, and saved money on commissions, just putting it on ebay. @mbv Who can say. Any number I could say would have seemed preposterous even two years ago, but now nothing would surprise me with some of these ultra rare blue chip variant keys. -J.
  23. Jaydogrules

    Celebrate Dell'Otto!

    A 9.4, Dell'otto 667 sold in 30 minutes for $13.3K? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-Spider-man-667-DellOtto-Variant-CGC-9-4-Super-Rare-VHTF/143076293586?hash=item215002fbd2:g:QREAAOSwBqZcLKFU -J.