That Ron Dude

His process was based on two ideas. One-- if you put a comic book in sunlight the colours except for blue eventually bleach out. I think we have all noticed this. Meanwhile, blue doesn't pick up well in older scanning/photography methods-- thus blue pencilling. Combine the two ideas and you're in business. I met him simply because 48 years ago there weren't too many people over the age of 12 who read comics. He was in Detroit and I was in Toronto. We were friendly at conventions in both cities. I haven't talked to him in 45 years. I am glad he had some success within the field. I think his fanzines were often well researched and a step above the others coming out at the time. I hear that he was in a car accident.

I will put up more information a little later. For now, I haven't been at these boards in a while first because they shut down and second because I have been busy with The Tower of the Comic Freaks. Thanks to those of you who gave me input on it. In the end I went with the cover that the people on Collector's Society said they liked best though there will likely be a second edition where I will use the other cover. It peaked in its category on Amazon at #16 which makes me very happy. I also got positive reviews from Peter Bagge, Dave Sim and Scott Edelman (the guy who wrote the Marvel Bullpen Bulletin Page) and I will print some of the reviews later. For now, if you haven't seen the book I have many of the sequences in it up here. http://thetowerofthecomicbookfreaks.blogspot.ca I hope you take a look at it and I hope you enjoy it. The book continues to sell. This is unusual almost a year later with a book from one of the smaller publishers. I think word of mouth is helping it along.

What has made collectable comics increase in value? They could have just as easily gone down. Foremost, I think many people came to realize that the printed value of comics by Stan Lee, Al Feldstein, Jack Kirby, Al Williamson, Siegel and Shuster, Neal Adams and so on is just worth a lot more than the dime or so it cost on the stands or the dollar or so a collector’s bookstore might have been charging for it. And people seemed to be realizing that around 1965. Comics before that are collectable and valuable, and much less so after that. I might call that inherent collectability— there being less items available then there are people who want the item. But other things put the value of rare comic books through the roof and I will state as many as I can. 1. The Rocket’s Blast Comic Collector: The fanzine advertised in Marvel Comics. With a copy any one could have an idea of what other people thought their comics were worth. 2. Howard Rogofsky and Robert Bell: They realized that people would pay far more than people in the RBCC were asking for their comics. Their catalogues were available for a quarter. 3. Conventions: In 1970 there were only two within a five hundred mile radius of Toronto. There a collector might see a comic he had been previously unaware of and decide to collect it. 4. The Overstreet Price Guide did a lot to formalize the price of comics. The Gerber photo guide also made collectors aware of the scarcity and value of the comics of the past. 5. Comic books were a disposable art form. While a quarter million copies of Amazing Fantasy 15 were printed, there are probably only about five thousand existent today. There would be even fewer Amazing Fantasy 14s. 6. Comic stores were perma-cons. They became fan meeting centres and some were run by knowledgeable people like George Henderson who owned Memory Lane, Toronto’s first comic store and Ron Van Leeuwen who owned Silver Snail, Toronto’s second. It could be depressing buying comics that were priced factoring in the store’s cost of heating, electricity and and taxes. But factoring in the cost of postage or convention admission could be depressing, too. 7. Hoarding: People accumulated huge collections for pennies a book. Businesses like Mile High and My Comic Store have huge inventories where a stray issue can be found but at a significant premium. Others did it on a smaller scale. On a micro-scale an old friend, Cliff Letovsky, bought a hundred copies of Conan #1 when it came out. I am not sure if that raised or lowered the price of the comic in the Montreal area. I guess it depends on how much patience Cliff had. 8. Bags, boards, and boxes: These kept the comics in nicer condition. More could be charged for comics in nicer condition. One dealer pointed out to me that they also make the comics look like they are in nicer condition. 9. Direct Market: At a certain point a reader had to purchase his new comics from a comic store. There, back issues could also compete for his attention. 10. Collections like White Mountain, Mile High and other pedigrees: They allowed the owners to charge a premium on comics in the best condition with an interesting history. 11. Ebay, Heritage and Comiclink: With eBay, a comic that once might have been available only occasionally at a convention, became available permanently and in quantity. This, one would think, would send down the price. But eBay also made everyone into a potential dealer. At one time a collectable comic purchased in a comic store would be worth half the price if sold back to the store. That became irrelevant. The comic can now be resold for about the same amount at any time through eBay. This caused many to loosen the purse strings with the knowledge that their money wasn’t going into a black hole. In my opinion, it was eBay more than anything that made things go up. 12. Condition mania: CGC allowed people to agree upon the condition of a comic. This made comics more liquid but also introduced a behaviour which rewarded very slight differences in condition, some undetectable, disproportionately to other factors. 13. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and 1990s speculation. No one wanted to miss the next TMNT #1. Smart operators knew this and put out small run comics with as many #1 designations as possible such #1 ASDFJKL Summer Special, #1 ASDFJKL Adventures, #1 ASDFJKL, #1 ASDFJKL Swimsuit issue, #! ASDFJKL Comics and Stories. They would put multiple covers on each issue and send limited amounts of some of the covers to stores creating instant collectables. There were lots of tricks. Someone remarked that if stocks traded the way comics did at that point, people would be jailed. 14. A wealthy basketball player. I wish I could remember the details but a basketball player who had the money paid an unprecedented amount for a rare comics. That sent the whole high end of the market up. 15. Movies: They draw attention to certain characters sending the books through the roof. Groot in Tales to Astonish #13 sent a $25 comic into the thousand dollar range. 16. Key Issues: Issues with certain characteristics go up while the ones around it stay lower. I have heard this attributed to the notion that people's dwellings are smaller now and collectors have no room for runs. They buy primarily key issues. It could also be that the runs are now purchased in reprint, at a much lower price. 17. EBay goes BUY-IT-NOW: The people who manage EBay decided that it would become a sellers market. They give ads which are initially free, charging only when the items sells. This gives a seller every incentive to price high and troll for suckers. ` 18. Business plan of dealers: It seems to make more sense to dealers to sell fewer comics at high price than more comics at low price. Less transactions occur therefore less work. It is easier to restock. Their businesses can look like museums with few items moving, but they can sell very few and still turn a profit. 19. The early generation of collectors is now in their sixties or worse. Many of us have paid off our houses and our children’s education. We can buy things that we have always wanted but have been too cash strapped to buy. We can buy that Corvette or that Incredible Hulk #1. Any other ideas?

That's FRIGGING awesome!!! I would take that note, the envelope, and a copy of your book and frame it all together for a display. Classic. I'm being lazy not reading though all the pages, besides LCS and Amazon are you doing any direct sales? I'd rather you get the lion's share of the money anyway. Hi, Boba. I have not been doing direct sales. I have been doing direct giveaways. For years people have been giving me their books, zines, comics, helping me with computer stuff I can't do. They all get free copies. Same for family. This year everybody on the list got a disappointing Christmas gift-- my book. The gang at work got them-- I brought only five so I wouldn't give away more there. Caliber's policy is no comps so I bought them at cost which is printing, transportation and tariff (I am in Canada). One of my friends who writes books for a living liked it very much and wanted to buy two more for his own friends which was a very nice gesture. I gave them to him at my cost. He gave one to a big time illustrator whom I have met but whom I am not close to. He loved it and phoned me to tell me so. I wasn't home and he got my answering machine so I am able to use his exact words in a quote. The reaction I have gotten so far is excellent and I am making a bit of money from comic store and amazon sales. I still haven't hit 50 cents an hour for the time I put in. I am an advertised guest (in small type) at a large convention in March. I designed banners and I am having them printed now. We will see if I get any sales from that. I will certainly be trying. I hope you are enjoying the book.

What?No Montreal,Smoked meat bagel pizzas? Hi, Porcupine. I get the allure of Montreal smoked meat. I have had the pleasure of eating at Ben's a couple of times. We do it well in Toronto, too, but Ben's and that other one near it are well known for good reasons. A contender for best pizza was one I had in the Eastern provinces in a small, inexpensive and inconspicuous restaurant about two years ago. I was told that the quality lay in the cheese. They don't pasteurize it there like they do in Ontario. It tastes different and better.

I don't like it but it is ultimately the business of the person doing it. Occasionally I buy Star Wars junk for my son. I check the prices before I buy. Comic purchasers should do that too, or be prepared to take a hit.

Beautiful Barry Smith tribute.

I haven't had time to read mine yet but online opinions seem to like your book. Have you got much feedback from distributors? Is it doing well? I hope so. The book has been received well, if I can judge by what people have told me and written. It seems to have been well received even by people who have never heard of fandom and haven't read a comic since they were children. I know my limitations as an artist but some people have told me, unsolicited, that they like the art. I can believe that the art works well with the story but I don't think that anyone with 20/20 vision would buy it for the art. Beguiling bought 40 copies. Silver Snail has never heard of it and told me to try the Beguiling. I got a guest pass and a table at the March Toronto Comicon. I haven't been offered one of those in a while. It made distribution numbers at Diamond. I am still working on making fifty cents an hour for all the work I have done. But there have been a lot of little perks, the Ditko letter being first among them. These things (graphic novels that don't have Batman or Wolverine in them) don't have great distribution and the book is doing as well as or better than I anticipated just by hitting minimum at Diamond. What I have to do now is hope enough people see it and speak well of it to get a second edition that is advertised in a meaningful way by the publisher. Mind you, I don't want to sound like I am complaining. Caliber did buy an ad in Diamond and they don't do that for all their titles. What I would love to see is a large ad. I expect to promote the book at conventions, when possible. I have a Facebook page called, "The Tower of the Comic Book Geeks". About two-thirds of the people who are on it come there every day. Every day I put something new up. If you go to Facebook and ask to join, the answer will be "yes".

I downloaded the Simpson image. I will use it somewhere.

I am very happy that he took the time to respond. And, I will send it off to the publisher (you saw it first). If there is a second edition, the note will be in it.

I have been sending out complementary copies to some of the professionals who were working in comics during the Silver Age. I got this response from Steve Ditko. I feel like I have been zinged by Don Rickles.

Thanks for the help and for looking at the thread. I found him. Buy his book. He deserves it.

It looks like a may have a chance to find out.

The only ones I see that seem to be working are the ones that seem to fill a special niche. I hope you can fill a special niche. Also, are you knowledgeable in the world of business or a fan who is winging it, or, obviously, something in between?

If you know his email or know where I can find it on the internet could you contact me? I couldn't find him on Facebook and I googled his name but no luck. Also, I don't know his first name, just the initial. I read the book, The 1964 New York Comicon, which is the story of the very first comic convention. I loved it. I would like to email him.