Craig61 Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 Hi everyone. I had a question regarding a copy of Batman 87 and what appears to be two production flaws; I am not sure if these are flaws or poor restoration attempts since I've never seen this before. The book is complete but in two instances there is a very small page fold over as though the pages were too long and cut to fit. Anyone know what this is called and how it affects the overall grade? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Dowling Posted September 20, 2020 Share Posted September 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Craig61 said: Hi everyone. I had a question regarding a copy of Batman 87 and what appears to be two production flaws; I am not sure if these are flaws or poor restoration attempts since I've never seen this before. The book is complete but in two instances there is a very small page fold over as though the pages were too long and cut to fit. Anyone know what this is called and how it affects the overall grade? Thank you. That's normal. Many golden age books used half leafs with staple flaps like that. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baird Posted October 10, 2020 Share Posted October 10, 2020 I have to think it's been covered on here somewhere, but I struck out in my searching. How does a VERY badly misstapling of a book impact grade? I've seen staples off a little on other books, but this may be the worst I've personally seen. Book is otherwise in pretty nice shape Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 7:05 PM, Jim Baird said: badly misstapling of a book impact grade? I don't believe it would have any affect unless the grade is above 9.0. At the highest grades, these little production issues begin to matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostboys Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I'd love some input on these books I bought on Ebay recently. I bought a Hulk run from 334 to 339 and something is off about most them. First...a question. Does a company like Marvel pull books if they have defects or do they just ship them regardless? Now for the pics. Each book has this very similar... one defect Other than this defect, these books are perfect...clean spines, smooth covers and sharp corners. First book has it on the back cover The next book And the next book And this one The last book has what I think is a printers crease but I'm not sure It's not me, right? Somethings up with these books. Best case scenario to me would be someone having a hookup at the factory for defected books. I'll leave the worst case scenario up to you guys. Thanks for looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyH55 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I'm looking for some help/advice re an early 1960s Marvel squarebound annual, it's in really nice condition but the cover was never originally glued to the actual book. I believe that if I submit it it will be downgraded as cover detached, does anyone know if there is anyway of avoiding this ? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickCDA Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I would love some input one some black marks/smoodges on the cover of a Star Wars: Heir to the Empire #1 that I picked up a while ago. The LCS I got it from seemed to think the black marks on the cover where due to manufacturer defects and that they wouldn't affect CGC grading...I'm not so sure. To what extent would they, if at all, affect a grade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 5:55 PM, lostboys said: The last book has what I think is a printers crease but I'm not sure In my opinion, you got this one right (the printer crease). The others all look as if they have "handling" issues. It's very easy to fold over an edge when pulling/stacking raw books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/17/2021 at 2:25 PM, AndyH55 said: I'm looking for some help/advice re an early 1960s Marvel squarebound annual, it's in really nice condition but the cover was never originally glued to the actual book. I believe that if I submit it it will be downgraded as cover detached, does anyone know if there is anyway of avoiding this ? thanks Hello and welcome to the Boards. Could it be that the glue just dried out? Photos are generally better to help others gauge condition issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 1:07 PM, NickCDA said: I would love some input one some black marks/smoodges on the cover of a Star Wars: Heir to the Empire #1 that I picked up a while ago. The LCS I got it from seemed to think the black marks on the cover where due to manufacturer defects and that they wouldn't affect CGC grading...I'm not so sure. To what extent would they, if at all, affect a grade? It may be a production issue, but it is not common on this book. I believe CGC would downgrade for this fairly severely. There is a lot of interest in this book and many copies are being submitted to CGC. After the "hype" is over, I'll be looking at adding a nice high grade CGC copy to my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryl S Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Hello everyone and I am really in need of help from some of the professionals on this board as cgc and myself are at odds over a comic that I had graded. Attached is a picture of the comic amazing spider-man that cgc graded for me and came back graded a 4. The grader's notes were extreme fading and therefore the 4. No other notes, I have contacted cgc through email and by phone and they insist that the comic is only faded even though it is missing lettering in 2 of the letter boxes and all of the yellow coloring on the page and all of the red on spider-man's costume....I only got this graded as I consider it a novelty and have only been a cgc member for less than a year but cannot understand why they cannot admit that they possibly made a mistake. I just received an email back from cgc saying that they talked to the grader's and it was insisted that multiple people looked over the comic to help make this determination....Curiously I ask, how does the sun decide to fade out all of the lettering in the letter boxes and not anywhere else...I will leave it up to you, the board to please help me understand the decision by cgc and thanks everyone for the help. Daryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterVComic Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Hello all, I posted in another thread, but just found this thread. I think this thread/topic fits my question best. I have 2 issues of Albedo 3 I’m considering getting graded but there are some color issues on them. I am attaching close ups then full pics of front and back. Please tell me if you think they might be worth grading. Thanks in advance Edited March 19, 2021 by PeterVComic Forgot a sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotKey Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/3/2021 at 6:46 PM, Daryl S said: Hello everyone and I am really in need of help from some of the professionals on this board as cgc and myself are at odds over a comic that I had graded. Attached is a picture of the comic amazing spider-man that cgc graded for me and came back graded a 4. The grader's notes were extreme fading and therefore the 4. No other notes, I have contacted cgc through email and by phone and they insist that the comic is only faded even though it is missing lettering in 2 of the letter boxes and all of the yellow coloring on the page and all of the red on spider-man's costume....I only got this graded as I consider it a novelty and have only been a cgc member for less than a year but cannot understand why they cannot admit that they possibly made a mistake. I just received an email back from cgc saying that they talked to the grader's and it was insisted that multiple people looked over the comic to help make this determination....Curiously I ask, how does the sun decide to fade out all of the lettering in the letter boxes and not anywhere else...I will leave it up to you, the board to please help me understand the decision by cgc and thanks everyone for the help. Daryl Looks like a production error to me. Those blues would not be so blue if the rest of the cover was just from fading, imo. Zero fading from title text or top left text in box as well. Still black box in bottom left. That should have faded too. Not a logical path to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 4:07 PM, NickCDA said: I would love some input one some black marks/smoodges on the cover of a Star Wars: Heir to the Empire #1 that I picked up a while ago. The LCS I got it from seemed to think the black marks on the cover where due to manufacturer defects and that they wouldn't affect CGC grading...I'm not so sure. To what extent would they, if at all, affect a grade? It's called "Scumming" meaning the printing plate didn't come completely clean, usually the press operator or the assistant will raise the water to help clean that plate up. Yorick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 On 3/3/2021 at 6:46 PM, Daryl S said: Hello everyone and I am really in need of help from some of the professionals on this board as cgc and myself are at odds over a comic that I had graded. Attached is a picture of the comic amazing spider-man that cgc graded for me and came back graded a 4. The grader's notes were extreme fading and therefore the 4. No other notes, I have contacted cgc through email and by phone and they insist that the comic is only faded even though it is missing lettering in 2 of the letter boxes and all of the yellow coloring on the page and all of the red on spider-man's costume....I only got this graded as I consider it a novelty and have only been a cgc member for less than a year but cannot understand why they cannot admit that they possibly made a mistake. I just received an email back from cgc saying that they talked to the grader's and it was insisted that multiple people looked over the comic to help make this determination....Curiously I ask, how does the sun decide to fade out all of the lettering in the letter boxes and not anywhere else...I will leave it up to you, the board to please help me understand the decision by cgc and thanks everyone for the help. Daryl This book isn't faded. It's missing red and yellow ink...If you walk down to a running printing press and shut off the impressions of any unit, it won't print that color anymore, it's usually done if they are having a problem, they should have thrown these copies out but sometimes they get missed and put on the skid and shipped. The Lions Den and Yorick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Liebl Posted May 29, 2021 Share Posted May 29, 2021 Marvel chips! What’s the grade impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joooe Posted June 3, 2021 Share Posted June 3, 2021 (edited) Can anyone tell me if this Marvel Comics Presents Weapon X #79 is an error and how many exist? I haven't found any, anywhere on the internet, and have asked other shop owners about it, all have the same reply, "it could be this, or that". I am 100% certain that this isnt any form of damage, it's the only one ive seen with this green color on the cover Edited June 3, 2021 by Joooe Forgot something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 7:40 AM, Joooe said: Can anyone tell me if this Marvel Comics Presents Weapon X #79 is an error and how many exist? I haven't found any, anywhere on the internet, and have asked other shop owners about it, all have the same reply, "it could be this, or that". I am 100% certain that this isnt any form of damage, it's the only one ive seen with this green color on the cover That looks awesome! Joooe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 6/3/2021 at 10:40 AM, Joooe said: Can anyone tell me if this Marvel Comics Presents Weapon X #79 is an error and how many exist? I haven't found any, anywhere on the internet, and have asked other shop owners about it, all have the same reply, "it could be this, or that". I am 100% certain that this isnt any form of damage, it's the only one ive seen with this green color on the cover What's the background color supposed to be? Brown right? Ok then, Blue, Red and Yellow makes Brown. So the Red is missing, that's why the green is showing. greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 5, 2021 Share Posted June 5, 2021 On 9/6/2020 at 6:37 PM, Yorick said: I believe it would be a Blue Label. Correct... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...