You guys over-hyped the Avengers movie

[seanfingh]

I watched the Avengers 6 times and enjoyed it each time. I can't wait for Avengers 2.

 

I'm glad they didn't cater to the comic snobs, because nobody would watch it then.

 

And your proof of this would be...?

 

Logic, reason and an understanding of the American public.

 

Yes, because they've made so many superhero comicbook movies faithful to the source material that statistics show that non comicbook fans stay away in droves. Next time you try and give me a tug at least ask politely first

 

I think your fundamental premise is wrong. A slavish adherence to source material makes no sense. Particularly when that source material has been ret-conned and re-done dozens and dozens of times. If we are slavishly devoted to Claremont/Byrne's Wolverine, aren't we going to potentially put off those who were raised on Peter David's vision of the character or Greg Rucka's?

 

It makes no sense because of the fluidity of the characters, the mythos and the perspective of the potential movie-goer. It's like saying you have to tell the version of your grandfather's best ghost story EXACTLY the way he told it to you, even with the attendant anachronisms.

 

They just need to tell a good story and make a good movie.

[Logan510]

I watched the Avengers 6 times and enjoyed it each time. I can't wait for Avengers 2.

 

I'm glad they didn't cater to the comic snobs, because nobody would watch it then.

 

And your proof of this would be...?

 

Logic, reason and an understanding of the American public.

 

Yes, because they've made so many superhero comicbook movies faithful to the source material that statistics show that non comicbook fans stay away in droves. Next time you try and give me a tug at least ask politely first

 

I think your fundamental premise is wrong. A slavish adherence to source material makes no sense. Particularly when that source material has been ret-conned and re-done dozens and dozens of times. If we are slavishly devoted to Claremont/Byrne's Wolverine, aren't we going to potentially put off those who were raised on Peter David's vision of the character or Greg Rucka's?

 

It makes no sense because of the fluidity of the characters, the mythos and the perspective of the potential movie-goer. It's like saying you have to tell the version of your grandfather's best ghost story EXACTLY the way he told it to you, even with the attendant anachronisms.

 

They just need to tell a good story and make a good movie.

 

 

I'm waiting for it

[Park]

It was fun, but Jesus Christ guys.

 

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? Why did he go from almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half to teaming up with the group? How did he know to go to Manhattan for the final battle after being dropped in the middle of nowhere? Why did Thor sit in that Hulk-prison thingy with his thumb up his arse, right up until it was about to hit the ground? What exactly is the extent of Loki's powers? Who the heck was that alien race that was helping him? What was their motivation? Why did Black Widow and Hawkeye suck so bad? Why does the actor who plays Hawkeye have big biceps but no shoulders? Why did they make Captain America's costume so cheesy, and why did he never take it off, not even on the Shield carrier?

 

 

You almost sound like the 12 year old wads on Xbox Live. Not enough racism and homophobia though.

 

They're my peeps.

 

[Prince Namor]

I only go to the cinema in summer to watch a few explosive, in-your-face blockbusters. In 3D. The Avengers fulfilled this simple criterion admirably. Any film with subtlety or coherent, deep, intellectual, thoughtful dialogue and story, well, I can wait until it eventually appears on television and watch it for free.

 

Well, it should be the opposite, unless we have to think what’s valuable comes for free and what’s expendable needs to be paid. Or am I missing something?

 

If I'm going to venture out to the multiplex, past the crowds of Wrestling fans, Nike shoppers and Burger King connoisseurs, to pay as much as they are charging for movies at the cinema, I want something that takes me straight out of reality.

[Prince Namor]

It was fun, but Jesus Christ guys.

 

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? Why did he go from almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half to teaming up with the group? How did he know to go to Manhattan for the final battle after being dropped in the middle of nowhere? Why did Thor sit in that Hulk-prison thingy with his thumb up his arse, right up until it was about to hit the ground? What exactly is the extent of Loki's powers? Who the heck was that alien race that was helping him? What was their motivation? Why did Black Widow and Hawkeye suck so bad? Why does the actor who plays Hawkeye have big biceps but no shoulders? Why did they make Captain America's costume so cheesy, and why did he never take it off, not even on the Shield carrier?

 

 

You almost sound like the 12 year old wads on Xbox Live. Not enough racism and homophobia though.

 

They're my peeps.

 

 

[sckao]

 

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? Why did he go from almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half to teaming up with the group?

 

It seemed pretty clear that Loki's staff (and the gem on it) was affecting the Avengers. They even had it in the lab where Banner and Stark were most of the time. Note the scene where Banner ends up suddenly holding it.

 

Why did they make Captain America's costume so cheesy, and why did he never take it off, not even on the Shield carrier?

 

I don't think Black Widow dressed in civilian dress either. (They're not civilians.) Thor didn't change either. You didn't see Fury lounging around in sweat pants did you?

 

 

 

 

[Comicopolis]

I've read this thread 6 times and it gets better with every viewing.

[Wally's Comics]

here's an idea, lights please...

 

NO ONE THAT ISN'T A COMIC GEEK DOESN'T CARE

THEY JUST WANT TO SEE A FUN MOVIE!

 

That is why this movie was so successful Charlie Brown.

 

 

 

 

[Bronty]

almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half

 

 

why does that sound strangely appealing ?

[vader2001]

My favorite movies never do well at the box office.

 

Dude you need to stop watching Jimmi Linguini youtube and porn videos they never make it on the big screen.

 

 

I remember seeing porn on the big screen back in the day. It was GLORIOUS!

 

 

 

 

I wondered if you'd show up PeeWee!

[Dr. Balls]

I watched the Avengers 6 times and enjoyed it each time. I can't wait for Avengers 2.

 

I'm glad they didn't cater to the comic snobs, because nobody would watch it then.

 

And your proof of this would be...?

 

Logic, reason and an understanding of the American public.

 

Yes, because they've made so many superhero comicbook movies faithful to the source material that statistics show that non comicbook fans stay away in droves. Next time you try and give me a tug at least ask politely first

 

I think your fundamental premise is wrong. A slavish adherence to source material makes no sense. Particularly when that source material has been ret-conned and re-done dozens and dozens of times. If we are slavishly devoted to Claremont/Byrne's Wolverine, aren't we going to potentially put off those who were raised on Peter David's vision of the character or Greg Rucka's?

 

It makes no sense because of the fluidity of the characters, the mythos and the perspective of the potential movie-goer. It's like saying you have to tell the version of your grandfather's best ghost story EXACTLY the way he told it to you, even with the attendant anachronisms.

 

They just need to tell a good story and make a good movie.

 

Have they ever made a comic book movie that was catered to the comic snobs?

[Jiminy_Cricket-migration]

I watched the Avengers 6 times and enjoyed it each time. I can't wait for Avengers 2.

 

I'm glad they didn't cater to the comic snobs, because nobody would watch it then.

 

And your proof of this would be...?

 

Logic, reason and an understanding of the American public.

 

Yes, because they've made so many superhero comicbook movies faithful to the source material that statistics show that non comicbook fans stay away in droves. Next time you try and give me a tug at least ask politely first

 

I think your fundamental premise is wrong. A slavish adherence to source material makes no sense. Particularly when that source material has been ret-conned and re-done dozens and dozens of times. If we are slavishly devoted to Claremont/Byrne's Wolverine, aren't we going to potentially put off those who were raised on Peter David's vision of the character or Greg Rucka's?

 

It makes no sense because of the fluidity of the characters, the mythos and the perspective of the potential movie-goer. It's like saying you have to tell the version of your grandfather's best ghost story EXACTLY the way he told it to you, even with the attendant anachronisms.

 

They just need to tell a good story and make a good movie.

 

Have they ever made a comic book movie that was catered to the comic snobs?

 

Watchmen and the latest Judge Dredd come to mind.

[DrWatson]

It was fun, but Jesus Christ guys.

 

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? Why did he go from almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half to teaming up with the group? How did he know to go to Manhattan for the final battle after being dropped in the middle of nowhere? Why did Thor sit in that Hulk-prison thingy with his thumb up his arse, right up until it was about to hit the ground? What exactly is the extent of Loki's powers? Who the heck was that alien race that was helping him? What was their motivation? Why did Black Widow and Hawkeye suck so bad? Why does the actor who plays Hawkeye have big biceps but no shoulders? Why did they make Captain America's costume so cheesy, and why did he never take it off, not even on the Shield carrier?

 

Who really gives a mess?

[Logan510]

I watched the Avengers 6 times and enjoyed it each time. I can't wait for Avengers 2.

 

I'm glad they didn't cater to the comic snobs, because nobody would watch it then.

 

And your proof of this would be...?

 

Logic, reason and an understanding of the American public.

 

Yes, because they've made so many superhero comicbook movies faithful to the source material that statistics show that non comicbook fans stay away in droves. Next time you try and give me a tug at least ask politely first

 

I think your fundamental premise is wrong. A slavish adherence to source material makes no sense. Particularly when that source material has been ret-conned and re-done dozens and dozens of times. If we are slavishly devoted to Claremont/Byrne's Wolverine, aren't we going to potentially put off those who were raised on Peter David's vision of the character or Greg Rucka's?

 

It makes no sense because of the fluidity of the characters, the mythos and the perspective of the potential movie-goer. It's like saying you have to tell the version of your grandfather's best ghost story EXACTLY the way he told it to you, even with the attendant anachronisms.

 

They just need to tell a good story and make a good movie.

 

Have they ever made a comic book movie that was catered to the comic snobs?

 

Catering to "comic snobs" and being more faithful to the source material do not have to be the same thing. If the non comicbook fan moviegoers have little to no knowledge of the source material, who is to say the movie wouldn't have been as successful if they had been a bit more faithful? The non comicbook moviegoing fans wouldn't know the difference anyway.

[Erndog]

I watched the Avengers 6 times and enjoyed it each time. I can't wait for Avengers 2.

 

I'm glad they didn't cater to the comic snobs, because nobody would watch it then.

 

And your proof of this would be...?

 

Logic, reason and an understanding of the American public.

 

Yes, because they've made so many superhero comicbook movies faithful to the source material that statistics show that non comicbook fans stay away in droves. Next time you try and give me a tug at least ask politely first

 

I think your fundamental premise is wrong. A slavish adherence to source material makes no sense. Particularly when that source material has been ret-conned and re-done dozens and dozens of times. If we are slavishly devoted to Claremont/Byrne's Wolverine, aren't we going to potentially put off those who were raised on Peter David's vision of the character or Greg Rucka's?

 

It makes no sense because of the fluidity of the characters, the mythos and the perspective of the potential movie-goer. It's like saying you have to tell the version of your grandfather's best ghost story EXACTLY the way he told it to you, even with the attendant anachronisms.

 

They just need to tell a good story and make a good movie.

 

Have they ever made a comic book movie that was catered to the comic snobs?

 

 

I think for the most part Watchmen was pretty much a recreation of the source material.

[TupennyConan]

It was fun, but Jesus Christ guys.

 

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? Why did he go from almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half to teaming up with the group? How did he know to go to Manhattan for the final battle after being dropped in the middle of nowhere? Why did Thor sit in that Hulk-prison thingy with his thumb up his arse, right up until it was about to hit the ground? What exactly is the extent of Loki's powers? Who the heck was that alien race that was helping him? What was their motivation? Why did Black Widow and Hawkeye suck so bad? Why does the actor who plays Hawkeye have big biceps but no shoulders? Why did they make Captain America's costume so cheesy, and why did he never take it off, not even on the Shield carrier?

 

Who really gives a mess?

 

[Dr. Balls]

I watched the Avengers 6 times and enjoyed it each time. I can't wait for Avengers 2.

 

I'm glad they didn't cater to the comic snobs, because nobody would watch it then.

 

And your proof of this would be...?

 

Logic, reason and an understanding of the American public.

 

Yes, because they've made so many superhero comicbook movies faithful to the source material that statistics show that non comicbook fans stay away in droves. Next time you try and give me a tug at least ask politely first

 

I think your fundamental premise is wrong. A slavish adherence to source material makes no sense. Particularly when that source material has been ret-conned and re-done dozens and dozens of times. If we are slavishly devoted to Claremont/Byrne's Wolverine, aren't we going to potentially put off those who were raised on Peter David's vision of the character or Greg Rucka's?

 

It makes no sense because of the fluidity of the characters, the mythos and the perspective of the potential movie-goer. It's like saying you have to tell the version of your grandfather's best ghost story EXACTLY the way he told it to you, even with the attendant anachronisms.

 

They just need to tell a good story and make a good movie.

 

Have they ever made a comic book movie that was catered to the comic snobs?

 

 

I think for the most part Watchmen was pretty much a recreation of the source material.

 

That is kind of what I thought. I remember a lot of complaining and carrying-on when the movie came out. I was practically crucified by my friends for suggesting the ending was much better and more fitting to the story than the original. So I figured most comic nerds objected to that film.

[dover]

It was fun, but Jesus Christ guys.

 

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? Why did he go from almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half to teaming up with the group? How did he know to go to Manhattan for the final battle after being dropped in the middle of nowhere? Why did Thor sit in that Hulk-prison thingy with his thumb up his arse, right up until it was about to hit the ground? What exactly is the extent of Loki's powers? Who the heck was that alien race that was helping him? What was their motivation? Why did Black Widow and Hawkeye suck so bad? Why does the actor who plays Hawkeye have big biceps but no shoulders? Why did they make Captain America's costume so cheesy, and why did he never take it off, not even on the Shield carrier?

 

Who really gives a mess?

 

 

Who would not rip into Scarlet's butt? It's okay for James T Kirk to boldly go and fornicate with multi-endowed green ladies but not for the big green guy to go after some red headed goddess?

 

I say he was in complete control there and only got mad when Thor stepped in for a threesome. Hulk was just trying to get close in an overly physical way.

 

 

 

 

[PEP]

It was fun, but Jesus Christ guys.

 

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? Why did he go from almost ripping Scarlet's butt in half to teaming up with the group? How did he know to go to Manhattan for the final battle after being dropped in the middle of nowhere? Why did Thor sit in that Hulk-prison thingy with his thumb up his arse, right up until it was about to hit the ground? What exactly is the extent of Loki's powers? Who the heck was that alien race that was helping him? What was their motivation? Why did Black Widow and Hawkeye suck so bad? Why does the actor who plays Hawkeye have big biceps but no shoulders? Why did they make Captain America's costume so cheesy, and why did he never take it off, not even on the Shield carrier?

 

Who really gives a mess?

 

 

Who would not rip into Scarlet's butt? It's okay for James T Kirk to boldly go and fornicate with multi-endowed green ladies but not for the big green guy to go after some red headed goddess?

 

I say he was in complete control there and only got mad when Thor stepped in for a threesome. Hulk was just trying to get close in an overly physical way.

 

She has some big lips.

[micmack]

How was the Hulk suddenly able to control himself? If I remember correctly, even without Lokis control, he was in pain from Hawkeye's explosion and from falling. Pain makes the transformation uncontrolable?

How did he know to go to Manhattan for the final battle after being dropped in the middle of nowhere? Just before Hawkeye's arrow exploded, their sensors detected the cube. Banner saw on the monitor that it was at Stark Towers and said "Oh my God". Afterwards he just went to Stark Towers knowing that was where the cube was.

 

Why did Thor sit in that Hulk-prison thingy with his thumb up his arse, right up until it was about to hit the ground? I guess he was trying but didn't have good footing to gain momentum?

 

Who the heck was that alien race that was helping him? They were featured in the Animated Ultimate Avengers movies I and II