The umpire is calling strikes..................

[ImageMask]

If encapsulation is seen as a good business model and is generating competition in this space of the hobby, it strikes me that if GPA doesn't expand to include all slab sales that there is a business opportunity for a company that wants to pull all that data together (and make it sortable by encapsulation company) for collectors.

 

It's just that simple right?

[jaybuck43]

 

Yep, he sent out a bunch of messages inviting folks to participate in a different online comics discussion board, and since CGC is in the business of online comics discussion boards, that makes him a competitor, and that is against the rules.

 

Ok I will attempt to answer this.

 

CGC is not in the business of online comics discussion boards. CGC IS in the business of encapsulating books. One of the ways that they promote their encapsulation services is by having fans of their product gather in an area where they can discuss their product. The only reason that a sales thread is permitted is because they promote the value of their services by selling books that have already been graded by CGC or books that MAY be graded by CGC. Every chat area, is somehow geared directly or indirectly toward the idea to maintain interest in comic books with the hopes that people will see CGC encapsulation services as a valuable tool toward further maintaining interest in preserving the books. If another forum is going to discuss the competition in a positive light then that detracts from people potentially sending in books to CGC. The reasoning behind the strikes honestly makes sense to me. However the inconsistency does not.

 

When I see that Metropolis and SparkleCity chooses to use another service to grade such high profile books as Detective Comics 27 and other pre-Robin Tec's it leads me to believe that major dealers are lending credibility to other encapsulation companies by selling those books in the competitors' holder. If that is the case then should not their presence and advertisement of their event auctions also be limited? That should not be the case but it seems that this is where we are headed and that is truly saddening.

 

 

According to my registry stats I have 258 slabs. I have about 10 slabs that I have never entered into the registry and 2 slabs from a competing company that I want to hand off to CGC. I have a LOT of money invested in my personal collection currently encapsulated in CGC holders ranging from major keys to early GA superhero books. My collection is supposedly more expansive (I did not say expensive) than some other collections and I realize that my collection is dwarfed by the collections of other members. However we all share one thing in common. The majority of our collections are slabbed by CGC. We want to see the value in that collection be maintained. In order for that to happen CGC needs to continue to be a giant in the encapsulation business. I do not want CGC to fade away. That would not be good for the market nor the value of my collection. The current actions are leaving a poor taste in the mouths of many users and I fear it is driving them away. It may not be true, but the perception of a few decisions are driving people away. I do not want to see CGC ignore and dismiss the competition throwing a blanket over it in the hopes that it will disappear. I want CGC to embrace the competition, look at the innovations that the competition makes, look at areas that CGC can improve and make those improvements in order to demonstrate why CGC is the premier service in grading and encapsulation.

 

And I'd also like GPA (hi George) with CGC's blessing, include the 'other' sales results.

If a Tec '27 is being encapsulated, and then sold, to not include that sale is maddening.

 

If CGC is to be what they were - and wish to still be, they have to accept that these new guys are here to stay - and work with their customers, not drive them away.

 

Putting fingers in ears and shouting la-la-la never works.

 

Look at the pressing *spoon* - I have been with 'he who shall not be named' for 3 years. Up's, downs and arguments included. We are now firm friends, and I resent feeling like I am being forced to choose to keep my business with my friend, which MAY lead to me having to switch companies - or to use another pressing company to keep my books CGC if he is forced out.

 

I'll be sticking with JG for the record, but I simply won't slab ANYTHING until I see how the market plays out.

 

And that's where GPA comes in. CGC need to allow George to add the 'new' sales - I hope they already are going to do so.

 

This whole thing is becoming a fiasco tbh.

 

Wait? What?

Where did GPA say they have an exclusive deal with CGC to track only their slab sales?

Did I miss that or are you just

 

If you see that GPA has direct links to the CGC census, and then add in the fact that CGC are being very territorial, then why would I NOT wonder if CGC would dissuade, or indeed disallow George to add the 'other' data.

 

Why aren't PGX sales on there?

 

I don't think it's a leap in the slightest to wonder aloud if CGC will 'forbid' George to add other companies data to GPA.

 

Would you be surprised if that happened?

 

I'm asking that it NOT happen, if it was intended to be so. I can't imagine how you would perceive that as - for me, it's very important information for myself going forward.

 

I'm not interested in arguing. This is far too important.

 

 

As far as I know GPA and George are their own company?

 

GPA has no connection to CGC other than to report trackable sales.

 

GPA can track and post any sale they wish.

 

Why would CGC have control over GPA? To influence the market?

 

They have a direct link to the CGC census - they are 100% connected.

 

As for influencing the market - if you can't work out why sales data of the new company could harm CGC, then I'm not sure you understand the situation that is evolving.

I going to leave this here. I'm sure others will chime in.

Super easy to create a -script that automatically makes the URL code equal the cgc census with the Selected serial.

[Buzzetta]

GoCollect is $5.99 a month. Enter the 30 Day Free Trial code from the banner ad at the top of the page and give it a try. I like it.

 

I will be once my year subscription runs out with GPA if, GPA is not reporting on all slabs.

[lizards2]

However we all share one thing in common. The majority of our collections are slabbed by CGC.

 

I call BS on this statement.

[Buzzetta]

However we all share one thing in common. The majority of our collections are slabbed by CGC.

 

I call BS on this statement.

 

You know what I mean...

 

[DR.X]

However we all share one thing in common. The majority of our collections are slabbed by CGC.

 

I call BS on this statement.

 

my collection is probably 90% raw.

[Furby]

If encapsulation is seen as a good business model and is generating competition in this space of the hobby, it strikes me that if GPA doesn't expand to include all slab sales that there is a business opportunity for a company that wants to pull all that data together (and make it sortable by encapsulation company) for collectors.

 

It's just that simple right?

 

Well, perhaps not as simple as blowing off someone's casual observation with a dismissive one-liner.

[lizards2]

However we all share one thing in common. The majority of our collections are slabbed by CGC.

 

I call BS on this statement.

 

my collection is probably 90% raw.

 

Mine is 99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% raw. the only CGC container I save are one's not worthy of cracking out, and the empty husks that go to a boardie friend.

[lizards2]

However we all share one thing in common. The majority of our collections are slabbed by CGC.

 

I call BS on this statement.

 

You know what I mean...

 

Only if you mean you're trying to rub knobs with the snobs? :shrug:

[ImageMask]

If encapsulation is seen as a good business model and is generating competition in this space of the hobby, it strikes me that if GPA doesn't expand to include all slab sales that there is a business opportunity for a company that wants to pull all that data together (and make it sortable by encapsulation company) for collectors.

 

It's just that simple right?

 

Well, perhaps not as simple as blowing off someone's casual observation with a dismissive one-liner.

 

 

I am not sure if I would call legit comp a casual observation.

 

There is a new grading company started by the GUY that created the first one.

 

 

[Buzzetta]

However we all share one thing in common. The majority of our collections are slabbed by CGC.

 

I call BS on this statement.

 

You know what I mean...

 

Only if you mean you're trying to rub knobs with the snobs? :shrug:

 

I don't believe that all...

 

[Furby]

If encapsulation is seen as a good business model and is generating competition in this space of the hobby, it strikes me that if GPA doesn't expand to include all slab sales that there is a business opportunity for a company that wants to pull all that data together (and make it sortable by encapsulation company) for collectors.

 

It's just that simple right?

 

Well, perhaps not as simple as blowing off someone's casual observation with a dismissive one-liner.

 

 

I am not sure if I would call legit comp a casual observation.

 

There is a new grading company started by the GUY that created the first one.

 

 

I'm not looking for a fight, chief, and I never said anything was simple.

 

I decided to share an observation about GPA data (not grading companies) that you chose to be snarky about. I'm not understanding where your apparent acrimony is coming from, but perhaps as a relative board newbie I am unaware that this is your modus operandi?

[thirdgreenham]

modus operandi? Did it hurt?

[ImageMask]

If encapsulation is seen as a good business model and is generating competition in this space of the hobby, it strikes me that if GPA doesn't expand to include all slab sales that there is a business opportunity for a company that wants to pull all that data together (and make it sortable by encapsulation company) for collectors.

 

It's just that simple right?

 

Well, perhaps not as simple as blowing off someone's casual observation with a dismissive one-liner.

 

 

I am not sure if I would call legit comp a casual observation.

 

There is a new grading company started by the GUY that created the first one.

 

 

I'm not looking for a fight, chief, and I never said anything was simple.

 

I decided to share an observation about GPA data (not grading companies) that you chose to be snarky about. I'm not understanding where your apparent acrimony is coming from, but perhaps as a relative board newbie I am unaware that this is your modus operandi?

 

You misunderstand. I agree Y not expand into all slab sales if you are GPA.

 

Unless u r GPA for GCG...........so GCG has a say in market prices according to the GPA.......

 

 

 

 

[mschmidt]

GoCollect is $5.99 a month. Enter the 30 Day Free Trial code from the banner ad at the top of the page and give it a try. I like it.

 

I will be once my year subscription runs out with GPA if, GPA is not reporting on all slabs.

 

So you'd give up a service that doesn't include the "other" companies, but has 12+ years of data from a multitude of sales platforms and switch to a service that has less than 2 years of data collected solely from eBay? :shrug:

[Furby]

modus operandi? Did it hurt?

 

Non certe!

[Meeklo]

That was funny…ImageMask made a thread…I posted a IBTL…and it immediately went POOF!!!

 

Never seen that happen so fast!

[ImageMask]

The mods love me like that..........................

 

 

And arch is scared of me.

[ImageMask]

yeah it is like that

 

[DrWatson]

GoCollect is $5.99 a month. Enter the 30 Day Free Trial code from the banner ad at the top of the page and give it a try. I like it.

 

I will be once my year subscription runs out with GPA if, GPA is not reporting on all slabs.

 

So you'd give up a service that doesn't include the "other" companies, but has 12+ years of data from a multitude of sales platforms and switch to a service that has less than 2 years of data collected solely from eBay? :shrug:

Unless you buy and sell mainly estoic Golden Age books or follow pedigree sales, how relevant is ten year old data when the majority of sellers refer to the last sale or the 90 day average?