UnboxingTreasures Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Bump because Dawn rocks :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I need some assistance determining if either of these 2 copies of Cry for Dawn #1 are original. These are not mine and are the best pictures I can get. I see some of the checker pattern described, but not sure that's because it's there or I zoomed in too much. Can't find my copy to compare. Thanks for the help. You should be able to click the picture and zoom in a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I managed to track down my own copy and have an opinion; would like to hear from a couple others though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I managed to track down my own copy and have an opinion; would like to hear from a couple others though. I wasn't aware counterfeiting was an issue with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I managed to track down my own copy and have an opinion; would like to hear from a couple others though. I wasn't aware counterfeiting was an issue with this one. https://www.cgccomics.com/census/grades_standard.asp?title=Cry+For+Dawn+-+COUNTERFEIT&issue=1&publisher=no+publisher+listed&year=1989&issuedate=4%2F89 Are you taking my copy or these 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=8251998&fpart=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=8251998&fpart=1 Yep, I saw that in my quick research. I also saw Dr Balls' retracted comments on detection. So what do you think on these two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 The cross-hatching looks like those are counterfeit. Legit copy scanned at high resolution: http://valiantman.com/dream/0148346002.jpg Counterfeit copy scanned at high resolution: http://valiantman.com/dream/0246886003.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Well, well, they do look awfully flat . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 This looks counterfeit. I can't tell from the other pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manetteska Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 This looks counterfeit. I can't tell from the other pictures. My thought as well. Even though it's not in hand, comparing to my copy something looks off. Owner says he bought both copies on eBay in early 2000's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
followtheleader Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 I agree. I have both and it looks counterfeit. Best case would be to take more close-ups of the lightening/cloud area and post. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDonut Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 Wait for RMA to come back from whatever walkabout he's on. He knows this stuff cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He's not coming back greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDonut Posted January 5, 2017 Share Posted January 5, 2017 He's not coming back Ever? That's sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semicentennial Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 This looks counterfeit. I can't tell from the other pictures. My thought as well. Even though it's not in hand, comparing to my copy something looks off. Owner says he bought both copies on eBay in early 2000's. The book doesn't look right. The cover looks enlarged. The "C" in the title is partially cut off at the spine,the ghoul has most of the eye socket cut off at the edge, and the blood trail on the bottom of the cover (especially the one that is in the center) looks a lot different from graded copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney414 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 The cross-hatching looks like those are counterfeit. Legit copy scanned at high resolution: http://valiantman.com/dream/0148346002.jpg Counterfeit copy scanned at high resolution: http://valiantman.com/dream/0246886003.jpg 50AE_DE is right. The counterfeits were enlarged images of the original (which caused the cross-hatching). The "Cry for Dawn" logo is higher up on the counterfeit, closer to the top edge due to being enlarged. And the center blood trail on the bottom is another good place to compare as well. Seeing it on the top and bottom of the book shows it wasn't simply cut wrong off the printer, but actually an enlarged image. You can see it in the examples above too. Another tell is to look inside the book. Pages are printed darker. Hard to tell from scans Manetteska, but yours are showing signs of being counterfeit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney414 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Here are some pictures of mine that may help. I have a 1st print and counterfeit. Here they are side by side (real on the left, counterfeit on the right): Here they are on top of each other. Notice the "Volume One" logo is higher on the counterfeit and at the same time "Linsner" is lower at the bottom. Also, the counterfeit is printed darker inside the book. Here are some examples: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
