uchiha101 Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 I've been following this thread for 2 1/2 years now, and I'm curious about a couple of things. First off, you get a thumbs up from me for getting a job and sticking with it, even though you don't like it. My questions though, are how do you justify spending $500.00 on a comic book, or any luxury item, for that matter, when you are working, at most, 25 hours a week at a job paying minimum wage? Now I know that you're going to say that you keep your "living money" and your "other money" separate, but when you are over 21 years old, still living at home and not working even 40 hours per week, there should be no such thing as "other money", or whatever you want to call it. Are you planning on living with your parents and trying to be a comic book dealer or flipper indefinitely, or are you planning on getting out on your own, with bills and responsibilities like the majority of those on these boards deal with every day? My second question is how much, exactly, have you made or lost buying and selling comics since you started this thread? My point in asking this last question is that your track record for buying and selling comics doesn't seem to be very good, to say the least, yet, as others have pointed out, you seem to continue to take chances on buying expensive comics, this latest time with $700.00 that isn't even yours. Why is that? I was going to say that my money is kept separate but yes my first step would be to get a job the has more hours because even with minimum wage that would about double what I earn. I do see myself moving out by myself as others on the boards have and it's been a while since I looked at the numbers since all I've been doing is selling stuff. That 700 dollars isn't mine that's true but I have not used or spent any of it at all. The deal is once he's satisfied it's mine but it's in my account till then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Gabe this road to success has certainly been a most bumpy road. Its time to face reality and understand that while there is no doubt that you love this hobby/business, timing in your life says different. Everyone on these boards at one time or another had to step away from comics and focus on whats important. To each individual it was different. Someone needed a car, or repair. Some had to go to college or pay bills. Some had the challenge of buying a home or just had to pay rent. Understanding what you are good at and what your are challenged with is important. Take a break from these comics and focus on whats real, what puts guaranteed money in your bank account. Flipping books doesnt always add up to a net gain and you can lose money and its just part of it. You cannot afford to lose money, youre in no position to be taking risks or gambling. You are always welcome to watch and learn and keep your finger on the pulse of whats going on, but plaing this game whith real money isnt something you need to be doing. Earn money by working hard, put a little aside each week or month and when the time is right, buy something. The road to success is not a real road we can all walk unfortunatly, some actually skip and run it while some just simply cant get out of the driveway. Your young and that is a big bonus. Take yourself out coach and come back another day. Chris I agree the timing isn't the best and I still have many things to work on but I need to find a way to have more then one stream of income because as soon as I leave a job that money dries up quickly, I still need to sell the comics I have left and I told my dad that I wanted to take voice acting classes for about two years and he said it's a stupid idea because there's no guarantee I'd make my money back just like I messed up with college while if I was doing something with the money and invested it I would have more. I'm just confused that every person is giving me different answers I'm not sure what to do...but I do know I need to brush up and my basic skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 There is always manual labor. It pays well, and you have to sweat, but if you want something bad enough, you will sweat. That money you put away to do what your passion is will not be in vain. It's the unwillingness to buckle down and do something you don't like that sets apart those that succeed with those that don't. I spent 10 years doing a job in an industry I loathed. I dealt with people that disgusted me. It bought me a house, I met my wife, and while I am currently unemployed, it gave me the skills to better myself and the chance to think about what direction I want my retirement to take. All it took was a little sweat and perseverance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Also I don't think anyone called you a shill? But your original story made it sound like you and you alone were buying the BB 28 and now it is you and at least one guy who may or may not be a friend... I've been called a shill by many people on this journal because they can't believe I made all these mistakes and he still is my friend who is still your friend??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So what is the deal with the book? Have it in hand yet? What is the hold up exactly? The comic came in today but UPS was playing stupid games and today the guy knocked once, dropped the package and ran off I'm just thankful the guy packed so well So what were "the stupid games" that UPS was playing? Are you saying the guy literally DROPPED the package and literally "ran off"? IS your friend satisfied with the book? Care to share some pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Also I don't think anyone called you a shill? But your original story made it sound like you and you alone were buying the BB 28 and now it is you and at least one guy who may or may not be a friend... I've been called a shill by many people on this journal because they can't believe I made all these mistakes and he still is my friend who is still your friend??? Sorry that part was a typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uchiha101 Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) So what is the deal with the book? Have it in hand yet? What is the hold up exactly? The comic came in today but UPS was playing stupid games and today the guy knocked once, dropped the package and ran off I'm just thankful the guy packed so well So what were "the stupid games" that UPS was playing? Are you saying the guy literally DROPPED the package and literally "ran off"? IS your friend satisfied with the book? Care to share some pics? The games that UPS was playing was claiming they knocked on the door and no one was there all three times which is bs and finally he can again and kocked once,and literally dropped the package and ran off. What pissed me off most is he said he couldn't understand my sign that said "Knock on door #1" Pics will come tomorrow as I need to ship the comic tomorrow anyway. Edited August 17, 2016 by uchiha101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1fan Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So what is the deal with the book? Have it in hand yet? What is the hold up exactly? The comic came in today but UPS was playing stupid games and today the guy knocked once, dropped the package and ran off I'm just thankful the guy packed so well So what were "the stupid games" that UPS was playing? Are you saying the guy literally DROPPED the package and literally "ran off"? IS your friend satisfied with the book? Care to share some pics? The games that UPS was playing was claiming they knocked on the door and no one was there all three times which is bs and finally he can again and kocked once,and literally dropped the package and ran off. What pissed me off most is he said he couldn't understand my sign that said "Knock on door #1" Pics will come tomorrow as I need to ship the comic tomorrow anyway. Okay, this requires more explanation. UPS is in my neighborhood a lot, and I have never, even in the busiest time of the year, seen a driver run to their truck, with or without a package, so why would they run from your house? Did you actually see him drop the package? Did you actually see him run away? Because if you did, you saw something that most, if not all of the board members have never seen. I could be wrong, and if I am I apologize in advance, but this is starting to appear that you are setting up a scenario where your friend is not happy with the case, possibly because of damage caused by the errant UPS driver, and thereby your deal goes south, but not from any fault of yours. You said that your friends only concern is the case. You can always pay to have the comic recased, but what if there is a defect on the covers that he didn't know about? Are you saying he wouldn't care about that, but would bail on the deal because of a damaged case that is easily replaced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 There is always manual labor. It pays well, and you have to sweat, but if you want something bad enough, you will sweat. That money you put away to do what your passion is will not be in vain. It's the unwillingness to buckle down and do something you don't like that sets apart those that succeed with those that don't. I spent 10 years doing a job in an industry I loathed. I dealt with people that disgusted me. It bought me a house, I met my wife, and while I am currently unemployed, it gave me the skills to better myself and the chance to think about what direction I want my retirement to take. All it took was a little sweat and perseverance. Not going to happen. OP stated awhile ago that he can't do physical labour - Can't remember the reason might be legit physical issue but don't want to crawl through a million pages. There is a pattern though, everything is always someone else's fault, from being scammed to crappy employment counselor to horrible bosses, etc., etc., etc. I don't doubt the OP has real challenges, but the OP has received TONS of kind advice ranging from job prep and search help, even buying advice (start small) and the OP chooses to ignore it and to continue his pursuit of "the big score" while not yet having a secure and independent foundation established for himself nor the knowledge to truly be successful in this. That is what irks a lot of people. We all want the OP to succeed, just all the signs point to this comic dealing as more of a distraction than a real benefit at this time, but the OP is going to do what the OP is going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Gabe this road to success has certainly been a most bumpy road. Its time to face reality and understand that while there is no doubt that you love this hobby/business, timing in your life says different. Everyone on these boards at one time or another had to step away from comics and focus on whats important. To each individual it was different. Someone needed a car, or repair. Some had to go to college or pay bills. Some had the challenge of buying a home or just had to pay rent. Understanding what you are good at and what your are challenged with is important. Take a break from these comics and focus on whats real, what puts guaranteed money in your bank account. Flipping books doesnt always add up to a net gain and you can lose money and its just part of it. You cannot afford to lose money, youre in no position to be taking risks or gambling. You are always welcome to watch and learn and keep your finger on the pulse of whats going on, but plaing this game whith real money isnt something you need to be doing. Earn money by working hard, put a little aside each week or month and when the time is right, buy something. The road to success is not a real road we can all walk unfortunatly, some actually skip and run it while some just simply cant get out of the driveway. Your young and that is a big bonus. Take yourself out coach and come back another day. Chris I agree the timing isn't the best and I still have many things to work on but I need to find a way to have more then one stream of income because as soon as I leave a job that money dries up quickly, I still need to sell the comics I have left and I told my dad that I wanted to take voice acting classes for about two years and he said it's a stupid idea because there's no guarantee I'd make my money back just like I messed up with college while if I was doing something with the money and invested it I would have more. I'm just confused that every person is giving me different answers I'm not sure what to do...but I do know I need to brush up and my basic skills. Who is giving you different answers? I'd say 95% of people on this thread have gotten to the point where they are saying give up on flipping comic books and concentrate on finding a full time job. Deliver papers in the morning - go wash dishes during a lunch shift at Fridays - do some data inputting for a temp place at nights - mow lawns in your neighborhood - the list of possible jobs in your area has got to be crazy long if you send all your time looking for ways to make money without flipping comics. Flipping books can be lucrative but also involves a fair amount of risk and times when you will not make any money. Risks and lack of money are things at this time are not a luxury you can afford. If your Dad thinks voice work may not be your thing then ask him to help you find a job and maybe the two of you can get you moving forward. Edited August 17, 2016 by 1Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I missed the part about voice acting classes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 There is always manual labor. It pays well, and you have to sweat, but if you want something bad enough, you will sweat. That money you put away to do what your passion is will not be in vain. It's the unwillingness to buckle down and do something you don't like that sets apart those that succeed with those that don't. I spent 10 years doing a job in an industry I loathed. I dealt with people that disgusted me. It bought me a house, I met my wife, and while I am currently unemployed, it gave me the skills to better myself and the chance to think about what direction I want my retirement to take. All it took was a little sweat and perseverance. Not going to happen. OP stated awhile ago that he can't do physical labour - Can't remember the reason might be legit physical issue but don't want to crawl through a million pages. There is a pattern though, everything is always someone else's fault, from being scammed to crappy employment counselor to horrible bosses, etc., etc., etc. I don't doubt the OP has real challenges, but the OP has received TONS of kind advice ranging from job prep and search help, even buying advice (start small) and the OP chooses to ignore it and to continue his pursuit of "the big score" while not yet having a secure and independent foundation established for himself nor the knowledge to truly be successful in this. That is what irks a lot of people. We all want the OP to succeed, just all the signs point to this comic dealing as more of a distraction than a real benefit at this time, but the OP is going to do what the OP is going to do. Yes, I've noticed that trend since OP first posted here. Damaged case, too common these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So, to be clear, you currently have a job right? No shame in minimum wage work, but are you pulling decent hours? How many hours per week would you "guesstimate" that you spend scouring the internet and other venues looking for "deals"? To be clear I have a job but my hours have been cut so I won't be working there much longer. I never checked how long I search for deals but at least 10 hours a week. Also, I'm not sure if you look at it this way, but there is an old saying, time is money. Even at minimum wage, those 10 hours per week, spent looking for deals "cost you" about $450 per month. $11.25 minimum wage in Ontario x 10 hours per week x 4 (roughly) weeks in a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So, to be clear, you currently have a job right? No shame in minimum wage work, but are you pulling decent hours? How many hours per week would you "guesstimate" that you spend scouring the internet and other venues looking for "deals"? To be clear I have a job but my hours have been cut so I won't be working there much longer. I never checked how long I search for deals but at least 10 hours a week. Also, I'm not sure if you look at it this way, but there is an old saying, time is money. Even at minimum wage, those 10 hours per week, spent looking for deals "cost you" about $450 per month. $11.25 minimum wage in Ontario x 10 hours per week x 4 (roughly) weeks in a month That equation only works if you are passing up making money by spending time online. He is missing out on time spent researching job boards, thinking about ways to make money doing stuff he likes (spending time on the computer) that doesn't involve risks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I spend most of my time online and don't make a cent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall-Crawler Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So, to be clear, you currently have a job right? No shame in minimum wage work, but are you pulling decent hours? How many hours per week would you "guesstimate" that you spend scouring the internet and other venues looking for "deals"? To be clear I have a job but my hours have been cut so I won't be working there much longer. I never checked how long I search for deals but at least 10 hours a week. Also, I'm not sure if you look at it this way, but there is an old saying, time is money. Even at minimum wage, those 10 hours per week, spent looking for deals "cost you" about $450 per month. $11.25 minimum wage in Ontario x 10 hours per week x 4 (roughly) weeks in a month That equation only works if you are passing up making money by spending time online. He is missing out on time spent researching job boards, thinking about ways to make money doing stuff he likes (spending time on the computer) that doesn't involve risks. Fair point. Completely agree time would be better spent looking for other work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkdrawer Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So, to be clear, you currently have a job right? No shame in minimum wage work, but are you pulling decent hours? How many hours per week would you "guesstimate" that you spend scouring the internet and other venues looking for "deals"? To be clear I have a job but my hours have been cut so I won't be working there much longer. I never checked how long I search for deals but at least 10 hours a week. Also, I'm not sure if you look at it this way, but there is an old saying, time is money. Even at minimum wage, those 10 hours per week, spent looking for deals "cost you" about $450 per month. $11.25 minimum wage in Ontario x 10 hours per week x 4 (roughly) weeks in a month That equation only works if you are passing up making money by spending time online. He is missing out on time spent researching job boards, thinking about ways to make money doing stuff he likes (spending time on the computer) that doesn't involve risks. Fair point. Completely agree time would be better spent looking for other work... maybe he's looking while on the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 So, to be clear, you currently have a job right? No shame in minimum wage work, but are you pulling decent hours? How many hours per week would you "guesstimate" that you spend scouring the internet and other venues looking for "deals"? To be clear I have a job but my hours have been cut so I won't be working there much longer. I never checked how long I search for deals but at least 10 hours a week. Also, I'm not sure if you look at it this way, but there is an old saying, time is money. Even at minimum wage, those 10 hours per week, spent looking for deals "cost you" about $450 per month. $11.25 minimum wage in Ontario x 10 hours per week x 4 (roughly) weeks in a month That equation only works if you are passing up making money by spending time online. He is missing out on time spent researching job boards, thinking about ways to make money doing stuff he likes (spending time on the computer) that doesn't involve risks. Fair point. Completely agree time would be better spent looking for other work... maybe he's looking while on the job. I would be. He doesn't strike me as the motivated type though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman399 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I spend most of my time online and don't make a cent Who's webcam feed have I been watching??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I spend most of my time online and don't make a cent Who's webcam feed have I been watching??? I dunno but you better ask for a refund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
