s14roller Posted April 6, 2017 Share Posted April 6, 2017 17 hours ago, STORMSHADOW_80 said: I actually thought the same thing. He's so grumpy it's funny. But still could have been nicer about it. Agreed, I couldnt help but laugh at the response as it was rather unexpected. It is what it is, unfortunately once someone gets jaded, it's hard to come back especially over time. STORMSHADOW_80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 02/04/2017 at 4:16 AM, kav said: Not sure if this will make sense to anyone but is the girl Ditko's hand model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 On 06/04/2017 at 0:09 AM, Unca Ben said: The more Steve Ditko topics I read, the more I understand why he stays away from fandom. Ditko's criticism on society is nothing compared to people's criticism of him. Why limit it to fandom though? Avoid everyone, that's what I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Marwood & I said: Not sure if this will make sense to anyone but is the girl Ditko's hand model? OUCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Get Marwood & I Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 19 minutes ago, kav said: Two! Two people get the hand model thing, ah ha ha ha haaa. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 I always get stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, kav said: I always get stuff. Well get stuffed then. Ah ha ha ha haaa. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 OUCH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 8, 2017 Share Posted April 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, kav said: OUCH! Ah ha ha ha haaa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Namor Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 4/2/2017 at 11:15 AM, Captain Canuck said: I understand he considers his role in comics as work to hire, but think about how much good he could do if he took the money from selling his art and from the movies and donated it. Wouldn't helping those who are less fortunate justify it? As well, he still wouldn't be keeping the money. If it made him sleep better at night, have the money directly deposited with the charity, so he doesn't have to see or hear about it. Helping others is the opposite of an objectivists viewpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Namor Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 On 4/5/2017 at 6:09 PM, Unca Ben said: The more Steve Ditko topics I read, the more I understand why he stays away from fandom. Ditko's criticism on society is nothing compared to people's criticism of him. No doubt. He left Marvel 50 YEARS AGO. He's asked for NOTHING. He owes us NOTHING. I guarantee you, if some random strangers started sending ME letters asking weird questions, if l DID answer them, I'd be a lot more grouchy than Ditko's been. Unca Ben and Get Marwood & I 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unca Ben Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Chuck Gower said: On 4/5/2017 at 4:09 PM, Unca Ben said: The more Steve Ditko topics I read, the more I understand why he stays away from fandom. Ditko's criticism on society is nothing compared to people's criticism of him. No doubt. He left Marvel 50 YEARS AGO. He's asked for NOTHING. He owes us NOTHING. I guarantee you, if some random strangers started sending ME letters asking weird questions, if l DID answer them, I'd be a lot more grouchy than Ditko's been. Yep. If Ditko was paid in the range of $25 - $30 a page for his ASM art (which included pencil & ink & plotting) then he made around $25K - $26.5K for the approximate 880 ASM & AF 15 Spidey pages he drew. That would be his total output not including covers. I count roughly 39 covers he penciled & inked, at what, $50 a cover (maybe?)? So add another $2K to make ≈ $27- $28.5K total. An "average" Ditko ASM page sells for what, $25K - $70K nowadays? And an exceptional page would be valued in six figures? So the sale of one low end ASM page matches what he was paid for his entire 3½ year ASM output. The last Heritage sale for the ASM #34 pg was $71.7K which is ≈ 2½ times what Ditko made in total. If there's any owing due around here, it ain't by Ditko. Yeah, let's have the hubris to talk about writing him funny letters and let's call him grumpy based on anecdotal and subjective evidence. He deserves it. After all, the only thing he's done for us is nearly single-handedly giving us one of the three most enduring comic book characters ever. edit: and I'm not implying that the folks who actually have written him did any such thing. To the contrary. Edited April 10, 2017 by Unca Ben Prince Namor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMSHADOW_80 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 I've never heard Ditko complain about money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 10 hours ago, Chuck Gower said: No doubt. He left Marvel 50 YEARS AGO. He's asked for NOTHING. He owes us NOTHING. I guarantee you, if some random strangers started sending ME letters asking weird questions, if l DID answer them, I'd be a lot more grouchy than Ditko's been. I keep saying this and people keep ignoring it. HE SOLICITS LETTERS FROM PEOPLE SO HE CAN BE RUDE TO THEM. He has asked for something-letters! STORMSHADOW_80 and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 12 minutes ago, kav said: I keep saying this and people keep ignoring it. HE SOLICITS LETTERS FROM PEOPLE SO HE CAN BE RUDE TO THEM. He has asked for something-letters! Kav, you've been here long enough to know that everything you say today is forgotten tomorrow. People aren't ignoring you. They're just senile. Now.... Sorry, what did you say again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, Marwood & I said: Kav, you've been here long enough to know that everything you say today is forgotten tomorrow. People aren't ignoring you. They're just senile. Now.... Sorry, what did you say again? I will keep saying it again and again and again and again and again and again 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, kav said: I will keep saying it again and again and again and again and again and again Saying what? I've forgotten what we were talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unca Ben Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) Construing Ditko's no-nonsense attitude as rudeness is a lot of spoiled applesauce by those with no empathetic purchase, or know only nonsense themselves. There are plenty of examples of extended corrospondence with Ditko where he reponds with continued patience and kindness, just talk with Robin Snyder about this. With all the information we have now, folks can't pretend they don't know what Ditko's feelings and thoughts are about autographs and interviews and subjects like Spider-Man. Persistently annoying the man about these things is rude and shows a conscious disregard of his wishes and ideas. Ditko is not a landmark attraction, he is a person - and deserves to be treated as such. . Edited April 11, 2017 by Unca Ben slym2none 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_highgrade Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 A few years ago I and another boardie actually had a very nice conversation with Ditko for over a half an hour. Although, he was a little rude to Greggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
