CGC, The Only Slabbing Service Allowed Within The Walls Of C2E2/ECCC Until 2020
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Will they slab any comic or only certain eras or price points?

 

I'm hoping for golden age.

 

I believe they'll slab anything when they do onsite grading.

 

 

No magazines on-site. As far as books that are thick like fireside books, etc...I am not sure. Would be worth asking before lugging the books to the show.

 

Makes sense. In the back of my mind, I was thinking they didn't do magazines onsite.

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I think one thing that is getting lost here is that CGC has been the exclusive onsite grader many times in the past. The only difference was that they didn't have a contract to be exclusive, there was just no one else that would/could do it. If there had been competition at the time, there would have been exclusive contracts at the time as well.

 

It's just a smart business move and all the handwringing and discussions about it is just added free advertising.

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All CBCS needs to do is what Coke did to Pepsi in the early 00's. Pepsi went to a few restaurants to gain exclusivity for soft drinks (think KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Hooters and about 8 others). This is CGCs exclusivity move at C2E2 and ECCC. Both good moves, right? Maybe, maybe not.

 

All CBCS needs to do is something similar to what Coke did in retaliation by going to the other restaurants and say, hey, do you want to sell the same soft drink as your competitor restaurants? It worked well for them, here's a breakdown of which restaurants use Coke vs. Pepsi: http://www.businessinsider.com/restaurants-that-serve-coke-vs-pepsi-2013-12.

 

CBCS needs to snag up all the smaller con exclusivity rights and may try and snag SDCC too? All the smaller cons add up to far more than these two huge ones, especially if they land SDCC.

 

Granted, the selling point may not be the same and it may not need to be. If CBCS can pony up some dough I think it may serve them well.

 

 

Jerome

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Pony up some cash?

 

Customers can ship their books just like they did before.

 

It isn't like CGC has exclusive shipping rights.

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All CBCS needs to do is what Coke did to Pepsi in the early 00's. Pepsi went to a few restaurants to gain exclusivity for soft drinks (think KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Hooters and about 8 others). This is CGCs exclusivity move at C2E2 and ECCC. Both good moves, right? Maybe, maybe not.

 

All CBCS needs to do is something similar to what Coke did in retaliation by going to the other restaurants and say, hey, do you want to sell the same soft drink as your competitor restaurants? It worked well for them, here's a breakdown of which restaurants use Coke vs. Pepsi: http://www.businessinsider.com/restaurants-that-serve-coke-vs-pepsi-2013-12.

 

CBCS needs to snag up all the smaller con exclusivity rights and may try and snag SDCC too? All the smaller cons add up to far more than these two huge ones, especially if they land SDCC.

 

Granted, the selling point may not be the same and it may not need to be. If CBCS can pony up some dough I think it may serve them well.

 

 

Jerome

 

I think it'd be a trap for CBCS to try and play this game given their current position. They'd have to start doing on site. They aren't equipped and stretching to do something they can't handle is a bad move.

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I applaud CGC and ReedPOP for making this deal. Not only does it allow CGC to offer the very appealing onsite grading and to further themselves from any competition, but it also may very well be a sign of good things to come.

 

If we are lucky this will expand beyond just grading companies and other shows will take note. For example, it would be really nice if cons only allowed the leader of mystery boxes to set up at the show to increase booth space for comic book dealers, and creators, and celebrities.

 

Perhaps ReedPOP sees CGC as THE grading company, just as many of us do. Similar to how many see Red Bull as THE energy drink and they may want to be known as a show of excellence. I'm all for walking into a show to see it is loaded with the top dealers in the business at what they do. Especially when I just paid several hundred dollars to get to and attend the show. I'd much rather have a larger selection of respected comic book dealers, creators, and celebrities than see one more sword or home made pillow dealer.

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I can't see CBCS being able to get exclusive rights to any of the big Cons where CGC is doing onsite grading since CGC brings in way too much money at those events. CGC on the other hand can obviously afford to get exclusive rights at C2E2 and I'd not be surprised if Baltimore and Heroes were in the works. At those shows its all about CGC anyhow so not a huge big blow to CBCS.

 

I'd actually be surprised if CBCS was able to buy exclusive rights to any of the bigger Cons just because of their current market share. Pepsi and Coke are pretty much equal competitors where as CGC and CBCS are currently more similar to Coke vs RC Cola (not even in the same league in terms of market share). Current E-Bay search shows 110,308 hits when searching for CGC and 13,583 when searching for CBCS. Not sure if CBCS is growing so maybe it will be a more equal number in the future but for now CGC is obviously the big dog that can afford to push around the small guy a bit.

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All CBCS needs to do is what Coke did to Pepsi in the early 00's. Pepsi went to a few restaurants to gain exclusivity for soft drinks (think KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, Hooters and about 8 others). This is CGCs exclusivity move at C2E2 and ECCC. Both good moves, right? Maybe, maybe not.

 

All CBCS needs to do is something similar to what Coke did in retaliation by going to the other restaurants and say, hey, do you want to sell the same soft drink as your competitor restaurants? It worked well for them, here's a breakdown of which restaurants use Coke vs. Pepsi: http://www.businessinsider.com/restaurants-that-serve-coke-vs-pepsi-2013-12.

 

CBCS needs to snag up all the smaller con exclusivity rights and may try and snag SDCC too? All the smaller cons add up to far more than these two huge ones, especially if they land SDCC.

 

Granted, the selling point may not be the same and it may not need to be. If CBCS can pony up some dough I think it may serve them well.

 

 

Jerome

 

I think it'd be a trap for CBCS to try and play this game given their current position. They'd have to start doing on site. They aren't equipped and stretching to do something they can't handle is a bad move.

 

CBCS can still play. The game need not be "official onsite comic grading service at shows" it can simply be " the official comic grading service " and disallow booths by other comic grading services.

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Pony up some cash?

 

Customers can ship their books just like they did before.

 

It isn't like CGC has exclusive shipping rights.

 

 

 

Hmm...USPS has been complaining about losing money....maybe they'd be open to it.

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Sounds silly to me. A great product wouldn't need to worry about being the only one allowed to do something.

 

Most consumers are geared toward lower price but if they want to spend their budget on these tactics go ahead.

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1st CBCS does not do onsite grading at nearly as many shows as CGC does. CGC has been doing 3+ shows a year for some time now (NYC in 2009, Megacon and WW Chicago for several years now and Baltimore the last couple of years). If I'm not mistaken, CBCS has only done onsite locally so far in the Tampa / Orlando area.

 

Uh, one correction... CBCS did had their booth set up in Fan Expo Vancouver last weekend recently. :shy:

 

Yes but they didn't do onsite grading, which is what we're talking about.

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Sounds silly to me. A great product wouldn't need to worry about being the only one allowed to do something.

 

Most consumers are geared toward lower price but if they want to spend their budget on these tactics go ahead.

 

 

Is that what corporations are when they move to make their brand the most dominant brand in their field and continue to secure that status...worried?

 

This sounds like it's just for onsite grading anyway. People can mail their books to anyone they want and people are free to attend any convention they want. It's far more protestation from some than seems warranted.

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Basic business practice.

 

Smart on the part of CGC.

 

Nothing else to say.

 

Moving along...

 

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Sounds silly to me. A great product wouldn't need to worry about being the only one allowed to do something.

 

Most consumers are geared toward lower price but if they want to spend their budget on these tactics go ahead.

 

 

Is that what corporations are when they move to make their brand the most dominant brand in their field and continue to secure that status...worried?

 

This sounds like it's just for onsite grading anyway. People can mail their books to anyone they want and people are free to attend any convention they want. It's far more protestation from some than seems warranted.

 

Great move on their part and how much did it really cost to make sure CGC is the only name people see when they want to grade books bought at the Con? CBCS usually buys 2 booths from what I typically see and is there really that many people that attend the show to submit books to CBCS? If CGC offered the $2,000 CBCS spend on 2 booths (which the promoters fill with someone else) I'd think the promoter would be hard pressed to not bend over backwards for CGC in that case. My number is purely speculation.

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It's a great business move. Everyone wanted competition, this is a facet of competition.

 

Exactly...this is win/win for the consumer as we just got two extra shows with onsite. I don't see a single downside, the only people who should be upset is WizardWorld as they lost exclusivity of onsite for the Chicago market.

 

Jim

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It's a great business move. Everyone wanted competition, this is a facet of competition.

 

Exactly...this is win/win for the consumer as we just got two extra shows with onsite. I don't see a single downside, the only people who should be upset is WizardWorld as they lost exclusivity of onsite for the Chicago market.

 

Jim

 

 

And even that lost exclusivity is minor given the gap in time between the two shows annually.

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Having the casino open for business at the show is always good for the show.

 

Brings buyers and puts graded material just graded on the show floor for sale.

 

Twinkling lights people, action, $$$$ flying everywhere. Not sure why this isn't being seen as why CGC is doing this.

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Having the casino open for business at the show is always good for the show.

 

Brings buyers and puts graded material just graded on the show floor for sale.

 

Twinkling lights people, action, $$$$ flying everywhere. Not sure why this isn't being seen as why CGC is doing this.

 

Stop making sense Bob

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Basic business practice.

 

Smart on the part of CGC.

 

Nothing else to say.

 

Moving along...

 

:)

 

Maybe but still bad for the consumers [us] so why would that make you happy?

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