reddwarf666222 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, RockMyAmadeus said: And on this point, which has also been addressed 1,001 times: yes, everyone who sells a Sig Series book is trying to "profit off their signatures." And...? Did you know publishers try to profit off of far more effort than just signatures...? Did you know printers try to profit off of far more effort than just signatures...? Did you know distributors try to profit off of far more effort than just signatures...? Did you know retailers try to profit off of far more effort than just signatures...? Yes...in whatever degree a person sells SS slabs, they are trying to "profit" off a creator's signature. Again...AND...? If the creator doesn't want people profiting off his work, the choice is simple: charge so much that not a single person, on the sweetest book, could ever profit...or don't sign. What someone does with their property is THEIR BUSINESS and THEIR BUSINESS ALONE. All the fancy arguments and justifications don't have any bearing on that. The creator can sign...or not sign...charge whatever he/she wants...but what someone does with their legally obtained property is none of their business. And, if creators want to be so greedy and selfish as to raise their prices to remove any potential for profit for anyone, guess what...? People won't support them anymore. No sigs...no new books being bought...and then what? What you preach is just another facet of socialism: "it's not FAIR!!!" If creators are smart...and many of them are....they'll figure out a balance, a way to make it work for everyone involved, that doesn't involve discriminatory practices against one segment of their fan base...and yes, SS people ARE fans, for the most part, despite the claims of the socialist crowd...and recognizes the ACTUAL VALUE of their signature in the market. And that's all anyone is asking for. So in other words they are hurting your bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddwarf666222 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: That's the point. Don't count my money, and I won't count yours. You are more than welcome to come to my house and count my money. Just call first that way I can break out the china, prepare the kolbasz, cook the Kolbasz in Hungarian Beer, make the Hungarian Chili Hot Dog Sauce, got the Hawaiian hot dog buns out, have the shredded cheese ready, and have the Mr. Pibb in the bottle out for you. You will just have to sign a fake hot dog bun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 18 minutes ago, reddwarf666222 said: So in other words they are hurting your bottom line. Oh, yeah, totally. I was set to clear at least $3 billion in fat profits this year, but since the CGC punishment tax, it's only going to be $1.5 billion. Shucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, reddwarf666222 said: You are more than welcome to come to my house and count my money. Too bad that's not really true. You'd tolerate it for about a day, day and a half, then reality would hit you, and you'd quickly change course. Reality's got a funny way of doing that to people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RockMyAmadeus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, Hypocriticaloscity said: I'm glad to see you've changed your tune over the years. I remember when you were the exact opposite, telling people what they can/can't do with their book, how things like this reeked of profiteering, etc. Of course, it goes without saying...as EVERYTHING "Alex Forrest/Eric Cartman Lyin' Stu" says...that that's not even remotely the same situation. Distinction? Eff distinction. But he wouldn't understand that, because he's lawless, and eff your rules. Whatever. He does what he wants. I wonder what would happen if other people behaved the same way...? You know, did whatever they wanted, and dared people to stop them... Those were special fan projects, done for fans, by fans. They were made available AT COST, some of which had substantially higher value (Magnus #0, Solar #10, Harbinger #1, etc.) They were never intended to be resold, and it's sad and pathetic that people got involved with the sole intent to flip them...and to whom? Why, the fans who missed out in the first place! Of course it "reeked" of profiteering...those projects were done by fans, FOR fans...not flippers. Their express reason for being was to recognize and celebrate a shared, common passion. And mine...? To date, nearly 15 years after the first project, I still haven't sold a single one. Gave a few away, though. Because profit, right...? That's like the guy who lies to the creator and says "I'm your #1 fan!!!!" and the creator foolishly does something special for them, only to find that gesture up for sale on eBay....at which point, the creator takes it out on everyone else. That's not at all the situation being discussed here, but, naturally, "Alex Forrest/Eric Cartman Lyin' Stu" can't be bothered with such petty (to him) distinctions. I do love how people from the "it's not FAIR!!!" crowd make things up like "telling people what they can/can't do"...it's a frequent argument you hear by those who are offended that anyone suggests people behave a certain way. Saying what someone shouldn't do always, always translates to "telling" people what they can/can't do. No, you can do whatever you want...the only people who can actually tell you what you can/cannot do, and have the power to enforce it, are people in authority, and I am certainly not one of those. You can almost hear them stomping their footie pajamas on the floor, yelling "you can't tell ME what to do!!!" at the top of their lungs. You're right, I can't. That doesn't mean I can't tell you what you should or shouldn't do. Edited March 17, 2018 by RockMyAmadeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 47 minutes ago, Logan510 said: +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Hypocriticaloscity said: Jesus Joe's idea of lawlessness = going over the speed limit. I wonder what would happen if other people behaved the way "Alex Forrest/Eric Cartman Stu" behaved...you know, eff you, eff your rules, I do what I want, try and stop me...I wonder what the ramifications would be in such a world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, Logan510 said: Ooof! Why are you two absolutely hellbent on provoking a fight...? What do you hope to accomplish? Petty vengeance? What is your end goal, here? Do you want @Architecht to ban me? Will that make the two of you happy...? Do you think you two will be able to endlessly provoke conflict and get away with it forever...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RockMyAmadeus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Logan510 said: +1 reddwarf666222 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddwarf666222 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Logan510 said: Logan510 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, reddwarf666222 said: 2 hours ago, Logan510 said: +2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 All I can say right now is... I'm hungry all of the sudden... with all the talk about sausages sauteing in beer, Dr. Pibb, and all of the popcorn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan510 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, newshane said: All I can say right now is... I'm hungry all of the sudden... with all the talk about sausages sauteing in beer, Dr. Pibb, and all of the popcorn... I prefer Mr Pepper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Logan510 said: I prefer Mr Pepper MY BRAIN! WHAT ARE HAPPEN?! Logan510 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYPE-R Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 hours ago, reddwarf666222 said: So in other words they are hurting your bottom line. Why do you care about his bottom line so much? What he does with his possessions is his business, not yours or the creators or anyone else. jsilverjanet, The Brain and RockMyAmadeus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, OhThatsRight said: It's not illegal and can't get me arrested, can it? So, yeah, more "lawlessness" on the way. "Yeah, eff you! I do what I want! Try and stop me! I have no regard for courtesy, or rationality, or fair play, or honesty, or civility! Eff you and your "morality"!!" 6 hours ago, OhThatsRight said: Oh, you meant more in the metaphysical sense. Yes Preacher Joe, your moral superiority shall lead you to the promised land, while we will all dwell in the depths of our own personal Hell. You're in hell now. What do you think compels you to try and shame people into silence for the high crime of disagreeing with you, of daring to challenge you on your own terms, while you pretend to be the moral crusader, hypocritically and self-righteously condemning people for "hypocrisy" and "self-righteousness"...? The fictional hell of Dante's fevered imagination doesn't exist. Hell is on display in you, and I choose to not go there with you...and I certainly could, but that would likely result in 1. loss of support, and 2. my ban to go with yours. So...have at it, "Alex Forrest/Eric Cartman Stu." Certainly, no one can tell YOU what to do. Such a shining example you are. Edited March 17, 2018 by RockMyAmadeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logan510 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 hours ago, TYPE-R said: Why do you care about his bottom line so much? What he does with his possessions is his business, not yours or the creators or anyone else. It’s at least a reasonable explanation reddwarf666222 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
