Matches_Malone Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, fsumavila said: but I side with Liefeld on this. If it comes out of a printer, then it's not true original art. Which means I have no interest in it. If I purchase an original digital print photograph directly from the photographers approved printed edition, is it original art? Link to post Share on other sites
Twanj Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 34 minutes ago, ESeffinga said: Good thing none of these has value... Doh, comics! I thought you meant first edition books or something. ESeffinga 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ESeffinga Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 (edited) Yeah, I just find it funny that there is this mental speed bump there. Time will tell if the mono print thing retains financial value, just like it does with comic art and all things. I mean, being real here, many of us don’t think comic original art will ever be “Art” with a cap A in actual art museums (as opposed to the likely probability of it showing up in cultural museums). So in reality comic OA is just another class of collectible, same as comics, or cards or stamps or what have you. Monoprints are potentially just another side of this. I’ve mentioned the Photography art connection before. I won’t belabor it here. It’s not a unique enterprise. And it has a track record of successes, though time will tell their staying power as well. Like a lot of old comic art, a lot of early photography was never made with an eye towards posterity, and a lot of it degrades quickly over time. Edited December 19, 2020 by ESeffinga Link to post Share on other sites
Twanj Posted December 19, 2020 Share Posted December 19, 2020 2 hours ago, fsumavila said: I'm really curious to see how the secondary market for items like this develops. I haven't paid close attention to any auctions on Clink or Heritage -- have these started to show up there? As I think has been mentioned, some Dauterman prints showed up on CL. 2 minutes ago, Matches_Malone said: If I purchase an original digital print photograph directly from the photographers approved printed edition, is it original art? And of course there are limited edition photograph prints (like Ansel Adams and Marilyn Monroe stuff) on HA. Link to post Share on other sites
dirtymartini1 Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 If a mono print gets xeroxed in the woods, now which 1 is the artists proof? Only PGX knows..... Link to post Share on other sites
lobrac Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) So what do monoprints like these originally sell for when they’re released, before they hit a secondary market like an auction house? (There are 2 in this lot): https://comics.ha.com/itm/memorabilia/comic-related/mikel-janin-batman-artist-proofs-monoprints-group-of-2-dc-2018-2019-total-2-items-/a/122108-17773.s Edited February 23 by lobrac Twanj 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Matches_Malone Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 14 minutes ago, lobrac said: So what do monoprints like these originally sell for when they’re released, before they hit a secondary market like an auction house? (There are 2 in this lot): https://comics.ha.com/itm/memorabilia/comic-related/mikel-janin-batman-artist-proofs-monoprints-group-of-2-dc-2018-2019-total-2-items-/a/122108-17773.s Less than $100 each Twanj and lobrac 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
vodou Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 18 minutes ago, Matches_Malone said: Less than $100 each Too bad. If Mikel had decided to physically draw that Bats-prominent page...I'm seeing about $800, no? Link to post Share on other sites
Shin-Kaiser Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, vodou said: Too bad. If Mikel had decided to physically draw that Bats-prominent page...I'm seeing about $800, no? My take on this, based on nothing but my opinion: Monoprints, due to the fact that they're entirely from recent comic books, are most probably sought after by younger collectors, new to the hobby. Monoprints don't seem to be desirable to older collectors. Heritage seems to be the place for older collectors to auction off and bid on art, I remember reading this somewhere - forgot where. ComicLink, I have been told, is the place for more recent artwork. I feel this auction would have done better on ComicLink over Heritage. Younger audience, more receptive to monoprints. Isn't Comiclink the place where the Lady Thor Monoprint sold for profit? It's about knowing the market, which I feel is a little splintered at the moment, with 2 (maybe 3) factions. This Batman monoprint art was marketed to the wrong people....that and the fact that the artwork isn't that great to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites
Twanj Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 5 hours ago, Shin-Kaiser said: I feel this auction would have done better on ComicLink over Heritage. Younger audience, more receptive to monoprints. Isn't Comiclink the place where the Lady Thor Monoprint sold for profit? Anybody remember what this sold for? I agree CL may have done better. Shin-Kaiser 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Matches_Malone Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 27 minutes ago, Twanj said: Anybody remember what this sold for? I agree CL may have done better. Around $1500. I could be off by a few hundreds, but It sold twice on different occasions for about the same. Heritage was the wrong place to sell this item. CL or eBay are better suited. Twanj 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hockeyflow33 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 20 hours ago, lobrac said: So what do monoprints like these originally sell for when they’re released, before they hit a secondary market like an auction house? (There are 2 in this lot): https://comics.ha.com/itm/memorabilia/comic-related/mikel-janin-batman-artist-proofs-monoprints-group-of-2-dc-2018-2019-total-2-items-/a/122108-17773.s Link to post Share on other sites
vodou Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, Hockeyflow33 said: er...so not really this then: 20 hours ago, Matches_Malone said: Less than $100 each Rick2you2 and Will_K 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Matches_Malone Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 2 hours ago, vodou said: er...so not really this then: I sort of remember been around $80 in 2018. Edited February 24 by Matches_Malone Link to post Share on other sites
