CycleGirl Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) I suppose it takes a generation to really know whether a character has staying power beyond the original creator. For example, Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Iron Man, Archie, Micky Mouse, Donald Duck, outlived their creators and were eventually written and drawn by multiple artists and writers. We won't know whether Rick Grimes or Deena Pilgrim (Powers) will be around after Kirkman and Bendis are done with them. Therefore, it's unclear whether or not their first appearances will be considered true keys in the future. Edited March 21, 2019 by CycleGirl Point Five and ComicConnoisseur 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creaturefan95 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: Too derivative. Ever heard of Key Comics? Edited March 21, 2019 by creaturefan95 war is hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, creaturefan95 said: Ever heard of Key Comics? You may have to jog my memory... Did someone post a picture or 2 in this thread? Wait a minute - has "Key Comics" ever even existed!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkowl Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Ultimate Fallout 4 could really be a major player in the future. Edited March 21, 2019 by Darkowl ComicConnoisseur and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creaturefan95 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: You may have to jog my memory... Did someone post a picture or 2 in this thread? Wait a minute - has "Key Comics" ever even existed!? Sorry, by the time I decided to embed a link, you had already quoted my post Edited March 21, 2019 by creaturefan95 war is hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 minute ago, creaturefan95 said: Sorry, by the time I decided to embed a link, you had already quoted my post I'm being a sarcastic b-hole. Sorry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
creaturefan95 Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: I'm being a sarcastic b-hole. Sorry... Oh, I took your post to be sincere theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NelsonAI Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I was half joking about Dazzler but continuing with the X-Men mutant rollout methodology, introduce Dazzler in a cameo appearance. Gauge fan reaction, then see if it warrants a solo movie or larger role. That's how they introduced Colossus, Cable, Kitty Pryde, etc. The upcoming Phoenix movie maybe a great opportunity to squeeze Dazzler in there. Disney now options all actors to 6 picture deals to lock them in for 2 trilogies. They need younger actors and actresses. Once you get the movie cameo, the 2 aforementioned Dazzler books will spike. If a solo movie kicks in, it has the potential to be a key. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Movies don't determine keys... bc and CycleGirl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 56 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: Movies don't determine keys... I agree. Movies determine price bumps, which usually are temporary, but do not usually go back to baseline. Keys in my mind have value idependant of spikes caused by other media. CycleGirl and theCapraAegagrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 22 hours ago, CycleGirl said: I suppose it takes a generation to really know whether a character has staying power beyond the original creator. For example, Superman, Batman, Spiderman, Iron Man, Archie, Micky Mouse, Donald Duck, outlived their creators and were eventually written and drawn by multiple artists and writers. We won't know whether Rick Grimes or Deena Pilgrim (Powers) will be around after Kirkman and Bendis are done with them. Therefore, it's unclear whether or not their first appearances will be considered true keys in the future. THIS. CycleGirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CycleGirl Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, drotto said: I agree. Movies determine price bumps, which usually are temporary, but do not usually go back to baseline. Keys in my mind have value idependant of spikes caused by other media. This is a good point. Look at FF #1. It was one of the most important keys long before the recent run of Marvel movies and it has not been diminished (very much) by some really awful movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabaLament Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I hope so. I'd like to think Image has something neat up its sleeve for Spawn #300. I hope Cates & Stegman can continue to thin the symbiote herd & give us a Venom/Carnage story with the impact of the initial ASM #361-363, or Maximum Carnage arc. I'm really hoping Three Jokers is remembered for the quality of the writing and/or art, rather than the excessive variety in variant covers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 11:37 PM, Mercury Man said: Does Mile Morales really warrant any excitement?! He's basically Spider-Man. Have you read much of the Miles Morales stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miraclemet Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) Havent seen Kamala Kahn as Ms Marvel mentioned. I think were she to get exposure, say in the next Spiderverse movie, she could cement her 1st app as key (and not just the variant cover 1st appearance). Edited March 24, 2019 by miraclemet ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Man Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 5 hours ago, miraclemet said: Have you read much of the Miles Morales stuff? Enough to know he isn't that compelling to me, and upgrading a few of his powers to make him 'better' than Peter Parker, is a cheap grab to make him 2.0. Should have left him in the Ultimate Universe. Now he is just another Spider character in an already crowded field. I have more interest in Major X than Miles at this point. At least Major X may be somewhat unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Will we see another superman/Spider-Man? no will we see another Wolverine/punisher? yes Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 51 minutes ago, Aweandlorder said: Will we see another superman/Spider-Man? no will we see another Wolverine/punisher? yes Will we see another Woodgod?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastaar Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) WEAPON H Nuff Said.... I'm joking. But DC really thought they had something with Damage. X-23 has a shot at being pretty key. Edited March 25, 2019 by Blastaar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 On 3/21/2019 at 6:06 PM, CycleGirl said: Rick Grimes He is a one character appearance except for parody, all of the other Key characters such as Superman lend themselves to appear in multiple comic titles, that's what makes them important. Spider-Gwen and Harley appealed to a growing young female readership that has worked in their favour, Captain Marvel won't have the same appeal because she is just too powerful and a carbon copy of her male counterpart. I think that if there were to be another Key that it would come from this target audience and be young feisty cute. CycleGirl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
