Which comics are the most likely to have a page missing?
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My vote: Amazing Spider-Man #20. I have four copies of these... bought years ago and put away.

Well, after getting them out and getting ready to sell them, I now realize that two of the four had the last page cut out... where the pin-up was...

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Check out the GPA census; it is riddled with Qualified books.

The crazy thing is that, even without that page, the book sells very well.

Obviously, the dreaded Marvel value stamp has taken its toll on many books too. But those aren't specific to one comic, like this is.

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Basically, any early Silver age Marvel containing a pinup page (ASM 3 is another example), I can see a lot of folks ripping out pages from that Steranko Strange Tales issue with the gorgeous 4-page splash (forgot the issue #).

i can also see how some pages from the all-pinup Marvel Fanfare 45 can go missing, likewise for the Sandman Gallery one shot and the Death Gallery one shot

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18 minutes ago, oldrover said:

Check out the GPA census; it is riddled with Qualified books.

Also Universal 0.5 books... I know... because I missed this on one of my CGC submissions and got it back as a Universal 0.5. Not sure why it didn't come back Qualified.

The 0.5's sell for like $50.

So I cracked it out of the case, popped it up on eBay, and still sold it for over $200.

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1 hour ago, oldrover said:

Also Universal 0.5 books... I know... because I missed this on one of my CGC submissions and got it back as a Universal 0.5. Not sure why it didn't come back Qualified.

The 0.5's sell for like $50.

So I cracked it out of the case, popped it up on eBay, and still sold it for over $200.

smart !!:idea:

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I've also experienced numerous #20's missing the pin-up...seemingly more so than others.... 181 is another big one as stated...

Encountered FF3's with missing pin-ups (I think it has the human torch on it). I'd find it interesting if there's a correlation to missing pages & "cooler" pin-ups...

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I found this chronological list elsewhere on the interwebs of Marvel Silver-Age issues that had pin-ups. 

 

1. Fantastic Four #2, January 1962
Thing Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: ?, Letters: John Duffy

2. Fantastic Four #3, March 1962
Human Torch Pin-Up V-564 - 1p

    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky

3. Fantastic Four #4, May 1962
Mr. Fantastic Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky

4. Fantastic Four #10, January 1963
Invisible Girl Pin-Up - 1p - includes view of Fantasticar's control panel
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

5. Fantastic Four #11, February 1963
Sub-Mariner Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

6. Sgt. Fury #1, May 1963
"Meet the Howling Commandoes" (a two-page splash or pin-up, see Sgt. Fury Annual #1) as pp2-3 of the story
   ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

Weapons of War - 1p - French Revolver M92, Japanese Pistol M25, Russian Nagant 

Revolver, German Mauser Pistol M98, British Navy Webley Pistol M1913 and Austrian Steyr Pistol M11 - on page 24
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

7. Fantastic Four #15, June 1963
Fantastic Four Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

8. Spider-Man #3, July 1963
Spider-Man Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko

8.a. Spider-Man Promotional Pin-Up - 1p
    Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko

9. Fantastic Four #16, July 1963
Fantastic Four Feature Page: Mr. Fantastic - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

10. Sgt. Fury #2, July 1963 [published 2 May 63]
Weapons of War: Chatter Guns of World War II X-300 - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

11. Fantastic Four Annual #1, 1963
Gallery of Foes: Mole Man, Skrulls, Miracle Man, Sub-Mariner - 4pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky, Letters: Ray Halloway

Questions and Answers About the Fantastic Four - 2pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky, Letters: Art Simek 

Inside the Baxter Bldg. - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky, Letters: Art Simek 

Gallery of Foes: Dr. Doom, Kurrgo, Puppet Master - 3pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky and Ayers, 

Letters: Ray Halloway and Art Simek

12. Sgt. Fury #3, September 1963
Weapons of War: "America's World War II Shopping List!" X-396 - 1p
    Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers 

13. Avengers #2, November 1963
Next Issue House Ad - 1p (Sub-Mariner & Avengers pin-up like)
    ?---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Paul Reinman, Letters: Art Simek

14. Sgt. Fury #4, November 1963
Weapons of War: Combat Rifles of World War II -- - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: George Roussos

15. Sgt. Fury #5, January 1964
Weapons of War: Light Machine Guns of World War II X-537 - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: George Roussos

15.a. Tales of Suspense #55
**To add: Pepper Potts' Pin-Up Page**

16. X-Men #6, July 1964
Cyclops Pin-Up - 1p - on p24
    Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone, Letters: Sam Rosen

17. Marvel Tales Annual #1, 1964
Meet the Gang in the Merry Marvel Bullpen! - 2pp
    Two Pages of Marvel Bullpen Photos

18. Spider-Man Annual #1, 1964
*Some of the villian splash pages from main story would be used elsewhere later as pin-ups.*

"Gallery of Foes" - 14pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Art Simek and Sam Rosen 

"The Secrets of Spider-Man!" - 9pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Sam Rosen 

Spider-Man Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Sam Rosen 

"Peter Parker's Favorite Heel and Heart-Throb" - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Sam Rosen 

"Peter Parker's Classmates" - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Sam Rosen 

"Peter Parker's House" - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters; Sam Rosen 

"Guest Star Page" - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Sam Rosen 

"How Stan Lee and Steve Ditko Create Spider-Man!" - 3pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Art Simek

19. Fantastic Four Annual #2, 1964
Galley of Foes - 6pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky, Letters: Art Simek 

Human Torch, Invisible Girl, Thing, Alicia Masters and Mr. Fantastic Pin-Ups - 5pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone, Letters: ?

20. Journey Into Mystery #110, November 1964
Thor Pin-Up 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone

21. X-Men #8, November 1964
Beast Pin-Up - 1p - on page twenty-four
    Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone, Letters: Sam Rosen

22. Tales to Astonish #62, December 1964
Hulk Pin-Up - 1p
    Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone

23. Fantastic Four #33, December 1964
Sub-Mariner Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone, Letters: Art Simek

24. Sgt. Fury #12, November 1964
Sgt. Fury Pin-Up - 1p - "Wah-Hooo!" - The Ol' Howler Himself ... Nick Fury
    Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Ayers

25. Avengers #10, November 1964
Captain America Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Sol Brodsky

26. Strange Tales #127, December 1964
Human Torch & Thing Pin-Up X-809 - 1p - "It's Clobbering Time!"
    Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Paul Reinman

27. Rawhide Kid #43, December 1964
Rawhide Kid Pin-up (X-823) - 1p - "To You ... from the Kid!"
    Pencils: Jack Kirby

28. Journey Into Mystery #111, December 1964
Loki Pin-Up 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

29. Daredevil #5, December 1964
Daredevil Pin-Up - 1p - Illustraion of Daredevil on a tightrope
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Wally Wood, Inks: Wally Wood

30. Tales to Astonish #63, January 1965
Giant-Man & Wasp Pin-Up - 1p
    Pencils: Carl Burgos, Inks: Chic Stone

31. Two-Gun Kid #73, January 1965
Two-Gun Kid Pin-Up - 1p - "The Kid"
    Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Ayers

32. Fantastic Four #34, January 1965
Fantastic Four (with Dr. Doom) Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone, Letters: Art Simek

33. Spider-Man #20, January 1965
Spider-Man Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko

34. Tales of Suspense #61, January 1965
Iron Man Pin-Up - 1p - The Golden Avenger
    Pencils: Don Heck, Inks: Ayers

35. Avengers #11, December 1964
Kang the Conqueror Pin-Up - 1p - also features Rama-Tut and Dr. Doom
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Don Heck, Inks: Don Heck

36. Strange Tales #128, January 1965
Dr. Strange Pin-Up - 1p
    Pencils: Steve Ditko, Steve Ditko

37. Kid Colt, Outlaw #120, January 1965
Kid Colt Pin-Up - 1p - "Kid Colt in Action!"

38. X-Men #9, January 1965
Marvel Girl Pin-Up - 1p
    Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Chic Stone, Letters: Art Simek and Sam Rosen

39. Spider-Man #21, February 1965
Spider-Man Pin-Up - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko

40. Sgt. Fury #14, January 1965
Weapons of War: B-26 Martin Marauder - 1p
    Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Ayers

41. Spider-Man #23, April 1965
Spider-Man Pin-Up - 1p - this is the pin-up that features Spider-Man with vignettes of supporting characters and past villains
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko

42. Daredevil #7, April 1965
Daredevil Pin-Up - 1p - Sub-Mariner walking away from Daredevil
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Wally Wood, Inks: Wally Wood

43. Sgt. Fury Annual #1, 1965 [published 1 June 65] -- new title
A Re-Introduction To the Howlers! - 2pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Frank Giacoia 

Meet the Howling Commandos - 2pp - from Sgt. Fury #1
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers 

Bird'sEye View of H.Q., Able Co. at Fury's Base in Britain! - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Frank Giacoia 

Plane's-Eye View Of Base Tactical Area, Sub-Pen, Dock and Air-Strip! - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Frank Giacoia 

Combat Arm and Hand Signals - 1p
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Ayers, Inks: Frank Giacoia

44. Journey Into Mystery Annual #1, 1965
Thor: "Thor Bonus Feature" - 2pp - Map of Asgard
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Vince Colletta, Letters: Sam Rosen

45. Spider-Man Annual #2, 1965
Gallery of Foes - 5pp - includes the Circus of Crime, the Scorpion, the Beetle, 

Jonah's Robot and the Crime-Master
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko, Letters: Sam Rosen

46. Marvel Tales #7, March 1967
Spider-Man Pin-Up - 1p - done about the same time as Spider-man nos. 7-8
    Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko 

Thor Pin-Up - 1p - adapted from the cover of Journey Into Mystery #105
    Pencils: Jack Kirby, Inks: Ayers

47. Marvel Collector's Item Classics #10, August 1967
Dr. Strange Pin-Up - 1p - previously unpublished (dating perhaps to the time of  Strange Tales #128)
    Pencils: Steve Ditko, Inks: Steve Ditko

48. Sgt. Fury King-Size Special #3, August 1967
Untitled - 2pp - Pin-Up of 1967 version of the Howling Commandos
    ---script: Gary Friedrich, Pencils: Ayers, Inks: John Tartaglione

49. Avengers King-Size Special #1, September 1967
Preeeesenting: The Unconquerable Hercules! - 1p
    ---script: Roy Thomas, Pencils: Don Heck, Inks: George Roussos 

More Than Meets the Eye! - 2pp - The Avengers Mansion and Warehouse
    ---script: Roy Thomas, Pencils: Don Heck, Inks: George Roussos 

Pulsatin', Panoramic Pulchritudinous Pin-Up Dept. - 1p - Female Avengers Pin-Up page
    ---script: Roy Thomas, Pencils: Don Heck, Inks: George Roussos 

The Original Avengers -- and the New Avengers -- - 1p
    ---script: Roy Thomas, Pencils: Don Heck, Inks: George Roussos

50. Daredevil King-Size Special #1, September 1967
"Inside Daredevil" - 2pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Gene Colan, Inks: John Tartaglione, Letters: Sam Rosen 

"An Explanation" - 2pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Gene Colan, Inks: John Tartaglione, Letters: Sam Rosen 

"A Colorful Collection of DD's Cast of Characters" - 4pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Gene Colan, Inks: John Tartaglione, Letters: Sam Rosen 

"Blueprint For an All-Purpose Billy Club" - 1pp
    ---script: Stan Lee, Pencils: Gene Colan, Inks: John Tartaglione, Letters: Sam Rosen

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ASM 20 and Batman 181 are great examples and the first two that popped into my mind. ASM 238 with the tats ripped out is another big one. 

Three of the last four copies of FF 49 I've bought were incomplete. Maybe just bad luck.

For golden age, any single staple books are prone to missing centerfolds....especially the thicker ones. Ditto with any centerfolds that were tipped in, like Suspense 3. 

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3 hours ago, oldrover said:

Also Universal 0.5 books... I know... because I missed this on one of my CGC submissions and got it back as a Universal 0.5. Not sure why it didn't come back Qualified.

The 0.5's sell for like $50.

So I cracked it out of the case, popped it up on eBay, and still sold it for over $200.

I'm sure you disclosed the defect(s) but the negativity of PLODs and GLODs is amazing.  I think CGC should have one label noting the defects - they could still use the same restored/conserved indicators.  Possibly more potential sellers may submit their books without fear of receiving less money than a raw book as buyers fixate on the green/purple label, though the change to conserved helped some, imo. 

My 2c if even worth that much.

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27 minutes ago, telerites said:

I'm sure you disclosed the defect(s)

Absolutely. In fact, on that book there were a ton. It's just a hot book right now.

Oh, and I goofed again on this book... sent an ASM20 off for slabbing after making SURE the poster was there.

Came back today as a 7.0... Qualified! WTH?!??!

Well... it still has the poster... but it's missing the third page. LOL

I was focused so much on the poster, I missed a whole 'nuther page out. D'oh!

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P.S. The other ASM 20 came back Universal 7.5. Whew. :)

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Batman #1 often has the back cover missing due to the pin up.

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I believe Suspense Comics #3 often has the centerfold missing. [This is a replica]

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